Hello, currently I have a 507 w/ stage 2 and 2nd cat deletes and am looking to improve engine/oil temp cooling. I've heard that ceramic coated headers will cool temps but have also heard about upgraded cooling systems (I'm aware that AMG no longer sells their kits), so it will have to be a 3rd party kit. Which is a better option to proceed with and why, thanks! I have been lurking around the forums, but was unable in my quest to answer this question.

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ty. wondering what the differences would be specifically for country road driving for ceramic coated headers vs this

What type of country road driving are you doing where the car is overheating or coming close to overheating?

lets say spirited driving: while driving M mode: upshifts approx at 4-5, downshifting at approx 3-4 will get the temp to 115-118C very quickly. I've never went into limp mode and dont intend on it.

I do not track currently, I do not know if its something I will do in the future given costs

Yeah when I go up to Blood Mountain I'm usually pulling off every 20 minutes or so if I'm going hard, when the oil gets to like 265F.

My ceramic coating on my headers didn't do much for oil temp but IT'S and coolant are definitely lower.

Interesting, I run blood as well and ceramic coated long tubes. I run pretty hard and rarely ever get past ~245 or so. What tune are you running?

I have run ceramic coating on headers on my last 3 cars.
Ceramic coating will make your headers perform better according to "experts" as its supposed to trap the heat inside the headers creating better flow.
But as far as cooling your engine goes, its very little.
Yes the engine bay, especially wiring and rubber will benefit from less radiant and convection heat.
Bigger oil cooling is still the best for helping cool these M156 engines internally.

could this be the ceramic coated tubes that bring down your temp?

thanks this is what I needed info on. cooling the engine bay does not necessarily cool the engine oil/temps. any good tier brands for the cooling upgrades? Im hearing BPE so far...

Check out SRG63's bigger cooler.
I have his cooler fitted and fitting is just plug and play using all original bolts and screws.
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might be one of the best ways to prevent cooking your ABS/ESP module, but yeah, keeping the engine oil cool itself? No

Pressertech. Where are you located? I'm out on Lake Oconee. We should set up a run soon!

Also I think it is important to delineate ceratek/Cerakote/bake on powder coat from a true ceramic coating like Jet Hot or Swaintech.

Good point here. Swain is the real deal for sure. While it does a measurable job of improving exhaust conditions, the side benefit of improving under-hood temps is measurable on the surface, but not in performance. Or at least not that I've ever seen.

One more thing to consider. Are your stock belly pans in place? If not, put them back on. The belly pans do improve airflow through the engine bay at speed. Another thing you might be able to do, is improve the angle-to-airflow of the oil cooler, or add/improve the shrouding to better direct air through the cooler. You can make some pretty decent improvements just by changing the shrouding in and out. It only costs you some time, cardboard, and tape, to test.

The aftermarket oil cooler sold on thos forum is going to be my next big mod!