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Old Nov 5, 2015 | 03:39 PM
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I have never heard of anyone rebuilding a trans on a High performance car with out upgrading clutches which in most cases are cheaper than the oem parts. I didn't think I had to be so literal to say race can up grade clutches.
It doensn't matter what anyone thinks about bolting it, you kept bringing it up like is was a fault on the company and it is not. Even weistic does not just do it, it is a recommended purchase base on facts that slipping occurs when pushing the car in straight line pulls through all gears with out lifting.
There is no performance clutch for this transmission except for one place. This is the point Merc63 is trying to make. Weistec is very comprehensive with the entire drive-train of these cars, and every other AMG. The buck doesn't stop at just the supercharger, unless you want to make what Weistec's Stage 1 SC is making which is a little over 500hp at the wheels, while being 50 state carb legal.

If you want to consistently make 560 at the wheels with this car, you will need to eventually give weistec a call is Merc63's point.
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Old Nov 5, 2015 | 04:00 PM
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Exactly thank you, how hard is that to understand.
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Old Nov 5, 2015 | 04:07 PM
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Exactly thank you, how hard is that to understand.
So you answered your own question.

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Who's gonna build the tranny when it blows?
Weistec
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Old Nov 5, 2015 | 04:11 PM
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Renntech does it too. But never seen anyone running it. All I'm saying is there more to it then just bolting this thing on, especially at 700hp+...

You going to pump all that engine oil into your nice new blower too? Oh gotta call Weistec for that too.

Jason you buying or just chirping?
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Old Nov 5, 2015 | 04:35 PM
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to me there post is very vague and it seems they have not done much testing
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Old Nov 5, 2015 | 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Merc63
Bud can you read, I just said, because people think your going to run the blower without a new tranny, you're dreaming. They are rating it 50-60hp less than stage 3. My tranny lasted a week. If you have a newer MCT car you are probably alright, but any TC cars, good luck.

Me personally, I like to support the guys who are making the transmissions, head studs, water tanks, oil air separators, etc etc. Instead of the new guy on the block that's going to toss a blower into the market with nothing else. Their product looks good and so does the price but that's not all there is to the story.


And if you think slipping occurs when "going in a straight line through all the gears" that's funny. Since when are we supposed to let off the gas to make a shift lol.
I understand you may have been sheltered in the merc brand but you would be highly surprised how many transmission come with instruction of what you can and can't do. not leaving flat out from 2nd gear, not manulaly shifting the car flat out etc

Even those running dct trans mission with other cars like 335i and m3s have received instruction on driving style until tranny upgrades have been made.

SMG cars, if the clutch had not been upgraded are told not to flat shift until you get the upgrade.and yes it quite possible to drive with out doing so and still race.

Regardless of that when you first made this comment it was not about informing anyone about building the tranny you were tryna make apoint about them not using weistic for the supercharge where they would be recommend to built the tranny.

You like wiestic thats great nothing bad about it. but if you are not interested in the kit, which is clear stop taking shots at it that have nothing to do with it.

Guy posted infor about a supercharger coming out. post that is like saying who is going to build the tranny on their supra when they upgrade turbos? that doesn't make any damn sense. This thread is about the supercharge and that only.

If you were tryna inform, the general statement would have been make sure you Get the tranny upgraded at those numbers the tranny is likle to slip on the older trans. (though LCI or second gen c63s wont which just happens to be the car used from this company) .


BTW you don't need to call wiestec for a oil seprator lol... you can't be a DIY guy if you think that. You also don't need to call wiestic for headers either. like really guy this is about one product and you are detracting about another because this product isn't being made by a ONE STOP SHOP.

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Old Nov 5, 2015 | 05:10 PM
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Can't believe I just read all that gibberish nonsense.
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Old Nov 5, 2015 | 07:03 PM
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call it what you want, fact is you have an issue with this kits as it's not from a one stop shop like weistec, you and two others have made that clear in your responses. Tranny upgrades have nothing to do with the kit being offered. Wiestec isnt the only place to get any further bolt ons or change made for the car. Those are facts no matter how you feel about it.

Buying this kit and then having wiestec or renntech, or level 10 transmssion upgrade your clutch packs and do valve body upgrade you still save over 4k over just getting everything from wiestec. So in short it actually is a smart idea to look at this kit verses the wiestec stage 2.

thought process like staying with on shop they have been doing they are the best bottle neck progress and platform development plane and simple. competition causes benefits for customers.

when the first intake system was available for the f10 m5 it was being sold at 3k( which is ****ing retarded) JB4 a cheaper company, and for others started producing their own, cost for this system for a m5 is now less than 1200 dollars.
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Old Nov 5, 2015 | 08:25 PM
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call it what you want, fact is you have an issue with this kits as it's not from a one stop shop like weistec, you and two others have made that clear in your responses. Tranny upgrades have nothing to do with the kit being offered. Wiestec isnt the only place to get any further bolt ons or change made for the car. Those are facts no matter how you feel about it.

Buying this kit and then having wiestec or renntech, or level 10 transmssion upgrade your clutch packs and do valve body upgrade you still save over 4k over just getting everything from wiestec. So in short it actually is a smart idea to look at this kit verses the wiestec stage 2.

thought process like staying with on shop they have been doing they are the best bottle neck progress and platform development plane and simple. competition causes benefits for customers.

when the first intake system was available for the f10 m5 it was being sold at 3k( which is ****ing retarded) JB4 a cheaper company, and for others started producing their own, cost for this system for a m5 is now less than 1200 dollars.

Miami, FL... explains why you're such an idiot.
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Old Nov 5, 2015 | 09:20 PM
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call it what you want, fact is you have an issue with this kits as it's not from a one stop shop like weistec, you and two others have made that clear in your responses. Tranny upgrades have nothing to do with the kit being offered. Wiestec isnt the only place to get any further bolt ons or change made for the car. Those are facts no matter how you feel about it.

Buying this kit and then having wiestec or renntech, or level 10 transmssion upgrade your clutch packs and do valve body upgrade you still save over 4k over just getting everything from wiestec. So in short it actually is a smart idea to look at this kit verses the wiestec stage 2.

thought process like staying with on shop they have been doing they are the best bottle neck progress and platform development plane and simple. competition causes benefits for customers.

when the first intake system was available for the f10 m5 it was being sold at 3k( which is ****ing retarded) JB4 a cheaper company, and for others started producing their own, cost for this system for a m5 is now less than 1200 dollars.
i think you need to stick to BMWS and there level 10 transmission upgrades

You have no idea
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Old Nov 5, 2015 | 09:21 PM
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Renntech does it too. But never seen anyone running it. All I'm saying is there more to it then just bolting this thing on, especially at 700hp+...

You going to pump all that engine oil into your nice new blower too? Oh gotta call Weistec for that too.

Jason you buying or just chirping?
Obviously chirping.

You sound emotional about this. Do you have Weistec stock?

Relax guy, I have their Oil/Air separator, it's all good...
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Old Nov 5, 2015 | 09:40 PM
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Old Nov 5, 2015 | 09:44 PM
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i think you need to stick to BMWS and there level 10 transmission upgrades

You have no idea
Have had quite a few differnt cars it's quite ignorant to want one shop to remain the sole supplier of any type of good or service. You have no clue, you are just justifing the purchase you have already made. It's dumb to say weistec does it all stick to them. If supra, lambo and Porsche owners had this same thought process you wouldnt have the advance they have made where
Titan, mvp, boost logic, induction performance, ams, alpha motor sports have continued to build off one another. Each setting record after record. What's the current fastest 1/4 c63 time ? Platform development from multiple minds not one, weistec is great in what they do but they are not the end all be all and as the price of this platform drops more and more will step up to the plate to continue make advances from it.
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Old Nov 5, 2015 | 10:03 PM
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Chirp chirp

Drives an m3.... Explains everything.

Like Jeremy Clarkson said, m3 drivers have no friends
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I'm excited about this kit, it puts out more power than a stage 2 Weistec and saves you money. I have no problem purchasing this kit then going to Weistec for a transmission upgrade and will still spend less money than someone who just purchased a stage 2 Weistec.

Maybe now the price for Weistec will drop a little, they are extremely overpriced and they had the ability to be until now.
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Old Nov 5, 2015 | 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by iShootYou
I'm excited about this kit, it puts out more power than a stage 2 Weistec and saves you money. I have no problem purchasing this kit then going to Weistec for a transmission upgrade and will still spend less money than someone who just purchased a stage 2 Weistec.

Maybe now the price for Weistec will drop a little, they are extremely overpriced and they had the ability to be until now.
i dont think there prices will drop they have proven kits that are the fastest in the world this kit is not proven its been produced and tested for maybe 6 months

Weistec has been doing this since 2007 they have the market covered ( another c63 just broke the SC record today) 9.7

i agree its exciting to see a new comer but the last of the AMG N/A engines is done now i think its pointless they have come to the party now

All the best to magnuson
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Old Nov 5, 2015 | 10:37 PM
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Drives an m3.... Explains everything.

Like Jeremy Clarkson said, m3 drivers have no friends
lol... Your right I have a m3, oh and a c63, oh and this 20year old 800hp datsun lol. You have what? 25k in your c63 setup from weistec, no wonder you're so butt hurt about another company making a kit...

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i dont think there prices will drop they have proven kits that are the fastest in the world this kit is not proven its been produced and tested for maybe 6 months

Weistec has been doing this since 2007 they have the market covered ( another c63 just broke the SC record today) 9.7

i agree its exciting to see a new comer but the last of the AMG N/A engines is done now i think its pointless they have come to the party now

All the best to magnuson
during this time you will have younger owners. and owners looking for something to play with, coming in to the market with the prices dropping, they will be more willing to mod without fear of warranty failure etc. From a aftermarket aspec this is a great time . even active autworks just started making prima kits for E46m3s and they sold off the shelves like hot cakes and that car is 2 generations old.

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Weistec has been doing this since 2007 they have the market covered ( another c63 just broke the SC record today) 9.7
More on this ^ please
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Old Nov 5, 2015 | 10:47 PM
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Well, who is going to be the first to buy one? I want to see what its going to do. I know one of you guys has 10k to spend.
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lol... Your right I have a m3, oh and a c63, oh and this 20year old 800hp datsun lol. You have what? 25k in your c63 setup from weistec, no wonder you're so butt hurt about another company making a kit...



during this time you will have younger owners. and owners looking for something to play with, coming in to the market with the prices dropping, they will be more willing to mod without fear of warranty failure etc. From a aftermarket aspec this is a great time . even active autworks just started making prima kits for E46m3s and they sold off the shelves like hot cakes and that car is 2 generations old.
all im saying weistec has been in the game involved in the merc platform since 2007

while magnuson has been in the game alot longer there new to the mercedes platform and to my knownledge havent really done much testing me myself yes im a weistec fan boy but in saying that they know what they are doing there leaders

these guys are new comers and have no idea they cant even release qtr mile times
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Holy hell 144mph, where's the details? Any vids
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all im saying weistec has been in the game involved in the merc platform since 2007

while magnuson has been in the game alot longer there new to the mercedes platform and to my knownledge havent really done much testing me myself yes im a weistec fan boy but in saying that they know what they are doing there leaders

these guys are new comers and have no idea they cant even release qtr mile times
I'm sure those times will come soon, but new comers bring new ideas. A roots blower while develops heat, makes power sooner at lower rpm then a twin screw. Nice sticky tires on set of welds with some soft springs out back may make for and interesting out comes. Can't knock something before it has a chance.

There were no times released on the new chevy SS blower and those cars on pump are making what CTSVs with upper and lower pulley and headers on e85 are making. Hellion just came up with a turbo kit for the new 5.0 mustang that put down a scary 900WHP, yes at the wheels on a stock block. No one has asked about 1/4mile times but customers have sense broke 9s with it. got to give it time sir. It really not that common to have 1/4 miles associated with hp numbers on products, the new age has moved on to roll racing and many just want to know power out up. Not saying thats good but just reality of the market in the US. Those gtrs from AMS have never posted 1/4mile with their packages only power out puts because there are just to many variables to say your car will run this or that.

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Holy hell 144mph, where's the details? Any vids
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