CLE 53 AMG - 6 cylinder - announced - Dec 5, 23
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CLE 53 AMG - 6 cylinder - announced - Dec 5, 23
Looks like theres some info out.
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Looks like they are not holding back with the 53. Same styling and body as what will be with the 63. Not much down side for the 53, plus with the V6.
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A bit disappointing that it doesn't have a handbuilt engine or the MCT 9 speed. I'd have thought with the amount of fuss people made about the old C43 V6 not being one man one engine that Mercedes might have changed that going forward.
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Yeah. Very weird for sure.
They gave it the full fledged AMG body styling, unlike the C43.
But then they did not give it one man one engine like the C43 or the MCT.
Very haphazard overall.
They gave it the full fledged AMG body styling, unlike the C43.
But then they did not give it one man one engine like the C43 or the MCT.
Very haphazard overall.
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Looks like it doesn't have E-Performance tech either, so this is the same setup and M256 as the C257 CLS 53 and W213 E 53? Same engine same 48V mild hybrid? Big fan of that wide rear. definetly makes up for the C 63 S E Performance not having a wide rear, will be interesting what the CLE 63 brings to the table but I imagine the CLE 53 is the sweet spot for most.
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Just a guess but they might want to save that for the CLE 63, they also never hand built any M256 before (assuming this is indeed the engine used in the CLE 53) , rumours said they are redesigning the M256 engine and then also hand build it, but as of now, M256 itself remains being fully built by machines. The M139 on the other hand as you know was hand-built when it first came out in the CLA 45 S.
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That's what's a bit odd in the newer AMG lineup. People gravitating toward the W206 C43 over the C63, and possibly the CLE53 over the CLE63 if the CLE63 gets the 4 cylinder hybrid setup. Maybe there's some logic to creating a second-from-top model as being more desirable than the top model, but I'm struggling to see what that logic might be. Seems more likely to be a miss-step from MB, who thought people would be wowed enough by high HP and torque figures to overlook the 4 cylinder engine and significant increase in weight that this setup brings.
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From what Ive read, the CLE 63 SE will have the same engine as the C63 SE - M139L
It just seems very weird to have the V6 in the 53. I guess maybe the reason they dont have the MCT in the 53, like AMPERAGE mentioned is to save it for the CLE 63 and entice buyers to that instead.
I do agree that the 53 looks to be the sweet spot in terms of price, V6 but still getting the body styling of the 63.
Will be interesting to see what the CLE63 comes out as and what the reception of the 53 vs 63 is,
I did not see a mention of the weight of the CLE 53. Was interested to see that.
It just seems very weird to have the V6 in the 53. I guess maybe the reason they dont have the MCT in the 53, like AMPERAGE mentioned is to save it for the CLE 63 and entice buyers to that instead.
I do agree that the 53 looks to be the sweet spot in terms of price, V6 but still getting the body styling of the 63.
Will be interesting to see what the CLE63 comes out as and what the reception of the 53 vs 63 is,
I did not see a mention of the weight of the CLE 53. Was interested to see that.
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That's what's a bit odd in the newer AMG lineup. People gravitating toward the W206 C43 over the C63, and possibly the CLE53 over the CLE63 if the CLE63 gets the 4 cylinder hybrid setup. Maybe there's some logic to creating a second-from-top model as being more desirable than the top model, but I'm struggling to see what that logic might be. Seems more likely to be a miss-step from MB, who thought people would be wowed enough by high HP and torque figures to overlook the 4 cylinder engine and significant increase in weight that this setup brings.
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From what Ive read, the CLE 63 SE will have the same engine as the C63 SE - M139L
It just seems very weird to have the V6 in the 53. I guess maybe the reason they dont have the MCT in the 53, like AMPERAGE mentioned is to save it for the CLE 63 and entice buyers to that instead.
I do agree that the 53 looks to be the sweet spot in terms of price, V6 but still getting the body styling of the 63.
Will be interesting to see what the CLE63 comes out as and what the reception of the 53 vs 63 is,
I did not see a mention of the weight of the CLE 53. Was interested to see that.
It just seems very weird to have the V6 in the 53. I guess maybe the reason they dont have the MCT in the 53, like AMPERAGE mentioned is to save it for the CLE 63 and entice buyers to that instead.
I do agree that the 53 looks to be the sweet spot in terms of price, V6 but still getting the body styling of the 63.
Will be interesting to see what the CLE63 comes out as and what the reception of the 53 vs 63 is,
I did not see a mention of the weight of the CLE 53. Was interested to see that.
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Wow was not expecting this! The wide body is to die for. This thing is drop dead sexy. This kills not only the ugly M440i but also the FUGLY M4 in looks alone. Not sure if I’m sold on the taillights but I’m sold on everything else. Where do I sign???
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The car looks beautiful - most likely aimed at doing damage control given the abysmal feedback that AMG has received around plunking a 4-cylinder (albeit more powerful engine) in their C63S E.
I reckon if they dropped a more tuned version of this engine in the C63S E, it would have received a lot more than the frigid reception it's gotten thus far. Feels like they are buying time with this move - and probably trying to recover lost demand. They still need a 6+ cylinder full fat AMG for around the 80-90K USD mark, but this may buy them enough time to get their strategy right.
Curious to get the groups thoughts - do you think they'll ever go back to more cylinders in the C class AMGs? At a certain point they need to do damage control, but backtracking on a car just before it's global release may be a really expensive move.
I reckon if they dropped a more tuned version of this engine in the C63S E, it would have received a lot more than the frigid reception it's gotten thus far. Feels like they are buying time with this move - and probably trying to recover lost demand. They still need a 6+ cylinder full fat AMG for around the 80-90K USD mark, but this may buy them enough time to get their strategy right.
Curious to get the groups thoughts - do you think they'll ever go back to more cylinders in the C class AMGs? At a certain point they need to do damage control, but backtracking on a car just before it's global release may be a really expensive move.
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From what Ive read, the CLE 63 SE will have the same engine as the C63 SE - M139L
It just seems very weird to have the V6 in the 53. I guess maybe the reason they dont have the MCT in the 53, like AMPERAGE mentioned is to save it for the CLE 63 and entice buyers to that instead.
I do agree that the 53 looks to be the sweet spot in terms of price, V6 but still getting the body styling of the 63.
Will be interesting to see what the CLE63 comes out as and what the reception of the 53 vs 63 is,
I did not see a mention of the weight of the CLE 53. Was interested to see that.
It just seems very weird to have the V6 in the 53. I guess maybe the reason they dont have the MCT in the 53, like AMPERAGE mentioned is to save it for the CLE 63 and entice buyers to that instead.
I do agree that the 53 looks to be the sweet spot in terms of price, V6 but still getting the body styling of the 63.
Will be interesting to see what the CLE63 comes out as and what the reception of the 53 vs 63 is,
I did not see a mention of the weight of the CLE 53. Was interested to see that.
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The car looks beautiful - most likely aimed at doing damage control given the abysmal feedback that AMG has received around plunking a 4-cylinder (albeit more powerful engine) in their C63S E.
I reckon if they dropped a more tuned version of this engine in the C63S E, it would have received a lot more than the frigid reception it's gotten thus far. Feels like they are buying time with this move - and probably trying to recover lost demand. They still need a 6+ cylinder full fat AMG for around the 80-90K USD mark, but this may buy them enough time to get their strategy right.
Curious to get the groups thoughts - do you think they'll ever go back to more cylinders in the C class AMGs? At a certain point they need to do damage control, but backtracking on a car just before it's global release may be a really expensive move.
I reckon if they dropped a more tuned version of this engine in the C63S E, it would have received a lot more than the frigid reception it's gotten thus far. Feels like they are buying time with this move - and probably trying to recover lost demand. They still need a 6+ cylinder full fat AMG for around the 80-90K USD mark, but this may buy them enough time to get their strategy right.
Curious to get the groups thoughts - do you think they'll ever go back to more cylinders in the C class AMGs? At a certain point they need to do damage control, but backtracking on a car just before it's global release may be a really expensive move.
Never, MB is full committed to electrification. Unless regulations get relaxed cylinder counts will not go up.
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Been waiting on this for a while....
Dealer didn't know anything. Rep was close mouthed. I think their expectations are high and may be last of this engine tranny. They are talking like it will April before I can get a car. But I want to build one. Probably a keeper for me as I don't see as much riding in the future (Age 66). Any info you can glean would be great appreciated...
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Interview with AMG Head Michael Schiebe Top Gear UK. It looks like the CLE 63 hinted to be the 6 cylinder.
https://www.topgear.com/car-news/hyb...mance-car-2025
https://www.topgear.com/car-news/hyb...mance-car-2025
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Interview with AMG Head Michael Schiebe Top Gear UK. It looks like the CLE 63 hinted to be the 6 cylinder.
https://www.topgear.com/car-news/hyb...mance-car-2025
https://www.topgear.com/car-news/hyb...mance-car-2025
Will be interesting if they put E Performance stuff in and how the weight will be.
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Looks like it doesn't have E-Performance tech either, so this is the same setup and M256 as the C257 CLS 53 and W213 E 53? Same engine same 48V mild hybrid? Big fan of that wide rear. definetly makes up for the C 63 S E Performance not having a wide rear, will be interesting what the CLE 63 brings to the table but I imagine the CLE 53 is the sweet spot for most.