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Old May 25, 2021 | 01:23 PM
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Hey everyone!! Looking to buy my first AMG car soon! (Need a fast Dad mobile - currently drive a manual 5.0 Mustang and I love it - but I want something more Dad like and of course - faster). I'm a HUGE enthusiast and am looking into the C63s. (Also into a new CLA 45 or C43 - we'll see) My budget is between $55-70k.

Definitely want the Facelift (digital dash, 9 speed, bigger screen and grille) and curious on the differences between the base and the S. From what i'm seeing right now on Cars.com (and obviously RIGHT NOW is insane with prices - im not actually buying a car until August or so), a used base is around 59-64k whereas the S are 69-77k.

Is the S worth the extra money? I'll likely track my car a few times a year, race mode seems enticing for the exhaust pops and bangs but other than that this is my DAILY. So wondering if the extra money for the S makes sense.

To those who have driven the two - can you tell a difference?

Also - how does the new CLA45 drive? Love the look of them (obviously the 4-cylinder is not ideal) but they intrigue me...

If i were to get the C63 - it's probably something i would keep for a VERY long time where as the CLA45 would probably be a 2-4 year car...
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Old May 25, 2021 | 01:37 PM
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You can read another post for the answer regarding s vs non s.
https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-c63s-...3-vs-c63s.html
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Old May 25, 2021 | 03:44 PM
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The thread above is a good start. There are also a couple of other threads where this very question has been answered before. But in a nutshell, the S has more power, bigger brakes, dynamic engine mounts, 9-stage traction control from the GT R, Race mode, Track Pace and AMG Drive Unit standard, higher top speed, optional carbon ceramic brakes and a few more standard options. I might be forgetting something, but those are the big items.

Yes, the S is worth it for the 9-stage TC alone, especially if you plan to track it. The dynamic engine mounts also make a difference for daily driving comfort vs tight response when driving dynamically. They make for a more comfortable daily drive, while offering tight coupling when you take it for a romp.
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Old May 25, 2021 | 05:15 PM
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Agree with superswiss about the 9 stage traction alone is worth it.
For me if I'm already spending this much cash on a car second hand or not I pay that little bit more for top range model especially if its not just cosmetic upgrades.
Plus with the S u get bragging rights
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Old May 25, 2021 | 05:31 PM
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I have a 2019 so it's been a few years but if I recall, after factoring in features standard on an S that are cost options on a non-S, the price difference was really not much. IMO the S is worth it for the additional hardware upgrades like dynamic engine mounts and brakes, unless you plan to do a lot of upgrades yourself.

If you're considering the coupe, another thing to keep in mind is that from the factory, the S has an option for 19/20 wheels whereas the non-S is 19 all around. It's swappable it's also one more thing to do.
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Old May 25, 2021 | 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by phoenixblue
I have a 2019 so it's been a few years but if I recall, after factoring in features standard on an S that are cost options on a non-S, the price difference was really not much. IMO the S is worth it for the additional hardware upgrades like dynamic engine mounts and brakes, unless you plan to do a lot of upgrades yourself.

If you're considering the coupe, another thing to keep in mind is that from the factory, the S has an option for 19/20 wheels whereas the non-S is 19 all around. It's swappable it's also one more thing to do.
Indeed, the initial price difference seems somewhat high around $9k if I remember correctly, but once you start loading it up, the difference shrinks to around $4k excluding the expensive CCB option that you can get on the S, but nonetheless. At that point it's pretty much a no-brainer for the hardware upgrades you get. I forgot about the staggered 19/20 wheels, but yes certain options are only available on the S and the S is higher spec'd in general, for example it comes standard with Napa leather interior whereas the non-S is MB-Tex.
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Old May 25, 2021 | 10:44 PM
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Seems like S it is.

Hypothetical:

Base for $60 or S for $68 is worth the extra?

I think i've made up my mind...
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Originally Posted by Zachary Hess
Seems like S it is.

Hypothetical:

Base for $60 or S for $68 is worth the extra?

I think i've made up my mind...
I would say that depends. If that non-S for $60 is a base model with almost no options then yes, but with a fairly equally optioned S factoring in the extra cost options such as Napa leather for the non-S the difference should be closer to $4k, unless the S has the carbon ceramic brakes. On the other hand the S does seem to hold its value better than the non-S from what I've heard, so I guess you need to factor that in as well, which means that you'll be able to most likely sell it at a comparatively higher value when the time comes.
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The 63S is indeed a great car - as is the 43 (I have both 2021) -- however I would also recommend that you assure you find the car optioned the way you want. You can easily add 10K in options in these cars, and in my opinion the majority of the options are must have. My two cars are optioned quite the same -- the only options I think you should spend money elsewhere with are: carbon ceramic brakes, exterior carbon pack, & exterior aero package.....uncheck those three and make sure you get the rest because they're well worth it and make the drive much more enjoyable. (multibeam LED headlights, heads up display, park assist, driver assist, interior carbon trim, night package, AMG seats, carbon wheel, paint options, NFC wireless phone charger, etc are all must haves IMO) And whatever you do, get the coupe!! I've started taking a few videos of the two cars side by side for comparison - plan on posting some of the first videos today.

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And whatever you do, get the coupe!! I've started taking a few videos of the two cars side by side for comparison - plan on posting some of the first videos today.
Why the coupe ?
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Old May 26, 2021 | 11:09 AM
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Why the coupe ?
Personal preference of course, however I think the coupe has a better resale value, is more sought after, and everyone knows it's a few tenths quicker Sports cars should have 2 doors, coupe is a timeless design! (again, IMO of course) Edit -- I absolutely agree it's no fun to put passengers in the coupe - I don't do it often!
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Old May 26, 2021 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by djprov431
Personal preference of course, however I think the coupe has a better resale value, is more sought after, and everyone knows it's a few tenths quicker Sports cars should have 2 doors, coupe is a timeless design! (again, IMO of course) Edit -- I absolutely agree it's no fun to put passengers in the coupe - I don't do it often!
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yea I have a c63s Sedan, and as well got my girl (well now Ex-Girl) a c43 sedan ..
when it comes down to which is quicker sedan or coupe, its not really measurable in real world, or even track (drag maybe but who really cares) - for that matter, yes it all comes down to personal preferences...
I track the crap out of my cars and have yet to be saying or thinking ... " darn, I could have beat the lap record if I was in a coupe vs my sedan " lol

As for the "tracking" of the car on the track, the coupe (having a shorter wheel base - min) would help in certain areas, but I like the longer wheelbase, and is fun as hell since we are RearWheel (c63s) vs the AWD on c43 . 2 different ways of driving fast.

And numbers on paper dont mean anything, weight distribution is different in both types, and a larger person might be well served in the sedan vs coupe and Vis Versa..

In the end.. lets Drive !!
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Old May 26, 2021 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by FLC63s
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yea I have a c63s Sedan, and as well got my girl (well now Ex-Girl) a c43 sedan ..
when it comes down to which is quicker sedan or coupe, its not really measurable in real world, or even track (drag maybe but who really cares) - for that matter, yes it all comes down to personal preferences...
I track the crap out of my cars and have yet to be saying or thinking ... " darn, I could have beat the lap record if I was in a coupe vs my sedan " lol

As for the "tracking" of the car on the track, the coupe (having a shorter wheel base - min) would help in certain areas, but I like the longer wheelbase, and is fun as hell since we are RearWheel (c63s) vs the AWD on c43 . 2 different ways of driving fast.

And numbers on paper dont mean anything, weight distribution is different in both types, and a larger person might be well served in the sedan vs coupe and Vis Versa..

In the end.. lets Drive !!
Well said indeed
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Old May 27, 2021 | 05:41 AM
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Yes, the S is worth it for the 9-stage TC alone, especially if you plan to track it.
+1 to this and I agree 100%

As someone with a PFL and 3 stage TC, I have very little adjustability. Full on, sport, and full off....which leaves a lot to be desired. I'd kill for a setting that let's you spin the wheels a bit more and still gives a bit of protection against going into the barriers.
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Old May 31, 2021 | 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by djprov431
The 63S is indeed a great car - as is the 43 (I have both 2021) -- however I would also recommend that you assure you find the car optioned the way you want. You can easily add 10K in options in these cars, and in my opinion the majority of the options are must have. My two cars are optioned quite the same -- the only options I think you should spend money elsewhere with are: carbon ceramic brakes, exterior carbon pack, & exterior aero package.....uncheck those three and make sure you get the rest because they're well worth it and make the drive much more enjoyable. (multibeam LED headlights, heads up display, park assist, driver assist, interior carbon trim, night package, AMG seats, carbon wheel, paint options, NFC wireless phone charger, etc are all must haves IMO) And whatever you do, get the coupe!! I've started taking a few videos of the two cars side by side for comparison - plan on posting some of the first videos today.
Appreciate the insight! I am gonna get the sedan! I have a baby on the way and need to get rid of my 5.0 Mustang - which has been AWESOME! I honestly kind of love the sedan look - the coupe looks unreal in the magno finishes but as a whole the sedan stands out for me.
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The members of this forum, especially Superswiss know way more than I do in comparing the S to the non S. I too was not sure which model to order. I ended up going with the C63s. Think of it this way; if you get an S model, you will never question yourself of why you went with the S. On the other hand, if you go with the non S, you will always be wondering.
Just my 2 cents opinion
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Appreciate the insight! I am gonna get the sedan! I have a baby on the way and need to get rid of my 5.0 Mustang - which has been AWESOME! I honestly kind of love the sedan look - the coupe looks unreal in the magno finishes but as a whole the sedan stands out for me.
Totally agree -- no way you would ever do a baby seat without driving yourself insane in the coupe - access to the rear isn't what I would call easy! Congrats on the decision and race baby!
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