Bazman

I've had my eyes on them, but likely will wait till the 1st version has its bugs ironed out... cool looking car. Won't get out of AMG to get one though

odonnks

I swore up and down over the years that I'd not buy a Corvette but if a AWD mid engine ZR1 is produced I'll be eating crow... That would flip my switch.

mainly

too cartoon ish. looks like a concept. thats not a compliment.

i saw the new stingray running at the drag strip the other day. tackiest looking car i ever saw. way over designed. slow as s-h-i-t, too. i dont think either of them could break into the 12's.

HardC63

Looks is very subjective. I am not crazy for the Stingray look either, but I am digging the C7Z06. The same case was for me when the C6 was released...I didn't care for the base C6, but was all over the C6Z06.


As far the Stingray being slow...that's my friend is all driving. Those cars are not slow. In fact, there are many of them running mid 9's with simple bolt-ons plus heads/cam/small shot (125hp) and tires. There are also many of them are running high 10's to looow 11's with just bolt-ons and tires. Again, its all about the individual in the driver's seat.


To your point though, I remember back in the day seeing stock C6Z's running mid to low 12's...but I knew it was all driving skills related. Because I also seem them run mid to low 11's STOCK!

glennhl

Excellent, well thought out, objective, and smart response!

mainly

thats modded. im not talking about modded, im talking about stock, the way it comes from the factory.

and if 9 out of 10 people are slow in the z06 but as a response you just keep chalking it up to "the driver", thats just a copout. if its truely a great road car you wouldnt need to be a professional driver to get decent performance from it.

thats always the excuse that has to be made for the corvette ... oh it was the "Driver"...

give me a break. a car you always have to make excuses for isnt much of a car.

glennhl

Traded my 2006 Vette for my 2011 C63. Both are great cars, just needed a 4 door. And I ran 12 flats in my 2006 Vette at 1250 feet of altitude, it was a very easy car to run in the 1/4 mile.

Looking at Corvette Forum, here are the 5 fastest STOCK Stingray Corvettes:

Bone-Stock on Stock Tires
==================
Rank~~ E.T.~~ Trap~ 60'~ Driver~~~~~ M.Yr. Details
1~~~~11.496~~118.96~~1.683~SNORMAN~~~~'14 A6 (Post#4)
2~~~~11.617~~120.17~~1.738~VNAMVET~~~~'14 A6 Z51 Timeslip in sig, (Post#21)
3~~~~11.743~~119.05~~1.745~jrwood~~~~~~'14 A6 non-z51, with NPP, Used launch control (Post# 84)
4~~~~11.940~~116.00~~1.790~Fore58~~~~~~'14 A6 Non Z51 track mode and traction control off, Convertible (Post#97)
5~~~~11.955~~119.62~~1.919~Kyle Lemish~~~'14 M7 non Z51 and no NPP (Post#13)

Ingenieur

The base vette is faster than the m4 and 911S around the track
7 sec around VIR
6 sec on the 911S and by 4 on a 2011 911 turbo S and a 2009 gtr
In fact faster than the old z06 by 5 sec
And the R8 V10 plus by 4
And 5 sec faster than a 2013 m5

Hardly slow

mainly

its easy to quote stats on the internet, but that doesnt mean you know everything associated with those stats.

especially when it comes to american cars and their reported performance stats - there always over exaggerated compared to what real world end users achieve.

i giving real world first hand observations of corvettes that i saw run at the drag strip and theyre in a word, unimpressive. im not talking about 1 run from 1 corvette, im talking about multiple consecutive runs with multiple drivers.

Ingenieur

All done at the same time
Same track
Same driver
It is expected to get below 7:30 at the Ring which will make it 25 sec faster than the m4

Just because the numbers do not support your contention does not render them invalid

I know you are canadian but please capitalize American
Thanks

I gave you documented and published numbers
You offer hear say, I mean who are you? Why should you be believed over magazines? Really? Lol

The car is not 'slow as crap' as you asserted, hardly true nor accurate
That is hogwash

Ingenieur

Jeez
The base price for the vette is only 54k
That is 1/3 the r8 or 911 turbo
1/2 the 991s
This car has come a long way
The z06 is going to be a monster
And the zr1 a world beater

mainly

were you there? if not it means nothing. once again. im telling what i saw with my own eyes. no, you dont have to believe it.

as if that changes the meaning? but please leave grammar out of it.

documented and published eh? yeah, so is the bible.

mainly

yep, and you get what you pay for.

Ingenieur

It means nothing and I don't believe you for good reason
You are not objective

It's not about grammer, but respect

Yes it makes it 'true', I prefer factual

No need to ridicule Christians, that is lower than low
What kind of person are you? No one mentioned religion except you
What I or others have faith in does not have diddly to do with your BS
The vette is not 'slow as crap'
You smell of desperation
Man up, you are wrong, on multiple levels, own it

Ingenieur

Obviously not in the case of your education

It's called 'value', more bang for the buck
In your case what you over paid for
It's slower than a 54k car

mainly

ok, i "respected" you more when i thought it was about grammar. respect is earned. always.



lol, i can see we are 2 people that just should not be arguing...

yourself, a patriotic, respect demanding, religious american, on a mercedes forum singing praises of the all mighty "corvette"

then me, someone who merely tells it like it is, and goes on my own observations, not just singling out a few random published figures.(not that they are necessarily bogus figures)

and by the way, i didnt mean to single out christians, ALL religion is nonsense. i could have said the quran but i didnt feel like being vulgar. i just picked one of the (im sure there are many) "books of fairy tales" that the earth is plagued by.

mainly

so its ok to ridicule someone education, but not their religion?

really? which one?

btw ive decided to bypass your insults. it would be too easy.

Ingenieur

Well you have never earned any

Who said I was religious? I said you are a horses *** for ridiculing people that are. Who are you to judge? You aren't very bright are you?

You claim you are your own man, lol, as far as I can tell you ain't even a man, let alone one who stands on their own

Those random figures carry more credibility than you ever will
I wasn't around when calculus was developed, read about it in a book, and yepper, I believe it to be true

I know your type, got it all figured out, faith is for the stupid correct?
Smarter than everyone who doesn't align with your misguided thought process.
Book of fairy tales?
The Earth is 'plagued' by pompous, self righteous ding bats like you
Usually wrong but never in doubt lol
I'm glad there are people (using the term loosely) like you
Makes it easier for the rest of us to look smart lol

mainly

oh dont worry, youve made the level of your brilliance more than evident to all.

Ingenieur

You just changed your cars
What a clown
Got rid of the f10 m5 already?
Like the 2008 m5?
How old are you, 14?

Ingenieur

As you did your lack there of

mainly

yes i just updated them in my profile. something wrong with that?

yes, had it for 2 years. great car.

ill hand it to you, youre the uncrowned king of personal attacks.

Ingenieur

BS

BS

Asking your age is a personal attack? You come across as immature
But nice redirection, you didn't answer
Compared to saying religious people are dumb and believe in fairy tales?
You are a real piece of work lol

mainly

care to explain why its bs?

when done sarcastically as you did, yes.

unless you believe a 14 year old can afford a cls63 and 991 Gt3???

its not them but their beliefs that are dumb. theres a difference.

Ingenieur

If I have to explain you won't understand

You can divine sarcasm over wires and digital bits?
No wonder you don't believe in a God, you ARE god lol
Well, no sarcasm, how old are you?

Maybe a 14 year olds daddy?


You demean people of faith, you are better than them, they believe in fairy tales

You know zilch about cars

The vette is not slow

My work is done here