papashango

Are you guys running either radar detectors, laser jammers or both at all? I am interested in getting one for my car and trying to do some research as to which brand and model to go with. I would like to have a combination of both in one unit and I hate the idea of having them mounted on my windshield.

So I am interested in getting it installed so that it's all wired up within the car and nothing is visible on the outside. Do any of you guys have that set up at all? What were the costs involved including parts and installation?

Please recommend some brands and models and elaborate on the way they work etc if possible. Thanks a lot in advance!

izzy63

The passport 9500ix is the one I'm using and its quite accurate also has a 360 bubble so when CHP tags me in the back the radar goes off as well.

kiwicls320cdi

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ecohen2

I have the original Passport 9500 and just drove from DC to Chicago and back with it. I have never had a ticket with it. If you look around online there are plenty of reviews of the different types of radar detectors. If I am not mistaken, Valentine is still way ahead of everyone else, but you pay up for it in a big way. The Passport is considerably cheaper, smaller and is more than adequate if you are going 10-15 mph over the limit.

N979Q

I have a valentine V1 with concealed display in my ashtray. I wired it all up so no wires are showing.

MagasC63

Valentine one is the best radar. I also have the passport 9500 which is good but I still prefer valentine one. The nice thing about the passport 9500 is that you can update it regularly to help you. Even with that being said, valentine one is my favorite. Either way neither one will help you with lazer. You will need a lazer diffuser and/or lazer blocker. Unfortunately, the lazer diffuser is illegal so I would stay away from that.

AMG893

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w204nyc

I have the passport 9500ix and i'm not pleased
With it. I got two tickets with it. One was a laser and the other was a K-band that went off too late. Mine performs nothing close to the ones on youtube. It is more attractive that the valentine but thats about it. As far as the updates, you have to pay for it. I think its either 1 or 3 years. I had the 3 year subscription and everything was fine until mine stopped connecting to my laptop. Did some research and there are hundreds of problems with it not connecting. Contacted Passport and they said nothing they can do unless I send them my radar and they will try to fix it for $200. So i'm stuck with an out of date radar. Thats why i chose to go with the valentine. Dont waste your money on a passport!

chrisridebike8

Valentine One. Hands down. With Ka-Guard off, it's unbeatable. Keep in mind you still need some Laser Interceptors to give you LIDAR protection. Here's my setup.

ddcha

I have a V-1. Love it but have had a couple of close calls. How do you turn the Ka-guard off and what does that do?

Guilty

Valentine One + Laser Interceptor Quad. )))

chrisridebike8

Ka-guard basically requires a longer initial "hit" of radar before it gives you an alert. Once that threshold has been crossed, any hit from the same radar will give an alert, no longer needing that long hit. Here's a video (watch until about 3:00) that demos Ka-guard


Here (start at 3:30) shows you Ka response with Ka-guard off.


Here is how you turn it off. Just watch the first 2 min to see how to get into programming mode. Then see the bottom link I provided for the programming list. Be advised that this will also make your V1 not filter out those pesky cobra radar detectors (when your V1 makes the "J").


Programming list:
http://www.valentine1.com/v1info/pdf...-REVforPDF.pdf

My setup:
POP on
Ka-guard off
X-band off (region dependent)

ddcha

Very helpful! thank you!

Nanook

Below are links to my installs..detector and jammers I did...I run a 9500ix wit Blinder HP-905...I have used several other systems detector/jammers in the past and also currently use..V1..with Laser Interceptor on my ZR1...if you want a concealed system go with a Bel STi-R detector which is built in or Escort 9500ci which with Mid City Engineering http://www.midcityengineering.com/radar-interfaces can be integrated into the Mercedes Canbus...(actual dash alerts) along with a jammer either Blinder hp-905 or Laser Interceptor.
I like the 9500ix becuase it uses GPS as does the two built in I recommended so it memorizes falsing locations and locks them out after 4 exposures.They also prompt for red light camera locations (upgradable from online database) and are fairly sensitive to parked speed camera operations. The V1 is a great detector but lacks current technology and falses frequently...although it has very good highway sensitivity it has nothing over the two built in units I suggested as they offer larger antenna horns but it's primary nicety is the patented arrows that display the position of the radar source...the falsing will almost certainly wear on the user and the newer GPS optioned units will provide a much more satisfying use.

https://mbworld.org/forums/new-m-cla...tall-pics.html

https://mbworld.org/forums/new-m-cla...tall-here.html

Valvestud

I echo ypur observations. I was a V1 customer for many years. Moved to 9500ix to get stationary trap warnings via GPS, which Valentine refuses to add to their units. The radar/Lidar protection is not nearly as good as the V1, especially in terms of distance warning.

Joe

Nanook

The performance of radar/laser detectors to lidar (laser) is mostly misconceived..these units offer no protection to lidar for the simple fact that once laser is alerted you are toast. The characteristics of the lidar beam is so small and condensed that there is little to no diffraction like radar beams so in the case of radar you will usually receive radar energy coming to you from vehicles being targeted up the road this is not the case with lidar...therefore when the detector alerts to lidar you have been zero'd in on and the leo has an immediate response to your speed (unless you have a jamming system).
Therefore if you think having a detector offers protection to lidar you are sadly mistaken.

chrisridebike8

True...but also false. I have had the V1 pick up scatter a few seconds before being lasered. V1 alerted to LIDAR, I slowed down, signal eventually stopped, then a few seconds later I am able to see the cop and V1 AND Blinder M-20 (years ago) alert to LIDAR. This has happened to me maybe twice in 10 years. So in general, you are correct. But every little bit helps. Plus if you run a Laser Interceptor, it's nice to know when the LEO has stopped Lasing you.

Nanook

Okay I meant to say "offer little protection to lidar"..as to your last sentence the Laser Interceptor as Blinder and most jammers advise/alert to receiving a hit (some actually identify the gun make and have a vocal alert stating such) therefore you don't need a detector to know when you've been/are lasered..the Blinder has an optional jamming time in secs and then turns off..giving you the time to slow and the Leo to access your diminished speed..the LI you must physically turn off then slow..and finally the Blinder has a programable option to provide continuous jamming upon lidar receipt.

chrisridebike8

Very true. I prefer to do it myself though. The faster you are going, the more time you need to jam. You never want to jam longer than needed since LEOs can get suspicious if you do. I'd hate to not have slowed down fully and have the jamming stop when I wasn't ready. And once the jammer is off, I want to know how much longer the LEO is shooting me.

Nanook

Some additional input:
Lidar technology has become a jousting match between the detection hardware companies and the jammer anti measure guys.
The newest entity is that of guns such as the DragonEye, Laser Ally...and DALA systems and the like that now can offer on/off jamming to confuse the jammers.
This technology has left the big guys in the jammer industry reeling to play catch up..even until not long ago these guys could not be detected..then after some time they can now be detected but few offer reliable jamming capabilities and although the cost for police departments to change equipment to these new devices they will eventually find their way into the forces.
Therefore it is important to keep in mind when an investment is made into a jammer that it is with one of the "big guys" that have a vested interest in maintaining the algorithms needed to thwart these new monsters.
I suggest only considering Laser interceptor, Blinder hp-905 or Antilaser G9 when making this investment and the best advice..don't speed but if you must ...don't get caught

izzy63

I thought K-Band wasn't a police signal but doors opening or some sort of interference

Nanook

K-band is widely used by police...and could be the same general frequency used by door devices which is why one cannot tune it out...and why the 9500ix ( and other GPS enabled units) can filter out..with 4 encounters at the same location (this is where GPS comes to play knowing where you are)it then locks out future alerts at that location..(or you can immediately lock out a location manually)..

zibby43

9500ix here as well. Won't use anything else.

I've used it for years. Never been pulled over (knock on wood).

Tried the V1 for a few weeks. Thought the arrows were gimmicky. Also too many false alarms.

Escort has had GPS technology in their detectors for years. V1 is just catching on in that regard.

AlsAMG

I've used the V1 for over 10 years and not a single ticket. I had to send it in once because it froze. They fixed it free of charge after 8 years of use and I'm still using it. I heard the Escort Redline is pretty good. Anyone have experience with that?