Cold Weater = Wheeeeeeeeeeeeee
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Cold Weater = Wheeeeeeeeeeeeee
Wow... Was 41 degrees early this morning here in Southern California. Cool, crisp with nice dry roads. The cold air running through the Kompressor felt like it added 100 HP. Moderate acceleration broke the wheels loose.
NICE !
NICE !
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hi adam,
i saw a thread on the E55 forum that said basically the
same thing. how does cold air help change the performance?
oh....and if your really curious about cold weather performance....send your car over to me in pennsylvania for testing in january.
i'll be sure to give you a full report
i saw a thread on the E55 forum that said basically the
same thing. how does cold air help change the performance?
oh....and if your really curious about cold weather performance....send your car over to me in pennsylvania for testing in january.
i'll be sure to give you a full report
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Cold air is denser. Therefore more air is able to be packed into the cylinders which creates more power.
Same theory applies to the intercooler. It cools down the intake charge air.
In colder weather, the air is not only cool, but also colled more by the intercooler resulting in a lot more horsepower.
Same theory applies to the intercooler. It cools down the intake charge air.
In colder weather, the air is not only cool, but also colled more by the intercooler resulting in a lot more horsepower.
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Adam, do you think a stock 55K car de-limited to 186mph, and in very cool weather say 0-10 C, will hang with if not beat a 575M in a straight line up to 186mph, let alone an SL600 to 155mph?
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I dont think it can take the 575 M V-12 the car has a very powerfull punch at all RPM ranges and at speed's over 120 it really pulls. But the 55K wouldent be far behind. Ferrari's success and motive was not really for straight line times but more track anyways.
And the 575M tops out at about 201-202mph
And the 575M tops out at about 201-202mph
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Originally posted by Bilal
Adam, do you think a stock 55K car de-limited to 186mph, and in very cool weather say 0-10 C, will hang with if not beat a 575M in a straight line up to 186mph, let alone an SL600 to 155mph?
Adam, do you think a stock 55K car de-limited to 186mph, and in very cool weather say 0-10 C, will hang with if not beat a 575M in a straight line up to 186mph, let alone an SL600 to 155mph?
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The Ferrari will probably be a little faster, however, would need a good driver as well.
Keep in mind these #'s from the June 2003 Motor Trend:
0-60
CL55 - 4.27
Ferrari 575M - 4.16
Standing 1/4 Mile:
CL55 - 12.38 @114.45
Ferrari 575M - 12.26 @118.58
Standing Mile:
CL55 - 31.9 @164.1
Ferrari 575M - 31.4 @166.1
Totally delimited, a CL55 with enough track will damn near hit the 200Mph mark as well.
Keep in mind these #'s from the June 2003 Motor Trend:
0-60
CL55 - 4.27
Ferrari 575M - 4.16
Standing 1/4 Mile:
CL55 - 12.38 @114.45
Ferrari 575M - 12.26 @118.58
Standing Mile:
CL55 - 31.9 @164.1
Ferrari 575M - 31.4 @166.1
Totally delimited, a CL55 with enough track will damn near hit the 200Mph mark as well.
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Originally posted by awiner
The Ferrari will probably be a little faster, however, would need a good driver as well.
Keep in mind these #'s from the June 2003 Motor Trend:
0-60
CL55 - 4.27
Ferrari 575M - 4.16
Standing 1/4 Mile:
CL55 - 12.38 @114.45
Ferrari 575M - 12.26 @118.58
Standing Mile:
CL55 - 31.9 @164.1
Ferrari 575M - 31.4 @166.1
Totally delimited, a CL55 with enough track will damn near hit the 200Mph mark as well.
The Ferrari will probably be a little faster, however, would need a good driver as well.
Keep in mind these #'s from the June 2003 Motor Trend:
0-60
CL55 - 4.27
Ferrari 575M - 4.16
Standing 1/4 Mile:
CL55 - 12.38 @114.45
Ferrari 575M - 12.26 @118.58
Standing Mile:
CL55 - 31.9 @164.1
Ferrari 575M - 31.4 @166.1
Totally delimited, a CL55 with enough track will damn near hit the 200Mph mark as well.
they say that the SL55 delimited will hit over 200, i think 202-04mph, but the car has to drive on special pavement b/c the weight to speed ratio is too heavy.
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Well the E55/S55/CL55 all have the same gearing, AMG said that the E55 will reach close to 207mph~ So since the CL/S are also aerodynamic, and have a bit more power, they might reach that speed as well. The SL55 has a shorter final drive.
Those Motrtrend umbers were taken in hot weather, so thats why I said it might take a 575M out, well if a 55k can't do it, a 65TT can
Those Motrtrend umbers were taken in hot weather, so thats why I said it might take a 575M out, well if a 55k can't do it, a 65TT can
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the 600 is quicker than the 55, especially over 100mph. if the 55 was that close to the 575, the 600 would easily hand both cars thier *** in a top speed run. the 65 will be in a whole other universe.
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Exactly, I read a review of the SL600 and it said roughly, it'll do 0-to the limiter at 155mph in about 20 seconds. a Murcielago does 0-150 in about 19.7 seconds, thats with a 0-60 time of 3.6 seconds, not easily achievable by your average lambo buyer.
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Originally posted by Bilal
Those Motrtrend umbers were taken in hot weather, so thats why I said it might take a 575M out, well if a 55k can't do it, a 65TT can
Those Motrtrend umbers were taken in hot weather, so thats why I said it might take a 575M out, well if a 55k can't do it, a 65TT can
Yes, they were done at the Ford proving grounds at Yucca Arizona. They didn't really say what the temp. was, however did mention the temps can get in the 120's during the summer.
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Two comments: One is that the drag coefficient of the CL55 is 0.29 and is lower than the SL55, which I beleive is 0.30. I do not knwo that of the E55.
The other is that while the colder air helps the engine generate more power (thank you Adam for you lucid explanation), it also causes the tires to harden. In the really cold weather in Boston, I do not plan to drive my CL55 because the grip of the tires is not sufficient. In snow or ice, they are dangerous. While the Bridgestone 050's are extremely impressive tires, when compared to Dunlops, Michelins and Contis that I have had on recent new MB's, I do not beleive that they are cold weather compound.
The other is that while the colder air helps the engine generate more power (thank you Adam for you lucid explanation), it also causes the tires to harden. In the really cold weather in Boston, I do not plan to drive my CL55 because the grip of the tires is not sufficient. In snow or ice, they are dangerous. While the Bridgestone 050's are extremely impressive tires, when compared to Dunlops, Michelins and Contis that I have had on recent new MB's, I do not beleive that they are cold weather compound.
