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Old Sep 28, 2024 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by KCviper
Feels like an eternity waiting to find out the specs of the CLE 63!! Come on already
Here are some specs someone else posted: https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...667530663.jpeg

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Old Sep 28, 2024 | 04:06 PM
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Thanks.....guess I was thinking about MB making an official announcement on the car!!
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Old Sep 28, 2024 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by KCviper
Thanks.....guess I was thinking about MB making an official announcement on the car!!
We might expect the reveal later this year but more likely Q1-Q2 next year. That is just my guess though.
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Old Sep 28, 2024 | 11:14 PM
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Well, anyways, this was just posted, with that same video discussed here. I am not sure why they say "confirmed" I don't see how anything is confirmed but okay: https://carbuzz.com/video-evidence-p...63-getting-v8/
So many people hoping this is what it'll be !!!

I read through all the printed material from one most recent article and the author clearly states it's a V8 based off the sound observed IRL also noting that it sounded distinctly different from the CLE53 and ruled out a 4 pot since there's no charging port. Test drivers also observed keeping throttle application light and just coasting by whenever people or car paparazzi are around to not give anything away.

Personal thought is I believe AMG can introduce a V8 CLE variant without worry of exceeding their total carbon footprint, it'll be priced high and all other models with V8's are already priced sky high which will limit sales volumes.
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Old Sep 28, 2024 | 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by KCviper
Feels like an eternity waiting to find out the specs of the CLE 63!! Come on already
Same here !
Been keeping a keen eye on this thing since late 2021 and all of the early sighting of test mules through 2022, so yes it does seem like an eternity now since the CLE63 first appeared.
It was obvious at that stage it was fitted with the I4/P3 PHEV of the W206 C63 but even more obvious now it does not have that powertrain anymore and that's definitely why it's lingered on for this long because they've had to re-engineer it all with a different powertrain and go over the whole process again.
If it takes a little while longer in development that's a good thing since they can also (hopefully) incorporate fixes of common problems that are starting to show up in this new CLE platform.
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Old Sep 29, 2024 | 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by AV1
So many people hoping this is what it'll be !!!

I read through all the printed material from one most recent article and the author clearly states it's a V8 based off the sound observed IRL also noting that it sounded distinctly different from the CLE53 and ruled out a 4 pot since there's no charging port. Test drivers also observed keeping throttle application light and just coasting by whenever people or car paparazzi are around to not give anything away.

Personal thought is I believe AMG can introduce a V8 CLE variant without worry of exceeding their total carbon footprint, it'll be priced high and all other models with V8's are already priced sky high which will limit sales volumes.
I mean it would be lovely that is a V8 but forum member superswiss did mention that it is not a V8 sound from his experience at the AMG Private Lounge driving experience event (or along those lines), if the CLE 450 can mimic the V8 sound with the progressive sport sound in the cabin, they can totally put that sound in speakers outside the vehicle, I love to be wrong.
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Old Sep 29, 2024 | 09:14 AM
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So MB killed the S coupe first then C and E coupe, there has to be a price gap between the CLE 63 and the GT coupe, they can't price the CLE 63 too high, obviously higher than the C 63 S E Performance but they have to be careful. If there really is a V8, the V8 will certainly be a selling point but they are not attracting any S 63 coupe owners, at least they shouldn't be.
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Old Sep 29, 2024 | 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by AV1
Same here !
Been keeping a keen eye on this thing since late 2021 and all of the early sighting of test mules through 2022, so yes it does seem like an eternity now since the CLE63 first appeared.
It was obvious at that stage it was fitted with the I4/P3 PHEV of the W206 C63 but even more obvious now it does not have that powertrain anymore and that's definitely why it's lingered on for this long because they've had to re-engineer it all with a different powertrain and go over the whole process again.
If it takes a little while longer in development that's a good thing since they can also (hopefully) incorporate fixes of common problems that are starting to show up in this new CLE platform.
This was because of the backfire with the C 63 S E Performance and the four cylinder although that was pretty much expected so if they do had to scrap that and do everything from scratch, so if they do put a V8, that explains the delay well.
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Old Sep 29, 2024 | 09:29 AM
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Matter of fact, I will likely be a targeted customer, I want a V8 but I needed 4MATIC. So yes I am indeed hoping it gets a V8.
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Old Sep 29, 2024 | 11:53 AM
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The C63 is the same price as the CLE53 with options - at least the ones I have seen here in the states. So the CLE63 must have a V8. No one is going to pay a $30k premium for the 4 banger hybrid in a coupe format. My guess is it will have the baby V8 and price will be $120k with options.

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Old Sep 29, 2024 | 01:27 PM
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Sounds like a deep V8 rumble. Extra radiator cooling from the side vents. Rejoice 👑👑👑
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Old Sep 29, 2024 | 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by cmcbenz
The C63 is the same price as the CLE53 with options - at least the ones I have seen here in the states. So the CLE63 must have a V8. No one is going to pay a $30k premium for the 4 banger hybrid in a coupe format. My guess is it will have the baby V8 and price will be $120k with options.
I totally agree about that, the price will make or break the CLE 63, like others mentioned, the CLE 53 is such a good rounder.
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Old Sep 29, 2024 | 01:48 PM
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I always love more power. I almost got an M4 that would have been about 15k more than my 91k CLE 53. But I found the interior of the MB to be nicer, had better tech, and a superb audio system over the M4 even if it is a little slower. If the CLE63 is a V8 and only about 20k more similarly optioned, I’d seriously consider the upgrade. Anything above that and I feel the 53 is good enough and a bargain for the price.
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Old Sep 29, 2024 | 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by utsteve98
I always love more power. I almost got an M4 that would have been about 15k more than my 91k CLE 53. But I found the interior of the MB to be nicer, had better tech, and a superb audio system over the M4 even if it is a little slower. If the CLE63 is a V8 and only about 20k more similarly optioned, I’d seriously consider the upgrade. Anything above that and I feel the 53 is good enough and a bargain for the price.
I am not surprised to hear it is nicer, given that the CLE is also meant to replace the E coupe and cab as well. The seats are unique to the CLE and it even has massage. After all, their target market is both C and E coupe and cab customers. The W206 C-Class sedan doesn't get massage and will never have the same type of seats the CLE gets. If I recalled correctly. MB said along the lines of "C class customers wanted more luxury and E class customer wanted something more sporty". I also expect the ride of the CLE to be more comfortable and sound insulation better as well.
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Old Sep 29, 2024 | 09:06 PM
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I always love more power. I almost got an M4 that would have been about 15k more than my 91k CLE 53. But I found the interior of the MB to be nicer, had better tech, and a superb audio system over the M4 even if it is a little slower. If the CLE63 is a V8 and only about 20k more similarly optioned, I’d seriously consider the upgrade. Anything above that and I feel the 53 is good enough and a bargain for the price.
I’ve had two current gen M3 - one comp x and one manual. I agree with your assessment. They are very fast and the build quality was good, but current M cars are quite numb and less satisfying to drive than prior gen M cars and even the CLE53. They are built for a race track. The brake and steering feel is actually better in the Merc, and RAS and wide track and massive rear tires makes the car a blast to drive. AWD system is better than x drive, too (imho).
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Old Sep 29, 2024 | 11:49 PM
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The C63 is the same price as the CLE53 with options - at least the ones I have seen here in the states. So the CLE63 must have a V8. No one is going to pay a $30k premium for the 4 banger hybrid in a coupe format. My guess is it will have the baby V8 and price will be $120k with options.
I agree, but regardless of price it'd better have the V8 since it makes absolutely no sense what so ever to have 3 different I6 powerplant types in the CLE range if the CLE 63 also gets an I6 you end up with CLE450, 53 & 63 with same engine layout - which is nonsense...
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Sounds like a deep V8 rumble. Extra radiator cooling from the side vents. Rejoice 👑👑👑
It definitely does sound V8 or it's a very good external speaker mimic job, but notice how the driver "***** foots" out of there especially the mule with the trailer in order to keep the exhaust note hidden lol.
Those peeps spying should've had a quick look under the vehicle just behind the front wheels to see if they could spot the obvious twin exhausts dropping down either side of the trans...
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Originally Posted by cmcbenz
I’ve had two current gen M3 - one comp x and one manual. I agree with your assessment. They are very fast and the build quality was good, but current M cars are quite numb and less satisfying to drive than prior gen M cars and even the CLE53. They are built for a race track. The brake and steering feel is actually better in the Merc, and RAS and wide track and massive rear tires makes the car a blast to drive. AWD system is better than x drive, too (imho).
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Old Sep 30, 2024 | 08:32 PM
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Very honest review from an owners perspective and not just from a quick or day review only which is typical of YT channels these days.
Sounds like it would've been OK as a weekend car but definitely does not tick the boxes as a useable daily.
He mentioned physical size and that's one major point that bugs me as well with most/all new cars and i.e. they just keep getting bigger & bigger, the CLE is no longer a small/medium sized coupe either...
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His point about “not fun unless driving fast” is absolutely the case with the current M cars especially the comp models. I found the manual base M3 to be more engaging due to the third pedal. But even then it was dull and lifeless, almost like a video game, compared to other sports cars. The only thing that really communicates is the chassis, I.e., drive by the seat of your pants. Even then the comp model chassis is a bit punishing.

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Another interesting vid, however he's just going by the article headliner.
Still we all want to believe it's a V8 powertrain in the CLE63

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Originally Posted by AV1
Very honest review from an owners perspective and not just from a quick or day review only which is typical of YT channels these days.
Sounds like it would've been OK as a weekend car but definitely does not tick the boxes as a useable daily.
He mentioned physical size and that's one major point that bugs me as well with most/all new cars and i.e. they just keep getting bigger & bigger, the CLE is no longer a small/medium sized coupe either...
I couldn't agree more about the bigger size trend, I absolutely hate it, I am not growing bigger anymore but the car is gigantic. I always wished to have a C class size S Class but I think I am part of the minority.

Another thing growing bigger are car screens and smartphones, the latter which our hands aren't growing bigger, why do we need a tablet in our hands : )
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Originally Posted by cmcbenz
His point about “not fun unless driving fast” is absolutely the case with the current M cars especially the comp models. I found the manual base M3 to be more engaging due to the third pedal. But even then it was dull and lifeless, almost like a video game, compared to other sports cars. The only thing that really communicates is the chassis, I.e., drive by the seat of your pants. Even then the comp model chassis is a bit punishing.
Ya that was a pretty common complaint, I mean I am not surprised, putting a ZF torque converter automatic in a performance car really dulls the experience as well.
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My SA is told the CLE63 will be the 4 cylinder hybrid drivetrain. He does all the AMG driving releases through the factory.

All videos sound very weak to me too, nothing convincing to suggest otherwise so far IMO.
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My SA is told the CLE63 will be the 4 cylinder hybrid drivetrain. He does all the AMG driving releases through the factory.

All videos sound very weak to me too, nothing convincing to suggest otherwise so far IMO.
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