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Old Jun 10, 2016 | 09:08 PM
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WEISTEC VTA Valve(blow off) install

Just did a very quick video on how to install the VTA valves by WEISTEC

https://youtu.be/d3QNOIl627s


Hope you guys like it!!!

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Old Jun 10, 2016 | 09:38 PM
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Do you have a sound clip?
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Old Jun 11, 2016 | 12:28 AM
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Interesting and informative vid well done

I think what you've suggested as the "alternative" is definitely the thing to do - it is exactly what I've done to other turbo charged cars of mine over the years ie. remove that same/similar hose and just plug off the opening...

It's worked well with no negative or backward effect on any of those cars I've done it to, hopefully it'll be the same for the new M177 engine.

As above can you make a sound clip to show off the audible effect or difference if any, with my cars that I've done the same modification to, it's definitely noticeable with a manual transmission but not so much with an auto trans, very interested to see what the result is in this case
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Old Jun 11, 2016 | 02:53 AM
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Old Jun 11, 2016 | 05:19 AM
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Originally Posted by AV1
Interesting and informative vid well done

I think what you've suggested as the "alternative" is definitely the thing to do - it is exactly what I've done to other turbo charged cars of mine over the years ie. remove that same/similar hose and just plug off the opening...

It's worked well with no negative or backward effect on any of those cars I've done it to, hopefully it'll be the same for the new M177 engine.

As above can you make a sound clip to show off the audible effect or difference if any, with my cars that I've done the same modification to, it's definitely noticeable with a manual transmission but not so much with an auto trans, very interested to see what the result is in this case
Did a sound clip on IG, I will try to do a full driving video. But so far the sound is amazing!!!
https://instagram.com/p/BGfoK3EhWat/

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Old Jun 11, 2016 | 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Oky
Sound clip!!!
Did a quick video on my IG page above
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Old Jun 11, 2016 | 06:37 AM
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I just did this earlier, removed the hoses to hear it, sounds just like in your video but the setup is not as clean. I've gotten a kick out of it tho, and easily able to put the hoses back in.

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Did a quick video on my IG page above
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Old Jun 11, 2016 | 08:52 AM
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Why would someone want to listen to that noise?
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Old Jun 11, 2016 | 11:10 AM
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I'm not so sure I'd want this, even if it's a free mod - mostly because I think the BOV tuner whoosh sounds out of place on an AMG, it's better suited for a big turbo tuner/JDM car. Besides, the V8 roar is all I need. If you want to hear more intake or induction noise, just install an intake - it's cheaper and will probably even yield some HP/TQ on the top end.

Also, nobody concerned that you're no longer recirculating the air back into the intakes? If you were to do a mod like this on even an older car, it would throw a CEL or have some kind of negative effect on performance because the ECU is expecting/compensating for that air those diverter valves are recirculating back.

At least on the Bosch ME7 ECU on the B5 S4 (a 15 year old car), replacing the DV's for BOV's would cause stuttering issues if it wasn't properly tuned for it. Just some food for thought as I'm sure the ECU's in the M177 are way more advanced and sensitive to these kinds of things.
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What's the difference with these & the ones on turbokits.com? Turbo Kits were co-developed by Forge.
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Old Jun 13, 2016 | 03:24 AM
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Originally Posted by longbow0404
Did a sound clip on IG, I will try to do a full driving video. But so far the sound is amazing!!!
https://instagram.com/p/BGfoK3EhWat/
Nice I like it, it's not an "in your face" or super loud BOV sound and not that pronounced either and just as I thought it would be with an auto trans if it were a manual there would definitely be more blow off because of the manual pedals shift action - have you noticed any negative effects ?

I do agree with some of what AlexZTuned has stated above but at least this is not one bit as loud or pronounced as aftermarket BOV units which are purposely made with trumpet outlets to make the BOV whoosh as loudly as possible, that is not to my taste either.
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Old Jun 13, 2016 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by AlexZTuned
I'm not so sure I'd want this, even if it's a free mod - mostly because I think the BOV tuner whoosh sounds out of place on an AMG, it's better suited for a big turbo tuner/JDM car. Besides, the V8 roar is all I need. If you want to hear more intake or induction noise, just install an intake - it's cheaper and will probably even yield some HP/TQ on the top end.

Also, nobody concerned that you're no longer recirculating the air back into the intakes? If you were to do a mod like this on even an older car, it would throw a CEL or have some kind of negative effect on performance because the ECU is expecting/compensating for that air those diverter valves are recirculating back.

At least on the Bosch ME7 ECU on the B5 S4 (a 15 year old car), replacing the DV's for BOV's would cause stuttering issues if it wasn't properly tuned for it. Just some food for thought as I'm sure the ECU's in the M177 are way more advanced and sensitive to these kinds of things.

You said it " OLD CARs". our cars do not have the Honeycomb MAF sensors so your statement doesn't apply in our engines. No side effects/Cels/ or problems.


In the test video I accelerated the car and released the gas before shifting so that you guys can hear the valves opening and closing. if you drive normal or even under hard acceleration you will not hear the valves as the car shifts are very fast. In other words; for the valves to release air as strong as in the video you need to build boost and then let go of the gas pedal(close the TB).

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Old Jun 13, 2016 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by JPMBenz
What's the difference with these & the ones on turbokits.com? Turbo Kits were co-developed by Forge.
I have not seen the other ones in person but by looking at the pictures they place a spacer before the valve so air escape as the valves open.


In the Weistec kit the valves stay in place and all you do is replace the hose from the valve to the intake with the plug and adapter
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Old Jun 13, 2016 | 11:42 AM
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What's the difference with these & the ones on turbokits.com? Turbo Kits were co-developed by Forge.
the kits are very diff. with the Turbokits you add their piece below both diverter valves on top of the engine. you don't have to remove or cap any hoses. the weistec kit you work down in the front of the engine and have to remove the hoses and cap the intake off.
seems like they both accomplish the same thing in very different ways. Not sure if there is any benefit on one vs the other, i do think the Weistec are louder.
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I just did this earlier, removed the hoses to hear it, sounds just like in your video but the setup is not as clean. I've gotten a kick out of it tho, and easily able to put the hoses back in.

Its super fun and I'm loving mine. Not an intrusive sound at all.
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Old Jun 13, 2016 | 11:54 AM
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Make sure if you remove the hoses to play around as MATT11212 dad, that you cap the intake pipe. that section of the intake is POST filter so if you suck something in there its going straight into the turbo.
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Old Jun 13, 2016 | 08:36 PM
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Nice I like it, it's not an "in your face" or super loud BOV sound and not that pronounced either and just as I thought it would be with an auto trans if it were a manual there would definitely be more blow off because of the manual pedals shift action - have you noticed any negative effects ?

I do agree with some of what AlexZTuned has stated above but at least this is not one bit as loud or pronounced as aftermarket BOV units which are purposely made with trumpet outlets to make the BOV whoosh as loudly as possible, that is not to my taste either.
AV1, we might get pulled over by Sydney cops thinking the car is a WRX haha...
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Old Jun 14, 2016 | 06:28 AM
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AV1, we might get pulled over by Sydney cops thinking the car is a WRX haha...
LOL that is funny it would be the same situation here in Melbourne but as stated above there's no need to worry about that at all with this mod on your M177/8 and with the auto trans
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Hey guys, so i got the weistec kit for my coupe and im struggling to remove the damn bolts, i think i may have stripped them but i stopped just incase i do more damage, my torx keys are quite old and damaged so im going to buy more tomorrow.

right now ive removed the pipes from the intake and the plastic divertor thing. And blanked off the intake inlets.
now what is the difference between leaving the black plastic bits or replacing them with the spacers. Do the spacers really actually do anything? Or can i leave as is?
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Ugh... that's a no from me... I did that on my 335i coupe back in the day but for a nice car like this... but to each their own, thanks for putting this up for those who want to do it!
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Narcogp I hope all goes well for you. I ordered mine and I am awaiting for it to come in. When you can post a vid of it. I don't think anyone has them or videos atleast of the weistec vta.
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Old Apr 25, 2017 | 10:38 AM
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Okay the new torx wrenches work however i cannot for the life of me reach two of the bolts, there is no room to work at all or Oneven get the trox key in there. Anyone got suggestions?

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Hey guys, so i got the weistec kit for my coupe and im struggling to remove the damn bolts, i think i may have stripped them but i stopped just incase i do more damage, my torx keys are quite old and damaged so im going to buy more tomorrow.

right now ive removed the pipes from the intake and the plastic divertor thing. And blanked off the intake inlets.
now what is the difference between leaving the black plastic bits or replacing them with the spacers. Do the spacers really actually do anything? Or can i leave as is?
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Old Apr 25, 2017 | 01:57 PM
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Show us a picture; and we will be able to help. I did mine super easy. Only two bolts for each
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Old Apr 25, 2017 | 02:08 PM
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I actually gave up and put the pipes back for now
will fit it when i have more time
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