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Old Apr 28, 2016 | 03:12 PM
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Question finding the proper bolts for H&R spacers 10mm (R) 12mm (F)

I am having issues trying to find the proper lug bolts for this setup, i am running the OEM wheels

from doing online searches i only see 35mm ball seat bolts and 40mm ball seat bolts

EMNOTEK is recommending

10mm Spacers - Use Wheel Bolt 14 x 1.5 35mm
12mm Spacers - Use Wheel Bolt 14 x 1.5 40mm

Can anyone confirm this is ok to use?
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Old Apr 28, 2016 | 04:21 PM
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Just buy wheel studs. Makes life so much easier.
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Old Apr 28, 2016 | 05:40 PM
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Old Apr 28, 2016 | 05:54 PM
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Best to go 40mm with the 10mm spacers. Test them, if you hit the ABS sensor them shave 2-3mm off them.

40mm is perfect with the 12mm spacers.

Standard lugs are 27mm.
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Old Apr 28, 2016 | 09:51 PM
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I have forged monoblocks on the car right now, so no longer the OE wheels. That being said, I count about 5.6 turns up front to remove a 27mm thread length ball seat lug bolt from a fully tightened state (5 complete turns is considered the safe minimum). That suggests that you are better off using the 40mm lug bolts with 10mm spacers. You may get lucky and they will just clear, otherwise cut them down which depending upon cost you may want to do anyway just to have the cleanest job.

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Old Apr 28, 2016 | 11:01 PM
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OEM rear lugs are 27mm + 10mm spacers = 37mm .. 35mm is 2mm too short , get the 40mm to be safe & shave 2-3mm off if u hear a clicking noise in the back.

OEM front lugs are 27mm + 12mm spacers = 39mm .. 35mm is 4mm too short. 40mm is perfect & no need to shave .

That's what I was running with my own wheels & no issue.
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Old Apr 28, 2016 | 11:13 PM
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Old Apr 28, 2016 | 11:18 PM
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u are our new wheel master now bro ...since u have so many sets of HRE
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Old Apr 28, 2016 | 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by AMG3.2
Just buy wheel studs. Makes life so much easier.
Can u elaborate?

I always find it harder to change the studs everytime I change spacers thickness on my Japanese cars in the past as opposed to buying longer or shorter bolts on the benz.
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Old Apr 29, 2016 | 12:43 AM
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u are our new wheel master now bro ...since u have so many sets of HRE
So many sets of HRE's... Bish, you have the whole damn line-up
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Old Apr 29, 2016 | 02:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Roswell
Can u elaborate?

I always find it harder to change the studs everytime I change spacers thickness on my Japanese cars in the past as opposed to buying longer or shorter bolts on the benz.
Yeah, sure here you go.

https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w...on-sizing.html

Just buy a stud kit once and you're done with it. No shaving of bolts etc.. Plus installing wheels is SO much easier.
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Old Apr 29, 2016 | 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by AMG3.2
Yeah, sure here you go.

https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w...on-sizing.html

Just buy a stud kit once and you're done with it. No shaving of bolts etc.. Plus installing wheels is SO much easier.
Excellent advice!
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Old Apr 29, 2016 | 09:22 AM
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I see how that stud kit works on German cars now, I thought u had to press it from behind like Japanese cars.

How safe is this method though?
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Old Apr 29, 2016 | 02:36 PM
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I have 10 mm on the rear and use ML lug bolts straight from Dealer
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Old Apr 29, 2016 | 03:11 PM
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I have 10 mm on the rear and use ML lug bolts straight from Dealer
would you happen to know how long is it?
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Old Apr 30, 2016 | 12:03 AM
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I see how that stud kit works on German cars now, I thought u had to press it from behind like Japanese cars.

How safe is this method though?

I did the conversion on my MB because I didn't know what wheels I was going to run and didn't know what spacers either. I thought it would be easier to just do extended studs and buy any wheel and spacer. I don't remember the bolt length but I wish now I purchased shorter ones. I can easily put 3" spacers. It was a complete pain in the *** to do it.

I ran 2 nuts together to install them. Used loc-tite on the threads and torqued them to 100'lb I think. I haven't had any issues and I don't plan on taking them off since it sucked so bad. I'll try to take some pics tomorrow.

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Old Apr 30, 2016 | 07:02 AM
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I think the lug bolts are a cleaner look, compared to doing a stud conversion. I use a 37mm lug bolt in the rear with my 10mm spacer. Otis inc LA has the correct bolts and can shave off a 40mm bolt to the correct 37mm length for a minimal fee.
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