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Is Italy's new challenger, the Giulia QV, ready to take on the best from Germany?

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nobbyv

It's funny: I've seen or read five different versions of this test in assorted magazines/sites (sometimes with the ATS-V thrown in), and I've seen the C63 S finish anywhere from fourth to first.

shoe3k

I'm pretty sure that the c63s coupe is slower than the sedan due to gearing and weight, which makes this comparison even more strange.

See63esS

Take the Giulia off of R Comp Tires and then see how it performs.

Palpatine

I read somewhere that they used the coupe because it is the owner... or one of the owners of CarWow's personal vehicle.

Bluetonic

No, didn't even think it would, but its a good video all the same.

I certainly did'nt buy my car because its the "fastest". Its because of the 3 tested (which I also test drove) I liked the C63S coupe more. The Alpha was a close second and if it wasn't for a history of making cars that fall to bits and the fact I wanted a coupe I would have gone that way.

Bluetonic

They say so in the video and in the car WoW review of the C63S coupe in the same you tube channel.

That aside you could argue its a personal owned car verses 2 press cars.

But really I think these 3 are so close it comes down to personal preference. If you are worried your peers will think less of you because your car gets to 60mph in .3 more of a second than others you are not really buying cars for the right reason.

I wish people were less obsessed about which is best and just buy and enjoy what you like!

Souriall91

well said. What percentage of people actually take their cars to the track? Then to narrow it more, how many of those people are good enough in their car to use it to its full potential where it would matter which car is better. best overall is my concern and time in the shop. I don't want. Warranty baby.

Also, no matter how hard they try, they'll never beat that V8!

Shadwell

So the heaviest car struggles in acceleration (grip), cornering and overcomes its available traction with the most ease....
Seems physics was right after all...
Well that test was worthwhile..


All great cars though....

RDOCA

+1

dcpattie

New blue color for the C63? I like it and hopefully its available on 2018 C63 sedans as well.

AV1

How did you come to that conclusion ? of all the magazine instrumented timed runs I've seen to 100km/h (62mph) the quickest variant was actually the C63S convertible ie. the heaviest of the bunch and most probably due to all that extra weight pushing the rear down more which would provide better traction, the quickest coupe time I've seen to 100km/h is also quicker than the quickest sedan time.

As someone else stated above they vary a lot so take your pick, traction however is the factor everyone agrees on is the problem at getting the best straight line acceleration from a dig with the new C63.

This ^^^

Would like to see exactly the same comparo with all 3 fitted with R comp tyres and I'm positive the results would be different, with proper sticky tyres the C63S coupe manages 0-100km/h in under 4 secs and it's cornering would also be improved

MarkC63

Regardless of the results on the track, you cannot argue with the C63 exhaust note and the emotion that invokes. This makes it a much more enjoyable daily driver than the M3 or the Alfa.

Slowlane

The Giulia is impressive. Car and Driver got 3.6 sec 0 to 60 and 11.9 1/4 mile @ 121 mph. Based on other reviews I'm guessing that there was either something with the C63s or that he wasn't very proficient with it. Other reviews has the C63s coupe doing 3.8 sec 0 to 60 and the 1/4 mile in 12.0 @ 121 mph

Sanch

Is it just me or is this a pretty average/ amateurish review.

I have tried the vbox 0-100 and have got 3.9 or 3.8 never as high as 4.3 lol

They tires were clearly cold and that's why there was no traction. The coupe has the widest tyres out of the cars tested here.

Bluetonic

Once you get to the 4 Sec 0-60 range there are so many factors that can effect performance + or - .5 sec its almost not worth testing. The margins for errors are massive. The wrong tyres, tread, temp, road surface, ambient outside temp, wind speed, engine temp, driver and weight, the list goes on!

A friend of mine used to prep press cars for Honda and I can tell you those cars went through tests our "off the shelf" motors would never see. His team once spent a whole week setting up a Civic Type-R to go out to UK press. Once it was returned it would be fully re-tested before being sent out again.

I think the most important overlooked point in this review is the founder and CEO of Car-Wow could have purchased any of those cars as he is in the trade, has the money and you would think knows a little about cars...

But he went for the C63S coupe. That alone tells a very different story to 0-60 times.

Bespoke88

regardless of the review - the c63s should of won the roll race.... traction shouldnt be an issue when rolling already... its pretty dummy proof to just step down on the pedal while rolling already... and by then the tires should be warmed up as it has done several other testings...

Uga Uga

C63 is selling like hot cakes.
Making a pitch for the competition, more commission ???????
Car sales website ?????
I could be wrong

tscales

Well that's good to know (says the owner of a C63S convertible)

Mike5215

I've been following the Quad on an owner's forum since they started delivering. They've already been a nightmare as far as reliability and build quality goes. Stuff dropping off, audio systems dying, seats and dashes squeaking, infotainment systems freezing, multiple CEL faults, cars that have been in the shop more than on the road.

The history of the car is spotty as well. It was rushed through development in two years (the industry standard is six for a new model). It suffered multiple launch delays, apparently the result of the car failing every crash test it was subjected to. The dealer network is spotty, and product knowledge is non-existent.

It's a sexy car with seductive power and exhaust note, and everyone raves about the chassis. For a press day that's great. For an $80k daily driver, I don't think the car is "there" yet.

E55Jess

When you ear how fast the alfa shift you understand why its thats fast. This transmission is lightgning fast

jimc63s2k16

The car you are describing below sounds like...never mind.

shoe3k

The thing is all cars have their issues and the C63 is far from flawless either. The biggest difference between the two is the network and support that Mercedes has, which is seriously lacking for AR in the US.

AV1

Just picked up and read the latest Aust. Wheels mag instrumented comparo of these 3 (all 3 sedan variants though) ie. Giulia vs M3 vs C63S sedan and guess what...the Giulia came last in exactly the same straight line performance comparisons, ie. 0-100km/h and 1/4 mile as what was done on Carwow.

Just goes to show these comparos are always all over the place and inconsistent.

BTW they still chose the Giulia as their overall pic, main drawback of the C63S sedan (which came in 2nd) was harsh all round ride, ie, poor everyday driveability/comfort.

All judges agreed the M3 was a distant 3rd although its acceleration performance was identical to the C63S sedan.