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Old May 21, 2020 | 04:51 AM
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Start to my 1000hp c63s build

Hey guys I just picked up my dream car at the age of 24! It’s fast and cool but I’m gonna make it way faster and way cooler! Welcome to my build!

car is 2018 c63s 8k miles (has every option available from factory besides race seats!)

First mods done:

Chrome delete grille and door handle and wrap the roof in gloss black

Debadged rear (amg, c63s) logo

Gloss black replacement v8 biturbo and trunk Mercedes logo.

KW H.A.S coil overs

12mm rear spacers

15 mm front spacers

Mode carbon: front lip, Rear defuser, bootlid spoiler

RW carbon: side skirts and mirror caps

Will update pictures in the next week or 2 once the carbon is done being installed!

I’m knocking out all exterior mods first then turning to the engine. The future build will be

Pure 900 turbos

Custom fabricated 3.5 inch cat back exhaust (straight pipe)

Custom fabricated catless down pipes

Intercooler

Pro meth methanol kit

Weistec carbon airbox

Wider front and rear tires (thinking 305 rears 265 fronts )

Dyno Comp transmission tune

Dyno Comp 2 map ecu tune (100 octane tune, 91 octane tune)

Feel free to comment or PM me any questions, tips or tricks! I will be posting pictures updating the car as she comes along!

Thanks


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Old May 21, 2020 | 08:08 AM
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Hay mate , congrats on getting the car so young.

Best bet would be to chat to you tuner and get an idea about what would be achievable with what equipment.

I haven’t heard of anyone hitting 1000hp with the pure 900”s but this doesn’t mean it hasn’t been done!

I’m a big fan of the pure 900”s so would recommend them to anyone unless they want to go for 1000hp plus , your only option after that would the the Weistec W4 (since yabeela has turned to ****) which I think realistically with your power goals would be a better bet.

You may also want to look at the Spool HPFP upgrade , this will allow you to run high E content fuel , you don’t want to be rolling around on race gas 24/7 !

lastly get the biggest semi slicks you can get on the back of the car , I’ve got 295 R888r on the back and they still struggle with traction !

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Old May 21, 2020 | 08:24 AM
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Best of luck. Are custom fab exhaust and downpipes really necessary, the downpipes are available off the shelf and the exhaust is straight through all the way to the back box. It might be really bad drone wise without the back box, which you can bypass anyway. Maybe just a new switchable back box that lets even more noise through, but you'll be glad you can switch it off when cruising.
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Old May 21, 2020 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by J3WISH
Hey guys I just picked up my dream car at the age of 24! It’s fast and cool but I’m gonna make it way faster and way cooler! Welcome to my build!

car is 2018 c63s 8k miles (has every option available from factory besides race seats!)

First mods done:

Chrome delete grille and door handle and wrap the roof in gloss black

Debadged rear (amg, c63s) logo

Gloss black replacement v8 biturbo and trunk Mercedes logo.

KW H.A.S coil overs

12mm rear spacers

15 mm front spacers

Mode carbon: front lip, Rear defuser, bootlid spoiler

RW carbon: side skirts and mirror caps

Will update pictures in the next week or 2 once the carbon is done being installed!

I’m knocking out all exterior mods first then turning to the engine. The future build will be

Pure 900 turbos

Custom fabricated 3.5 inch cat back exhaust (straight pipe)

Custom fabricated catless down pipes

Intercooler

Pro meth methanol kit

Weistec carbon airbox

Wider front and rear tires (thinking 305 rears 265 fronts )

Dyno Comp transmission tune

Dyno Comp 2 map ecu tune (100 octane tune, 91 octane tune)

Feel free to comment or PM me any questions, tips or tricks! I will be posting pictures updating the car as she comes along!

Thanks
very versed in the AMG tuning world, never heard of Dyno Comp. Do you have any links or info? Where are they located?
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Old May 21, 2020 | 12:09 PM
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1000 is a huge stretch on 900’s
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Old May 21, 2020 | 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Wexlax732
very versed in the AMG tuning world, never heard of Dyno Comp. Do you have any links or info? Where are they located?
they are here in AZ
https://dynocomp.com/
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Old May 21, 2020 | 01:09 PM
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I doubt the engine would last long with 1000bhp, or the gearbox, diff, driveshafts, etc.

That's the headline figure I'm expecting on my 911 turbo and the modifications to get there is pretty extensive, fully forged, ported, syvecs, twin Alpha3076, bored, stroked, GT2RS gearbox, 2wd conversion, level 5 axles, meth inj, flexfuel. I really need straight cut gears, but I don't want the whine in a road car so I'll detune it a bit. Just slapping turbos on and a remap is asking for trouble. You'll have a faster car if you keep it driveable, don't go for the pub number.
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Old May 21, 2020 | 01:42 PM
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what is the point of 1000hp on this car? You will spin out in every gear
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Old May 21, 2020 | 03:00 PM
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How do you plan to get to 1000 HP?
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Old May 21, 2020 | 03:31 PM
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what is the point of 1000hp on this car? You will spin out in every gear
maybe he will put some ole fatty slicks on it ? :-)
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Old May 21, 2020 | 05:39 PM
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Good luck with your goals mate enjoy
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Old May 21, 2020 | 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by SimMB
I doubt the engine would last long with 1000bhp, or the gearbox, diff, driveshafts, etc.

That's the headline figure I'm expecting on my 911 turbo and the modifications to get there is pretty extensive, fully forged, ported, syvecs, twin Alpha3076, bored, stroked, GT2RS gearbox, 2wd conversion, level 5 axles, meth inj, flexfuel. I really need straight cut gears, but I don't want the whine in a road car so I'll detune it a bit. Just slapping turbos on and a remap is asking for trouble. You'll have a faster car if you keep it driveable, don't go for the pub number.
I didn't wanna seem like a troll or a grump, but yea, like you said, 1000 hp on an AMG motor is likely cost-prohibitive. This isn't a car that you can just throw on huge turbos, a fuel controller, and turn up the boost. Most cars that are capable of those type of hp figures require about 30K - 40K in work to come CLOSE (800s-900s). And getting to the 900+ mark means a FULLY built motor. A good example is Underground Racing, that hold several records. Look at their pricing, starting with a V10 motor already making close to 600hp in factory form: https://www.undergroundracing.com/in...audi-r8-v10-tt

Maybe you have deep pockets, and can drop $50K in a car you likely picked up for around $60K. But more than likely, I think your appetite exceeded your funds in this endeavor, Feel free to put your money where your mouth is, and make me put my foot in my mouth though
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Old May 21, 2020 | 07:12 PM
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I mispoke

I’m going for 1000 crank. Soo give or take 750-800rwhp which is very possible on race gas with meth!
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Old May 21, 2020 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by SimMB
Best of luck. Are custom fab exhaust and downpipes really necessary, the downpipes are available off the shelf and the exhaust is straight through all the way to the back box. It might be really bad drone wise without the back box, which you can bypass anyway. Maybe just a new switchable back box that lets even more noise through, but you'll be glad you can switch it off when cruising.
soo there is a customer fabrication guys here in Scottsdale that doo a lot of the downpipes that come through Dyno Comp. I’d just rather support local then buy online. They’re all the same for the most part!
as far as exhaust I’d be adding almost an inch to the entire exhaust from 2.75 to 3.5 which will help with airflow and turbos! It will also sound great. If it ends up being too loud I’ll throw on some mufflers and cut outs!
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Old May 21, 2020 | 07:20 PM
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Best of luck. Are custom fab exhaust and downpipes really necessary, the downpipes are available off the shelf and the exhaust is straight through all the way to the back box. It might be really bad drone wise without the back box, which you can bypass anyway. Maybe just a new switchable back box that lets even more noise through, but you'll be glad you can switch it off when cruising.
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I didn't wanna seem like a troll or a grump, but yea, like you said, 1000 hp on an AMG motor is likely cost-prohibitive. This isn't a car that you can just throw on huge turbos, a fuel controller, and turn up the boost. Most cars that are capable of those type of hp figures require about 30K - 40K in work to come CLOSE (800s-900s). And getting to the 900+ mark means a FULLY built motor. A good example is Underground Racing, that hold several records. Look at their pricing, starting with a V10 motor already making close to 600hp in factory form: https://www.undergroundracing.com/in...audi-r8-v10-tt

Maybe you have deep pockets, and can drop $50K in a car you likely picked up for around $60K. But more than likely, I think your appetite exceeded your funds in this endeavor, Feel free to put your money where your mouth is, and make me put my foot in my mouth though
I completely misspoke and was thinking 1000 crank! Going for a safe 700-800 rwhp!
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Old May 21, 2020 | 07:21 PM
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very versed in the AMG tuning world, never heard of Dyno Comp. Do you have any links or info? Where are they located?
tuning shop here in Scottsdale! They do in-house tunes and one of the top tuner shops in the country!
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Good luck with the build man! I think you'll need to go with turbos bigger than the Pure900 kit to get your 1000hp goal at the crank consistently / reliably. Also might want to do some research on pure turbos exploding and sending shrapnel through your engine bay/exhaust lol if tuned by someone who doesn't know what they're doing. You'll need a tcu tune, and possibly upgraded clutch packs too. Upgraded intercoolers, plus the meth but looks like you have that covered.

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Old May 22, 2020 | 09:01 AM
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To the OP...good luck with your build

The only thing I would add is once you get above 800hp at the crank...you may want to add a clutch rebuild for the tranny. IDK but that is what I have heard. I am at around 650 at the crank and have no problems (knock on wood) but I do not 1/4 mile my car. Mainly street driving and I do 1/2 mile race it 3 times a year at NFZ.
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"defuser" lol.
"Defuser" are worth at-least 100-150hp...
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Old May 22, 2020 | 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by J3WISH
I’m going for 1000 crank. Soo give or take 750-800rwhp which is very possible on race gas with meth!
Everything will feel fast on meth.....

Oh wait, thats not what you meant.

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Old May 23, 2020 | 10:40 PM
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Let this young man live his young dream! More power to you hoss!

Agreed......Hey he has big dreams nothing wrong with it lol
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Old May 24, 2020 | 03:04 PM
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1000bhp crank will still need rods, once you open it up, its open wallet surgery..

You'll need bigger rails, fuel pump, probably lines too. Maybe E63s pistons. C63 headers are small bore, you'll need bigger. Get it ported if opening up. Standard intercoolers won't be big enough. Then there's cooling, bigger rads.

This is why I reckon you're best getting an E63 lump, chill cast, bigger oil pump, low comp pistons, headers, rails etc. You'll still need rods though. Swap all the bits over and offset cost by selling your C63 block.

Good luck with the build. To be honest, this isn't the platform for 1000hp. It's a jumped up family car, get a proper sports car!

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Originally Posted by FDNewbie
Interesting. Can you visually tell the fuel pump has been changed in any way by brief visual inspection of the engine bay? Or do you have to start removing covers etc to tell it's modified?

Also, your website states you can provide "calibration details to your existing tuner." So I'm assuming the FP can be easily controlled via an ECU tune; no aftermarket controller or ECU required, correct?
Below are a couple of pics of the install I’m working through currently

You are correct about not needing an aftermarket controller. Ajay sends the DME changes and your turner applies them to your tune file



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Ah. So won't pass visual inspection. Thanks for the pics. Choices......
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