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Old 04-21-2014, 08:21 PM
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Nice mod list. The roof is it vorsteiner ?
Thanks brother !

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Thanks brother !
Yea I am friend with your bro in law, let me know when you go in Mexico to run that guy with M5 E60 I want rematch since I was not 100% lol I in box you! Let me know when you in area wanna see that c63 lol
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Fanboys went quiet I see, what's the matter?

Can't stand the sight of a FBO M5 hanging on with a modded Z06? Not even a stock one I must add!
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Hello Mr. Fan Boy told you id be back with some runs !

FBO M5 Evolve Alpha-N Stage 3
OEM Catless Headers
RPI GTS Full Exhaust
RPI Intake scoops with oiled filters
Underdrive pulley
RPI Oil Cooler
ESS SMG Software
MAF Delete with evolve alpha-n tune revving to 8600rpm


Runs from 45mph all the way to over 180 mph so full top end runs that the s85 v10 excels at


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Fanboys went quiet I see, what's the matter?

Can't stand the sight of a FBO M5 hanging on with a modded Z06? Not even a stock one I must add!


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Old 07-07-2014, 07:15 PM
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Please do, iit's an honor to be proven wrong for the first time!


Hey theres a first time for everything
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Please do, iit's an honor to be proven wrong for the first time!
You just proved yourself wrong again
Because it can be said with 100% certainty you've been wrong before
Unless you were born the day before your post which is a distinct possibilty judging from the immaturity of the post lol
And I've been wrong before...but not this time
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Originally Posted by Ezec63
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Hello Mr. Fan Boy told you id be back with some runs !

FBO M5 Evolve Alpha-N Stage 3
OEM Catless Headers
RPI GTS Full Exhaust
RPI Intake scoops with oiled filters
Underdrive pulley
RPI Oil Cooler
ESS SMG Software
MAF Delete with evolve alpha-n tune revving to 8600rpm


Runs from 45mph all the way to over 180 mph so full top end runs that the s85 v10 excels at


C63 vs m5 - YouTube
what mods on the c63? seems like the benz pulls it pretty easily?
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I'm not sure why people think there is a big difference between stock cars
M has 10% more hp
AMG 15% more torque and is 5-10% lighter

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Originally Posted by avery.whss
what mods on the c63? seems like the benz pulls it pretty easily?


EC Off the shelf Tune (Soon to be custom OE)
MBH Headers with catless x pipe
AP Exhaust
Evosport UD Pulley
CF Intakes
Renntech Throttle bodies
Weistec Valve body and TCU Tune


Those are my power mods also have other supporting mods for cooling/general better car but don't make a difference on a roll race


Def not an easy pull the m5 is a beast and FBO with SMG that also had ess trans software. They pull great uptop that's why we went all the way to almost 185 they thought theyd pull me back in but didn't happen. Next time I want a dig race
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Originally Posted by Ezec63
EC Off the shelf Tune (Soon to be custom OE)
MBH Headers with catless x pipe
AP Exhaust
Evosport UD Pulley
CF Intakes
Renntech Throttle bodies
Weistec Valve body and TCU Tune


Those are my power mods also have other supporting mods for cooling/general better car but don't make a difference on a roll race


Def not an easy pull the m5 is a beast and FBO with SMG that also had ess trans software. They pull great uptop that's why we went all the way to almost 185 they thought theyd pull me back in but didn't happen. Next time I want a dig race
you aren't even running a header tune? Those throttle bodies aren't cheap

pretty solid run though car sounds amazing
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Originally Posted by avery.whss
you aren't even running a header tune? Those throttle bodies aren't cheap

pretty solid run though car sounds amazing




Off the shelf headers tune but EC is known to be less aggressive so im switching to OE. I also need a custom tune because its just a general headers tune and doesn't take into account my Intake, Throttle bodies, and full exhaust.


I got the RT Throttle bodies for a steal off shop owners buddy they were on a e63 for only 3K miles. Thanks brother ! Go pro footage didn't come out good so had to settle for this iphone footage. Don't see these twocars this highly modded running against each other much

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Nice runs guys . C63s a beast. Top end monster
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Nice runs guys . C63s a beast. Top end monster
Thanks Hagi !!! Def felt good to beat the m5 at its own game top end roll pulls. Next time we do rolls and digs ! C63 offers the best of both worlds enough torque to launch out of the hole and top end pull to pull v10
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The AMG has almost as much torque at peak HP as the M does PEAK!
At peak HP:
AMG 350 lb ft
M 260 lb ft
Big delta 35%
And that is the standard 451 hp engine
507 has 391 lb ft at 6800 rpm
That is > than the M's peak torque

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Well, I think I can add some good inputs here since I currently own both vehicles.

I have a 2006 M5 slightly modded and a 2009 C63 slightly modded as well. Both have tunes, both have some exhaust work and both have CAI kits and also all necessary maintanence.

Plain and simple - the M5 is faster. Sorry dudes, I hope I dont get thrown into the fire. Yes, the Merc has more tq, but believe it or not, my 63 is heavier...I took them both to a truck stop scale and the Merc was roughly 68lbs heavier.

Additionally, I think the gearing in the M5 is better. Funny thing is, after all these years, I never taken them to the track to confirm, but I have done many runs to Mexico and back, and the M comes on top.

I like both cars for what they are, however, the M5 is much more polished and more balanced car vs the C63. Then again, C63 is not a direct comparison even if they can make equal power levels once your tweak the ECU and add a few "go fast" goodies. The E63 is a better comparison vs the M5. At the end of my purchasing search, I finally decided to go with the C63 because I liked the size and the engine sound over the E63.

However, the E63 is much more luxurious and better looking interior wise...but it felt big. The M5 is not a small car, but it felt much more nimble and tighter vs the E63...the C63 ride quality takes getting used to. From a financial perspective and after putting together my driving impressions, I decided to move forward with the C63 - no regrets!
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Originally Posted by Ezec63
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Hello Mr. Fan Boy told you id be back with some runs !

FBO M5 Evolve Alpha-N Stage 3
OEM Catless Headers
RPI GTS Full Exhaust
RPI Intake scoops with oiled filters
Underdrive pulley
RPI Oil Cooler
ESS SMG Software
MAF Delete with evolve alpha-n tune revving to 8600rpm


Runs from 45mph all the way to over 180 mph so full top end runs that the s85 v10 excels at


C63 vs m5 - YouTube
I'm confused ... is this M5 FBO or does it run OEM headers? If it is FBO, than it should have full length tubular headers. Big difference ... but you know that ... that's why you run them on your car
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Very good runs last night both cars were very fast but c63 was excellent on top end at 180mph and m5 e60 they know to be monsters at those speeds but I guess I just find out that I have a monster in my garage as well,excellent race both of you guys,glad that c63 took the trophy home
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I'm confused ... is this M5 FBO or does it run OEM headers? If it is FBO, than it should have full length tubular headers. Big difference ... but you know that ... that's why you run them on your car
stop making excuses buddy your fan boyism got called out and proven wrong. The OEM headers on the s85 are probably the best stock headers I've ever seen and are gutted for a cat less headers. The c63 doesn't have headers they are a log manifold so big difference but I'm sure you knew that . I was on a eurocharged off the shelf map for just headers I will be getting custom tuned from OE for my intake,exhaust, throttle bodies my power isn't being maximized I still have some left on the table. He will change to evolve intakes and headers don't worry ill prove you wrong again if you promise to go hide in your hole after that video. He also runs withouts MAF's in his car that let him rev out higher and its a beast with evolves alpha-N software. The owner was very cool made no excuses and shook my hand so he doesn't need you to stand up for him LOL

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Old 07-08-2014, 03:19 AM
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Originally Posted by HardC63
Well, I think I can add some good inputs here since I currently own both vehicles.

I have a 2006 M5 slightly modded and a 2009 C63 slightly modded as well. Both have tunes, both have some exhaust work and both have CAI kits and also all necessary maintanence.

Plain and simple - the M5 is faster. Sorry dudes, I hope I dont get thrown into the fire. Yes, the Merc has more tq, but believe it or not, my 63 is heavier...I took them both to a truck stop scale and the Merc was roughly 68lbs heavier.

Additionally, I think the gearing in the M5 is better. Funny thing is, after all these years, I never taken them to the track to confirm, but I have done many runs to Mexico and back, and the M comes on top.

I like both cars for what they are, however, the M5 is much more polished and more balanced car vs the C63. Then again, C63 is not a direct comparison even if they can make equal power levels once your tweak the ECU and add a few "go fast" goodies. The E63 is a better comparison vs the M5. At the end of my purchasing search, I finally decided to go with the C63 because I liked the size and the engine sound over the E63.

However, the E63 is much more luxurious and better looking interior wise...but it felt big. The M5 is not a small car, but it felt much more nimble and tighter vs the E63...the C63 ride quality takes getting used to. From a financial perspective and after putting together my driving impressions, I decided to move forward with the C63 - no regrets!
Were not talking about slightly modded here were talking FBO cars the c63 NEEDS longs tubes while the m5 won't gain anywhere near as much with long tubes. The videos don't lie these runs were to 185 MPH LOL what more gearing do you need?? M took the hit on the runs as well he couldn't hear my honks. Simple as this let the video do the talking.

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I'm confused ... is this M5 FBO or does it run OEM headers? If it is FBO, than it should have full length tubular headers. Big difference ... but you know that ... that's why you run them on your car
Maybe ill run from a Dig next time and show ya what torque can do LOL these are the m5's type of run 45-185 top end. If we play my game from a dig I'm sure you know what torque does
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I can see that this M5 have a modified oem headers which gives 25 whp and mine is AP headers which gives 40hp

Rolling is too low that is for C63 side since it has more TQ

45 is the best rolling for the C63
Give the M5 a chance and roll in 75

Lets see the results
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Here is my race with my freind M6 rolling 75 the only difference between us that he have Oem modified headers



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