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Old Apr 26, 2020 | 04:16 AM
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Eibach Pro Kit and Tire Wear

Hey guys, im thinking about lowering my car w/ the Eibach Pro Kit but i keep hearing people say tire wear and the alignment will be messed up. So my question is... if i just drive this car as a daily driver and not really track it will it really wear out tires that fast? and when people say under 12k miles.. is that cause you track it? or is that normal day to day driving. sorry im such a noob at this.

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Old Apr 26, 2020 | 10:03 AM
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I have them on mine and the wear has been even. I think 12k miles on a set of tyres is optimistic regardless whether you have lowering springs or not. Unless you're really driving like a Prius owner - In which case you probably should have bought a Prius.
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Old Apr 26, 2020 | 11:53 AM
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awesome! you didnt have to get the KMAC camber kit right? just straight up springs and alignment? to be honest i was thinking of replacing them every year anyways..
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Old Apr 28, 2020 | 02:29 PM
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I didn't get the camber kit. My geo was a little out of spec but within a fair tolerance. I've not noticed undue wear or any change in handling so happy as is.
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Old Apr 29, 2020 | 10:59 AM
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You're gonna get 3K miles on the front tires with lowering without the K-Mac bushings. Get the front kit if you lower it. Or enjoy replacing tires every 3K miles.
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Old Apr 29, 2020 | 02:15 PM
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I'm still on my factory fronts at 8k miles and they're wearing evenly. As are a friend's with exactly the same setup.
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Old Apr 29, 2020 | 02:24 PM
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every 3k? holy crap bro. is that daily driving? or you taking it to the track and doing insane donuts.. i bought my car with 14k miles stock. and the tires still good to go. the guy that owned it before only drove it on the weekend lol
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Old Apr 30, 2020 | 12:04 AM
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I'm curious if the guys who say they have even tire wear are looking at the very inside edge on each of the fronts. Getting down on your knees and looking at the tread, it might appear that they're wearing evenly until you see your car on the lift and notice the inside edge of each tire is eaten away. Not saying that is what is happening, it just can be deceiving .
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Old Apr 30, 2020 | 12:07 AM
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what is the normal camber anyways. -1.5? then if you drop it -2.5?
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Old Apr 30, 2020 | 01:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Bemads
what is the normal camber anyways. -1.5? then if you drop it -2.5?
The factory front camber spec. Is around -1.5. My guess, the Eibach pro kit probably only drop about 1”. So that might be not enough to mess up your cambers. I has my BMW M4 lowered with Eibach pro kit drop to about .8”. I took the car in BMW dealer to do the alignment and it didn’t have cambers issue at all.
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Old Apr 30, 2020 | 09:54 AM
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I'm curious if the guys who say they have even tire wear are looking at the very inside edge on each of the fronts. Getting down on your knees and looking at the tread, it might appear that they're wearing evenly until you see your car on the lift and notice the inside edge of each tire is eaten away. Not saying that is what is happening, it just can be deceiving .
Yes, the inside edges. They're wearing at roughly the same rate as the rest of the tyre. I think the Eibach springs only offer a minimal drop - so don't affect negative camber as much as the H&S springs or KW adjustable ones.
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Old Apr 30, 2020 | 03:19 PM
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Hey guys, thought it would be helpful for somebody that has a C 63, with lowering springs, and is about to install the K-mac kit this coming Tuesday at the dealer to chime in. My H&R springs claim to lower the car .8 inches. That is the perfect drop and I love it so far. That said, the amount of negative camber is beyond noticeable (I just lowered it recently so I don't mean tire wear, I mean visibly noticeable tilting in at the top). I'll know for sure Tuesday exactly how much but anyone that says abnormal tire where won't occur without the camber kit is definitely mistaken. Without any adjustment bushings, a .8 inch drop makes the negative camber, meaning the top of the tire pointing inward, on both front and rear very, very noticeable. At over $400 a tire including installed for a PS4 Michelin, the kit just made sense to me. I'll post next week what my exact alignment specs were before and after adjustment with a new kit installed. Hope this helps some
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Old Apr 30, 2020 | 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Bemads
every 3k? holy crap bro. is that daily driving? or you taking it to the track and doing insane donuts.. i bought my car with 14k miles stock. and the tires still good to go. the guy that owned it before only drove it on the weekend lol
Not daily driving, it's a weekend car. No donuts and no tracks, just regular driving on the street. Mine was lowered on KW HAS, i could visibly see the negative camber in front, and the allignment shop could not get it close to factory. I drive the car for couple months and my front PS4s were completely down to the wire on the very inside of the front tires. ~3K miles. They were new PS4s that I had bought for all 4 corners, the rear were still fine I did not have any accelerated wear on the inside of the rears. I had K-MAC kit installed, and the alignment specs were able to hit factory setting and I'm pretty low.. Now I have even wear on the front tires going on 7K miles no issues.

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I'm curious if the guys who say they have even tire wear are looking at the very inside edge on each of the fronts. Getting down on your knees and looking at the tread, it might appear that they're wearing evenly until you see your car on the lift and notice the inside edge of each tire is eaten away. Not saying that is what is happening, it just can be deceiving .
Exactly this, i never noticed till I had my car on the lift at the dealer for service and they said you need new front tires, the inside are down to the cords... In 3K miles i never noticed because the outside tread was almost new..
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Old Apr 30, 2020 | 09:49 PM
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Not daily driving, it's a weekend car. No donuts and no tracks, just regular driving on the street. Mine was lowered on KW HAS, i could visibly see the negative camber in front, and the allignment shop could not get it close to factory. I drive the car for couple months and my front PS4s were completely down to the wire on the very inside of the front tires. ~3K miles. They were new PS4s that I had bought for all 4 corners, the rear were still fine I did not have any accelerated wear on the inside of the rears. I had K-MAC kit installed, and the alignment specs were able to hit factory setting and I'm pretty low.. Now I have even wear on the front tires going on 7K miles no issues.



Exactly this, i never noticed till I had my car on the lift at the dealer for service and they said you need new front tires, the inside are down to the cords... In 3K miles i never noticed because the outside tread was almost new..
We’re car guys, so we speak the same language 😄. You don’t need to jack up the car. Rear tires, you can see it from behind. Front tires, just turn the wheel all the way to one side and drive it slowly and have someone else check it for you
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Originally Posted by 507AMG
Hey guys, thought it would be helpful for somebody that has a C 63, with lowering springs, and is about to install the K-mac kit this coming Tuesday at the dealer to chime in. My H&R springs claim to lower the car .8 inches. That is the perfect drop and I love it so far. That said, the amount of negative camber is beyond noticeable (I just lowered it recently so I don't mean tire wear, I mean visibly noticeable tilting in at the top). I'll know for sure Tuesday exactly how much but anyone that says abnormal tire where won't occur without the camber kit is definitely mistaken. Without any adjustment bushings, a .8 inch drop makes the negative camber, meaning the top of the tire pointing inward, on both front and rear very, very noticeable. At over $400 a tire including installed for a PS4 Michelin, the kit just made sense to me. I'll post next week what my exact alignment specs were before and after adjustment with a new kit installed. Hope this helps some
​​​​​​Is the kmac kit needed for front and back or just front?

​​​​​​Can someone post a link to what is needed from kmac? I'm just curious what the cost is (and might order).
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Old May 9, 2020 | 12:04 AM
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I just lowered the car today on these Springs. I don’t think I’m gonna get the kmac bushings. The springs don’t even lower the car that much. The car still looks stock to me
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The car still looks stock to me
Lol .., take some pics
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Old May 9, 2020 | 12:55 AM
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here you go i can take better pics tomorrow
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That’s a dropped. That look about right for Eibach pro kit
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Old May 9, 2020 | 01:14 AM
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Yeah I’m happy with it. For some reason I was thinking it would be a little lower lol. Looks like hr springs are dropping them so much more
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H&R are alway known to drop more.
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On Eibachs website they say that the springs will drop -1.2 in the front and -1.0 in the rear. Are we saying that with this drop there will be no need for bushings and what not?
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On the amg it only drops 0.8 in the front 0.4 in the back its not much. my tech guy who installed it said theres not even a need for an alignment because it didn't drop that much. but he would just do it just cause
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On the amg it only drops 0.8 in the front 0.4 in the back its not much. my tech guy who installed it said theres not even a need for an alignment because it didn't drop that much. but he would just do it just cause
those numbers are for the C63 I got from their website.

I just double checked. those numbers i posted are for the coupe. hm so it looks like the coupe gets dropped significantly more than the sedan in which case id imagine a camber kit would become necessary
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oh wow that totally makes sense. people that say they dont need kmac bushings are probably sedan owners. and people that say tire wear is significant are probably coupe owners.. LOL
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