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Old Aug 17, 2007 | 01:22 PM
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CL65 40th Anniversary Edition Alubeam Paint

A special edition CL65 with Alubeam paint will be available to only 40 people. Go to performance studio and select vehicles.

First person to get one please post some pictures so we can see this bad boy in a real life setting and not the glamor photos of this paint they have given us.

They call the look a 'liquid metal', reminds me of that dude in Terminator 2

http://www.mercedes-amg.com/index2.html
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Old Aug 17, 2007 | 03:19 PM
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Car is going to be sick. One of the few Mercedes that will hopefully retain some value.

I'm guessing at least 5 will be headed to California. Even the IWC CLS55 which only had 55 cars, approximately 5 ended up in CA (that i'm aware of, i'm probably wrong)

The CLK DTM w208 and w209 and hopefully the black series will end up as great collector's items.
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Old Aug 17, 2007 | 04:42 PM
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Old Aug 18, 2007 | 01:54 AM
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Video of this car (posted here before)

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i kind of feel bad for the guy because he obviously knows a lot about the car and wants to present the car properly, but his limited english skills force him to repeat phrases like "i think its very special" and "its very nice" over and over.
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Old Aug 18, 2007 | 03:00 AM
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Anyone else find it kind of... ridiculous the anniversary edition doesn't come with anymore firepower then just a regular CL65?

Because I'm pretty sure it will come with a bigger price...
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Old Aug 18, 2007 | 03:45 PM
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Anyone else find it kind of... ridiculous the anniversary edition doesn't come with anymore firepower then just a regular CL65?

Because I'm pretty sure it will come with a bigger price...
The 65 engine is limited to the torque that the strongest MB transmission can take. It's trivial to increase torque/HP but they wouldn't do it unless they had a stronger transmission.

On the other hand, if they managed to strenghten the tranny but only made it available in a limited edition like this, there would be hell to pay from all the other 65 owners. I would be part of that backlash, for instance.

They really need a stronger gearbox so they can unleash the other 100-150 HP they're leaving on the table.
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Old Aug 18, 2007 | 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by whoover
The 65 engine is limited to the torque that the strongest MB transmission can take. It's trivial to increase torque/HP but they wouldn't do it unless they had a stronger transmission.

On the other hand, if they managed to strenghten the tranny but only made it available in a limited edition like this, there would be hell to pay from all the other 65 owners. I would be part of that backlash, for instance.

They really need a stronger gearbox so they can unleash the other 100-150 HP they're leaving on the table.
Ok, so partner with Brabus. It's quite obvious Brabus has figured it out, with their SV12s and all...

It doesn't even have to be Brabus. I'm sure they can put more power down, they're just too damn lazy. If they gave a damn, they would have found a stronger tranny. Period.
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Old Aug 19, 2007 | 04:16 AM
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Exclamation Talk to Vadim, after his mods a 65 can be unleased

According to Vadim, after his recommended Renntech and custom mods, a 65 can be unleased to much more than just 100 to 150 horsepower over stock. Way over 800 is easily reachable, and probably way over 1,000 lb/ft of torque. He will have to do some serious strengthening work on the transmission though first.

Once you do a little modifying of the engine (bigger turbo's, ported/polished engine internals) to complement the usual 65 upgrades like headers-back exhaust, ECU/TCU, airbox, larger engine cooler, etc.. then over 900 is possible.


Vadim, how high can it go?
Fender-widening to put Murcielago/Enzo size rear tires is gonna be a must!!
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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 05:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Exodus
Ok, so partner with Brabus. It's quite obvious Brabus has figured it out, with their SV12s and all...

It doesn't even have to be Brabus. I'm sure they can put more power down, they're just too damn lazy. If they gave a damn, they would have found a stronger tranny. Period.
Why would they do that and ruin the appeal of the AMG cars in the first place? Lazy? Mercedes-Benz? Come on guy, a Brabus car is likely much higher strung than a AMG and they want to keep it that way so when you guys race these cars they don't pop their guts all over the track. What does being lazy have to do with putting down more power with an engine so tuneable as the 6L V12 in the 65 cars, the lower hp/tq numbers are done on purpose. They'd have to develop a stronger tranny just for a few cars, doesn't make sense cost wise. MB is already leading the industry in torque this side of a Bugatti. Certain Bentleys have the same torque rating and they use a ZF box something MB isn't going to do since they build and design all their own transmissions.

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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Exodus
Anyone else find it kind of... ridiculous the anniversary edition doesn't come with anymore firepower then just a regular CL65?

Because I'm pretty sure it will come with a bigger price...
A much bigger price, particularly if one should be so foolish as to put a scratch in the Terminator paint. Snob appeal never comes cheap.

But I'm digging the interior...only can I have curly maple instead of carbon fiber?

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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 08:39 PM
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Unbelievable. If there going to go to the extent to create a "limited edition" CL65, to celebrate their 40th annv. or whatnot, they should have known most people want more then just a lousey interior.

Dude, how would more power ruin the appeal of the CL65? That's just plain ridiculous. The power in the 65s *IS* the appeal, guy. Let me tell you, this CL65 is NOTHING more then a new way Mercedes-Benz has concocted to rip us off. What does lazy have to do with it? Well, they are too lazy to find a new transmission or build a new one able to control this power, even for their S.E CL65, so they hope that people like--you-- will look past the same ol' 65 engine, and pay the extra 40+gs for a new shiney paint job.

In order to differ from the pack, I would (were I Mercedes) spend the extra buck or two to up the power, even if it comes at loss-- why not? It's THE CL65 of CL65s. It should be special in more ways then just the "Terminator" paint job, wouldn't you agree?
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 07:58 AM
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Who said more power would ruin the CL65? No where did I say that. I said that collaborating with Brabus could damage AMG as a while. You seem to have no regard for what went into the car in its current state of tune to begin with. It isn't as simple as finding a new tranny and building a totally new one, design/testing it for for such limited production wouldn't be costly. We're talking 40 cars here. No one in their right mind is going to commission a new transmission for such a short production run. The CL65 Anniversary edition isn't going to be 40K over the regular CL65 so what are you talking about? The CL65 already smokes any other similar car and some non-similar ones to begin with and lastly this "paint job" you're talking about is mega expensive to begin with.

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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 01:14 PM
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I dont know what the premium over the 'regular' Cl65 is going to be, but for me that interior is worth it alone. The diamond quilted and padded stitching on the doors and seats is superb and is normally found only in Mulliner Bentleys. The paint is also phenomenal,the technological progress of Merc-Benz over other car makers is evident here. As for the engine, I think most people would agree that the 'old' 65 engine aint so bad. Having driven a 65 and a 700 BHP Kleemann SL I can say that any horsepower over 610 is pointless if the car cant put it down, which the 65 struggles to do with 610BHP and a Diff with 30% slip!!

However if 610 isnt enough, It would be as easy as simply remapping the ECU to unleash an extra 40BHP, which even just for marketing purposes , could have been easily achieved, and this does make Merc seem a bit 'Lazy' in a way....
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 06:24 PM
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Exclusivity

My last correspondence with AMG suggested that the Alubeam paint was not being placed into production yet due to the difficulty of repairing/repainting it if damaged. So exclusivity might be that if you damage it that you have to replace all the body panels. Now that is some privilege.
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 07:10 PM
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I dont know what the premium over the 'regular' Cl65 is going to be, but for me that interior is worth it alone. The diamond quilted and padded stitching on the doors and seats is superb and is normally found only in Mulliner Bentleys. The paint is also phenomenal,the technological progress of Merc-Benz over other car makers is evident here. As for the engine, I think most people would agree that the 'old' 65 engine aint so bad. Having driven a 65 and a 700 BHP Kleemann SL I can say that any horsepower over 610 is pointless if the car cant put it down, which the 65 struggles to do with 610BHP and a Diff with 30% slip!!

However if 610 isnt enough, It would be as easy as simply remapping the ECU to unleash an extra 40BHP, which even just for marketing purposes , could have been easily achieved, and this does make Merc seem a bit 'Lazy' in a way....
The diamond quilting is standard for 2008.
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 07:10 PM
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i kind of feel bad for the guy because he obviously knows a lot about the car and wants to present the car properly, but his limited english skills force him to repeat phrases like "i think its very special" and "its very nice" over and over.
I noticed that as well. He seems pretty excited about the car, but he just can't put it into words (English) very well.
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 11:43 PM
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Ok bro, go pay the extra couple thousand for a new (now standard) interior and an ugly (but I guess expensive) paint job. Frankly, I could care less about that crap. My father happens to own a '05 CL65 and I'll take it, black on black, anyday over this over-priced CL65 Mercedes has put out just to rip people like you off.

I didn't mean Brabus either, I was using that as an example. But seriously... if it's Special Edition, make it in more ways then just two.

No new special rims? No new aero-kit? No increased hp? No bigger brakes? Wider tires? Maybe some racing seats a-la SLR?

Special? Yeah, you must be if you're willing to fork out the extra couple thousand for this CL.
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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 01:44 PM
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Ok! So someone dare speak up and tell me the CL65 Anniv. is worth 295k

As I recall, people assmued the vehicle would only be worth a couple grand over, and even my 40K over the original price tag was only half the real price. Come on guys, do you see my point now-- or do you still wish to pay 100K more for a fancy interior and paint job?

I told you the price tag would be huge... although even I couldn't guess the real msrp.
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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 02:49 PM
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Dude there is no way that version of the CL is going to be 295K. If that were true I'd agree with you.

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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 04:28 PM
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Dude there is no way that version of the CL is going to be 295K. If that were true I'd agree with you.

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It's already confirmed....
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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 04:57 PM
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A special edition CL65 with Alubeam paint will be available to only 40 people. Go to performance studio and select vehicles.

First person to get one please post some pictures so we can see this bad boy in a real life setting and not the glamor photos of this paint they have given us.

They call the look a 'liquid metal', reminds me of that dude in Terminator 2

http://www.mercedes-amg.com/index2.html
A Friend of Mine has a 2007 W211 Painted in ALUBEAM ...It looks like Chrome ...He said the paint job was 10K as that is what he was told from the Factory

We tried to get the front bumper resprayed and several Paint stores didnt have a paint code to work from..As He damaged the front bumper on a Race from Paris to Beijing China in His Blutec W211

http://www.breckrothage.com/MarineDa...s/_MG_5849.htm
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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 07:03 PM
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Dude there is no way that version of the CL is going to be 295K. If that were true I'd agree with you.

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Marcus - I can't remember the last time you were off target with MB info. Don't worry, you're still batting .995
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Old Sep 10, 2007 | 02:44 AM
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Marcus - I can't remember the last time you were off target with MB info. Don't worry, you're still batting .995
Me either..lol. The price is just so outrageous I just couldn't see how it could be true. No wonder there will only be 20 of them for the U.S. This guy Exodus is right. Absurd price.

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Old Sep 10, 2007 | 03:10 PM
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i was discussing this car with my dealer today.

he is giving me details tomorrow

i wil let you know

i want the color bad
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The vehicle is cool no doubt-- 40th anniv. and all that; but a special color and interior hardly does anything to merit a cool 100K over the original price tag.

Just how bad do you want that paint job?
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