Mods for better times/hp
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Mods for better times/hp
I own a 2011 c63 p31 pre-facelift
Looking to mod my car but want to spend the money in ONLY the smartest ways for times durability and handling.
So far I know I need the basics like intake system/filters headers better exhaust flow etc. One of the biggest things to me is upgrading the slushbox because this transmission is laggy and a shift is disappointing considering the m3 or isf shift. It would be nice to keep my warranty but really in the end I take very good care of my car and highly doubt I'll be the cause of any problems
Looking to mod my car but want to spend the money in ONLY the smartest ways for times durability and handling.
So far I know I need the basics like intake system/filters headers better exhaust flow etc. One of the biggest things to me is upgrading the slushbox because this transmission is laggy and a shift is disappointing considering the m3 or isf shift. It would be nice to keep my warranty but really in the end I take very good care of my car and highly doubt I'll be the cause of any problems
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A tune will help some. https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w...held-sale.html
Also if you get used to when the car needs to shift (rpm), you won't run into the problem really at all.
Also if you get used to when the car needs to shift (rpm), you won't run into the problem really at all.
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I own a 2011 c63 p31 pre-facelift
Looking to mod my car but want to spend the money in ONLY the smartest ways for times durability and handling.
So far I know I need the basics like intake system/filters headers better exhaust flow etc. One of the biggest things to me is upgrading the slushbox because this transmission is laggy and a shift is disappointing considering the m3 or isf shift. It would be nice to keep my warranty but really in the end I take very good care of my car and highly doubt I'll be the cause of any problems
Looking to mod my car but want to spend the money in ONLY the smartest ways for times durability and handling.
So far I know I need the basics like intake system/filters headers better exhaust flow etc. One of the biggest things to me is upgrading the slushbox because this transmission is laggy and a shift is disappointing considering the m3 or isf shift. It would be nice to keep my warranty but really in the end I take very good care of my car and highly doubt I'll be the cause of any problems
I want a car that does 360 km/h, has a walk-in shower and a media room with a 110' screen, and is able to fly over the Atlantic in 2.5 hours. Oh, I also want it to last for 15 years, I don't want to pay more than $420 and I don't want to have to do any repairs.
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I would just do the ROW and EurochargedV5 if warranty is a concern. The LTH is easily detected and not emissions friendly.
If warranty is not an issue add in the LTH.
The trans.well..nothing simple comes to mind except for having the driver adjust his style.
If warranty is not an issue add in the LTH.
The trans.well..nothing simple comes to mind except for having the driver adjust his style.
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If warranty is a concern I certainly wouldn't do the Eurocharged - or for that matter anyone elese's - tune. You can change the airboxes without leaving a trace (although there's no reason why you would as the OEM airboxes are far from being a bottleneck on the C63 if it's otherwise unmodified), which is not the case with a tune.
As for the transmission - I would just do another car that's not a pre-FL C63. Buying a Ferrari is (a lot) chaper than starting with a Toyota and modifying it bit by bit until you end up with a Ferrari.
As for the transmission - I would just do another car that's not a pre-FL C63. Buying a Ferrari is (a lot) chaper than starting with a Toyota and modifying it bit by bit until you end up with a Ferrari.
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Not exactly. Reversible from the standpoint of you going back to using the OEM tune should you ever want to - sure. Reversible from the standpoint of the shop not being able to detect you've had an aftermarket tune in the past - NOPE! And seeeing as we're taling about warranty, if your engine expires under warranty and Merceders is looking at a $25K repair bill, you can bet your a$$ the ECU code will be sent to Germany for analysis, where they can most certianly tell if youe EVER mucked with it.
Any tuner that is telling you that it CAN'T be found - if MB wants to look for it - is lying to you.
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Not exactly. Reversible from the standpoint of you going back to using the OEM tune should you ever want to - sure. Reversible from the standpoint of the shop not being able to detect you've had an aftermarket tune in the past - NOPE! And seeeing as we're taling about warranty, if your engine expires under warranty and Merceders is looking at a $25K repair bill, you can bet your a$$ the ECU code will be sent to Germany for analysis, where they can most certianly tell if youe EVER mucked with it.
Any tuner that is telling you that it CAN'T be found - if MB wants to look for it - is lying to you.
Any tuner that is telling you that it CAN'T be found - if MB wants to look for it - is lying to you.
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You assume incorrectly. They will send the ECU data to Germany from the states. And depending on how good the dealer is they can sometimes dig and find stuff themselves.
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Not exactly. Reversible from the standpoint of you going back to using the OEM tune should you ever want to - sure. Reversible from the standpoint of the shop not being able to detect you've had an aftermarket tune in the past - NOPE! And seeeing as we're taling about warranty, if your engine expires under warranty and Merceders is looking at a $25K repair bill, you can bet your a$$ the ECU code will be sent to Germany for analysis, where they can most certianly tell if youe EVER mucked with it.
Any tuner that is telling you that it CAN'T be found - if MB wants to look for it - is lying to you.
Any tuner that is telling you that it CAN'T be found - if MB wants to look for it - is lying to you.
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So this is why my car is still BONE stock.....possibly incorrect assumptions.
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Whether a third party insurer would do it or not - especially on a car and engine that is no longer being made - is a diferent question altogether, and I suspect would at least partially depend on what the policy says about modding the car and the amount of money they're on the hook for. If their maximum liability is, say, $5K per repair, it's likely not worth it for them to pay MB $1K to dig around looking for something that may or may not be there - but then again, $5K isn't nearly enough to cover a new motor if you need one either.
I can't put it any better than in the immortal words of my P-car mechanic who said "unless you are prepared to write it off, don't f**k with it". Truer words were never spoken.
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You should be fine then, as long as the car doesn't make it's way to an MB dealer.
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Diabolis is right.
If you''re making a claim that has to do with the engine, MB will check the PCM to see if it's been flashed before. Even if you put it back to stock they'll know it's been flashed and then flashed again. The only people that should be flashing the PCM is a dealership and there's a record of it every time someone flashes it. If they see it's been flashed but with no record of a dealership doing it, that'll raises some huge flags. So, it really depends how much you want the tune because it COULD void your warranty.
A lot of people with the Hyundai Genesis turbo get their cars tuned because they make some pretty good power afterwards but they go as far as selling the whole replacement PCM computer. So basically you take the stock one out and keep it and if you need to go to the dealer for warranty then you'll put it back in.
If you''re making a claim that has to do with the engine, MB will check the PCM to see if it's been flashed before. Even if you put it back to stock they'll know it's been flashed and then flashed again. The only people that should be flashing the PCM is a dealership and there's a record of it every time someone flashes it. If they see it's been flashed but with no record of a dealership doing it, that'll raises some huge flags. So, it really depends how much you want the tune because it COULD void your warranty.
A lot of people with the Hyundai Genesis turbo get their cars tuned because they make some pretty good power afterwards but they go as far as selling the whole replacement PCM computer. So basically you take the stock one out and keep it and if you need to go to the dealer for warranty then you'll put it back in.
Not exactly. Reversible from the standpoint of you going back to using the OEM tune should you ever want to - sure. Reversible from the standpoint of the shop not being able to detect you've had an aftermarket tune in the past - NOPE! And seeeing as we're taling about warranty, if your engine expires under warranty and Merceders is looking at a $25K repair bill, you can bet your a$$ the ECU code will be sent to Germany for analysis, where they can most certianly tell if youe EVER mucked with it.
Any tuner that is telling you that it CAN'T be found - if MB wants to look for it - is lying to you.
Any tuner that is telling you that it CAN'T be found - if MB wants to look for it - is lying to you.
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A lot of people with the Hyundai Genesis turbo get their cars tuned because they make some pretty good power afterwards but they go as far as selling the whole replacement PCM computer. So basically you take the stock one out and keep it and if you need to go to the dealer for warranty then you'll put it back in.
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That's why you keep the stock pcm and use the one where you tuned it with. When you go back for warranty work, you'll install the stock one and leave the other one at home
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if your really that worried buy a ecu send it to weistec and get it cloned
plug your clone ECU in and get that tuned and if you ever need to return it to stock plug up your old ecu
plug your clone ECU in and get that tuned and if you ever need to return it to stock plug up your old ecu
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LOL, a tune is fine, and easily flashed back to stock. I highly doubt anyone will have any engine trouble within 4 yrs of ownership, especially if the car is barely driven. *Knocks on wood*
You people worry too much..
You people worry too much..
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I own a 2011 c63 p31 pre-facelift
Looking to mod my car but want to spend the money in ONLY the smartest ways for times durability and handling.
So far I know I need the basics like intake system/filters headers better exhaust flow etc. One of the biggest things to me is upgrading the slushbox because this transmission is laggy and a shift is disappointing considering the m3 or isf shift. It would be nice to keep my warranty but really in the end I take very good care of my car and highly doubt I'll be the cause of any problems
Looking to mod my car but want to spend the money in ONLY the smartest ways for times durability and handling.
So far I know I need the basics like intake system/filters headers better exhaust flow etc. One of the biggest things to me is upgrading the slushbox because this transmission is laggy and a shift is disappointing considering the m3 or isf shift. It would be nice to keep my warranty but really in the end I take very good care of my car and highly doubt I'll be the cause of any problems
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I SOOOO agree!!! Anyone who is scared of warranty what ifs should either be satisfied with box stock performance OR find deeper pockets and purchase a vehicle which is more box stock capable.....GT-R comes to mind.....only other option left is to rub some stank on what you got, mod the **** out of it and hope that nothing goes wrong and if it does that the mfg stands behind you....but at the end of the day I DO still like that quote about "be willing to write it off" .....that is indeed the nature of the quest for pinnacle performance
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One important thing to remember: If a manufacturer tries to deny a warranty claim on a component of the car that has been modified (and subsequently damaged), it must show that the aftermarket modification is the direct cause of the component's failure.
Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act (U.S. federal statute; 15 U.S.C. § 2301 et seq.).
Aftermarket modifications that improve performance do not automatically void a vehicle manufacturer's original warranty, unless the warranty clearly states the addition of aftermarket equipment automatically voids the vehicle's warranty. Short of that, the manufacturer must prove that the aftermarket modification/equipment is the direct cause of the component failure.
Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act (U.S. federal statute; 15 U.S.C. § 2301 et seq.).
Aftermarket modifications that improve performance do not automatically void a vehicle manufacturer's original warranty, unless the warranty clearly states the addition of aftermarket equipment automatically voids the vehicle's warranty. Short of that, the manufacturer must prove that the aftermarket modification/equipment is the direct cause of the component failure.