LandToSea

I am looking at two cars right now for my 100m/day DD after my 2015 Mustang GT was totaled. I plan to put 25k miles/yr on the car for the next 4 years at least.

OPT 1: Privately owned 2016 C63 with 49.3k miles, FL car. The paint looks like hell with scratches and blemishes plus one dent that can probably be resolved by a mobile dent guy. The interior is evident that the car hasn't been given TLC at all, but not damage except the finish peeling from the center console trim in one spot that should be warrantied. It was a rental for the first 22k miles. Nothing on Carfax, but there is evident poor paintwork. I brought it to get inspected by a MB tech friend and the turbo IC seems to be leaking. He picked it up since the computer read indicated low fluid and then visually confirmed. The seller is bringing it to MB dealer to see what it is exactly and if it is covered under warranty and to also get 2 recalls taken care of for software update and injectors. Negotiated price is $31.5k assuming the leak is resolved.

OPT2: Used MB dealer who has been around for 40 years with a 2013 C63 coupe with 34k miles, FL car. The car looks brand new inside and out. The asking price is $34.9k pre negotiation, but I know these guys do not flex much from previous negotiations. They let me walk away over $2k on a $45k asking price for a 2012 CLS 63.

*both cars are black which I can't have living off a dirt road. I will wrap either one in satin metallic grey so the paint imperfections are not extremely relevant in regards to my satisfaction in appearance. It would effect resale, but I do not expect the car to have much residual value after I add 100k miles to it.

What would you do?

Adi-Benz

2013

Imperfections show through wrap

BLKROKT

Buy a Honda

LandToSea

Are you such a douche in real life or only where you can hide behind a keyboard? I have seen other comments from you on other person's posts acting in the same punk *** way with no constructive input. Weak *** troll...

LandToSea

These scratches and swirls wouldn't, just the dent which can be resolved with paintless dent removal I am pretty certain.

m a x i m u s

I would be hesitant to buy a car that was a rental. Also, the 2013 will probably depreciate less (maybe?) since it is already 3 years older.

BLKROKT

Relax. You’re going to put 100k miles on a used car in 4 years. A beat-up used high-performance former rental car that already has 50k miles and gets mediocre gas mileage is not what I would do that with. If you had to choose between the two, I’d get the 12 coupe, but again, there are probably more practical choices. You asked a question, don’t ask if you’re just going to get all pissy when someone gives you an answer you don’t like.

ZephyrAMG

^^^^^ he’s pretty much right, as far as the specifics are concerned a Honda would be more practical due to your daily 100 mile commute. With a C 63 you would be spending a lot in gas and wear and tear, especially tires. It would be ideal if you can pick up a cheaper daily commuting Car and also pick up a nicer C 63, either like the 2013 one or any year after in better condition. Definitely stay away from a car that has been used as a rental that is so beat down physically and cosmetically. There are a lot better condition cars out there you just have to take a little bit of time and look and be patient.

Jasonoff

You didn't answer the question you quoted.

LandToSea

I never mentioned looking for the most practical choice, or solicited advice on other car options. I am in a car 2 hours a day so I want to enjoy it. I am looking to replace the 22mpg Mustang GT with something more "mature", but still have the performance. As far as making a good economic choice I am buying used for that reason. Could I buy a new C63, sure I could. Would it make financial sense, no.

LandToSea

As I replied to him, I wasn't looking for anything but insight on a comparison between the cars. I have analyzed all of the options within what I feel is sensible to spend on a car that will be depreciated so fast because of mileage. I was running MPSS tires on my Mustang so off topic again, I can afford the tires. I just want to purchase the best C or CLS class AMG Mercedes I can with $40k max.

Jasonoff

You will get 15mpg AT BEST with the 2016 C63 (~30-35% increase) so keep that in mind for fuel costs.

LandToSea

In the 2013 I would expect that but not the 2016. It is rated at 18/24 and my driving is 80% highway. My GT was rated 16/25 and I averaged 22mpg.
https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/Find...n=sbs&id=36659

NotABaller

- Dont ever buy a rental car
- Buy the w204 if you want a badass exhaust note. It's much louder and sounds much better
- Buy the w205 if you wanna be faster and enjoy newer tech.

Personally, with 40k budget, Id get the w204. You can get a nice low mileage, full spec w204 for 40k USD. If I had more money, i'd definitely get the w205. With downpipe and tune, those cars are insanely fast. And the coupe version looks great.

LandToSea

I get the rental car thing, but is it really any different than buying a lease or even a used car from some owners? Either way, that is why the agreed to price is $6+k under market.

TPete19

A rental C63 will have been driven HARD. I'd stay away from that one.

G_Money

I've put close to 20k on my 2013 in the last year. I bought it at like 25k tho. Haven't had any major problems other than getting the calipers replaced do the peeling paint (warranty).

Highway cruising, i get 20-21mpg. City driving is like 14-15. Heavy, stop and go traffic can be less than that.

Jasonoff

Is this a serious question?

Have you ever rented a car before? lol

juggernaut1

Out of these two options I'd buy the 2013 C63, Not because I like it better than the next gen C63, but because it sounds like it has been looked after and is in far better condition which would be important to me. Given your daily trips, it also sounds like you'd also want something that is reliable which I think the 2013 C63 will be in this case. Whatever you decide get a pre-purchase inspection.

If you have your heart set on a 2016 or later C63 then wait for a better example to show up and pay the extra - the pay back will likely be a saving in future costs compared to the current example your looking at.

SGM330

I would spend a little more and get a used w205 that hasn't been used for a rental car, since you'll spend the savings on replacing wear and tear items sooner than later. There is a significant difference in the amount of fuel the w204 takes compared to the w205. The fuel savings by owning the w205 will offset the difference in cost by buying a more expensive car.

However, if your only two vehicle options are the ones listed above, I would go with the w204 since it will be more reliable than a budget w205 IMO.

LandToSea

After more analysis I think I am walking from both. The 13 due to the mpg and the 16 due to the miles and history. Back to the drawing board...

Diabolis

Probably a very smart decision. Putting on 100k miles in four years on either car is not viable. The W205 C63 will not last 4 years; the W204 C63 will, but it will cost you so much more in gas (I average about 21 L/100km, which is ~11 mpg) that the price of the car almost becomes irrelevant. For that commute, I'd be looking at an E250 Bluetec (yes, the 4-pot diesel) if you want a Merc. Either that or a Lexus if you can swallow the looks.

LandToSea

Are you stating that ANY W205 will not last that usage, or the ABOVE W205 will not last? I am just curious if there is something about the car in general that I am not aware of, or we are making assumptions based on given history. I found a 2014 CLS550 4matic yesterday that I liked a lot for $28k. It was very clean appearing, clean Carfax with recorded maintenance, loaded and 33k miles and drove strong. I took it for inspection today and found 3-4 separate oil leaks at a sensor, turbo feed hose, seal where the axle passes through and another unidentified origin due to limited access in the area. I went back and told the dealer who in turn said they will have it inspected and if they confirm the same it will go back to Manheim where it came from to resell via auction. Moral of the story is despite how a history looks on paper you never know without actually confirming what you can and even then there are those black swans.

I am going to look at this C63 tomorrow listed for $39k at 40k miles and supposedly clean from a reputable exotic dealer. ~.75/mile depreciation.
https://monroneylabels.com/cars/5980...umboluxurycars

Diabolis

Both. That particular one because of its history, but also in general as the hot-V M177 biturbo appears to have been rushed through the development and testing stage (less than 2 years as opposed to the usual 3-5 year development) and is starting to show a far bit of problems in all cars where it is used. There is a reason why Mercedes still uses the old 6.2L N/A M156 engine in the GT3 endurance racer and only puts the 4L TT M177 in the GT4 car.

Diabolis

The 2014 CLS550 is a (different) biturbo as well. In a used premium (read: high maintenance) Mercedes that you intend to put that kind of mileage on, I'd be looking at a model with the 250 diesel or something with a naturally aspirated engine.