2025 CLE63AMG
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Feb 2017
Posts: 1,126
Likes: 194
Final Edition C63s / RS3 Sportback
Out Of Control!!
Joined: Nov 2018
Posts: 11,403
Likes: 5,324
From: San Francisco Bay Area
2019 C63CS
Out Of Control!!
Joined: Nov 2018
Posts: 11,403
Likes: 5,324
From: San Francisco Bay Area
2019 C63CS
He believes that the C63 SE is simply ahead of its time and as other manufacturers catch up, it will eventually be popular. I also think he is delusional, but on the other hand as younger generations come along who never owned a V8 AMG, they don't know what they are missing. I didn't hate driving the new C63, but I didn't like it either. It's fast, but that doesn't do much for me if the rest of the car isn't there. The transmission shifts delayed in manual mode, you can feel the almost 4500 lbs, and the complicated nature of the powertrain is always in your face. I haven't missed the power and speed of the new C63 a single time since I got back from Germany and driving my C205 again. The C205 is just so much more engaging and special to drive, but for somebody who never owned one, they won't know it. I guess he's banking on a completely new breed of customers.
Last edited by superswiss; Oct 1, 2024 at 04:39 PM.
He believes that the C63 SE is simply ahead of its time and as other manufacturers catch up, it will eventually be popular. I also think he is delusional, but on the other hand as younger generations come along who never owned a V8 AMG, they don't know what they are missing. I didn't hate driving the new C63, but I didn't like it either. It's fast, but that doesn't do much for me if the rest of the car isn't there. The transmission shifts delayed in manual mode, you can feel the almost 4500 lbs, and the complicated nature of the powertrain is always in your face. I haven't missed the power and speed of the new C63 a single time since I got back from Germany and driving my C205 again. The C205 is just so much more engaging and special to drive, but for somebody who never owned one, they won't know it. I guess he's banking on a completely new breed of customers.
Out Of Control!!
Joined: Nov 2018
Posts: 11,403
Likes: 5,324
From: San Francisco Bay Area
2019 C63CS
MB World Stories
The Best of Mercedes & AMG
Manual Mercedes? 6 Times Sindelfingen Let Drivers Have All The Fun
Verdad Gallardo
Mercedes SLR McLaren 722 S Is Extremely Rare Example Modified by McLaren
Verdad Gallardo
8 Classic Boxy Mercedes Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine
Verdad Gallardo
Flawlessly Restored Mercedes 190E Evo II Heads to Auction
Verdad Gallardo
Electric Mercedes C-Class Unveiled: 11 Things You Need to Know
Verdad Gallardo
Mercedes EQS Gets A Major Update: Everything You Need to Know
Verdad Gallardo
5 Underrated Mercedes-Benz Models That Don't Get the Love They Deserve
Verdad Gallardo
Mercedes 300D Has Pushed Well Past 1 Million Miles and It Ain't Stopping
Verdad Gallardo
10 Most Reliable Mercedes-Benz Models You Can Buy Used
Verdad Gallardo
Member
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 202
Likes: 20
From: Atlanta
CLE53AMG
Absolutely. Chasing Tesla was a race to the bottom of the brain stem. It’s sad to see the historical restraint automakers like BMW M used to demonstrate thrown aside as they chase after stats instead of crafting cars that feel great to drive. I’ll never forget the feel of the older AMGs and older M cars. That said there are still special things about M and AMG today … an I4 hybrid is not one of them - it’s a deeply flawed vehicle.
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 2,380
Likes: 73
C204 C250-CDI
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 2,380
Likes: 73
C204 C250-CDI
Out Of Control!!
Joined: Nov 2018
Posts: 11,403
Likes: 5,324
From: San Francisco Bay Area
2019 C63CS
They may have simply gotten rid of it. Nobody really plugs these things in. The battery is a small 6 kwh and charges just from driving. You can literally start a lap in Race mode with an empty battery and the battery is full at the end of the lap for example. The 12 miles electric range it has or whatever little it is, isn't gonna motivate anyone to drive around in EL mode other than perhaps pulling out of their neighborhood w/o anybody noticing.
Last edited by superswiss; Oct 1, 2024 at 08:21 PM.
Member
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 202
Likes: 20
From: Atlanta
CLE53AMG
They may have simply gotten rid of it. Nobody really plugs these things in. The battery is a small 6 kwh and charges just from driving. You can literally start a lap in Race mode with an empty battery and the battery is full at the end of the lap for example. The 12 miles electric range it has or whatever little it is, isn't gonna motivate anyone to drive around in EL mode other than perhaps pulling out of their neighborhood w/o anybody noticing.
Last edited by cmcbenz; Oct 1, 2024 at 10:01 PM.
MBWorld God!
Joined: Dec 2019
Posts: 32,222
Likes: 6,281
MBWorld God!
Joined: Dec 2019
Posts: 32,222
Likes: 6,281
I guess since they spent so much money on R&D for the M139 E Performance drivetrain they want to get some ROI by putting it in the CLE 63.... if that thing sells that is.
MBWorld God!
Joined: Dec 2019
Posts: 32,222
Likes: 6,281
They may have simply gotten rid of it. Nobody really plugs these things in. The battery is a small 6 kwh and charges just from driving. You can literally start a lap in Race mode with an empty battery and the battery is full at the end of the lap for example. The 12 miles electric range it has or whatever little it is, isn't gonna motivate anyone to drive around in EL mode other than perhaps pulling out of their neighborhood w/o anybody noticing.
Super Member
Joined: Nov 2016
Posts: 568
Likes: 132
2007 E350
https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-c63s-...63-its-v8.html
Go somewhere quiet, turn up the vol and listen. This is 100% the biturbo v8
Go somewhere quiet, turn up the vol and listen. This is 100% the biturbo v8
https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-c63s-...63-its-v8.html
Go somewhere quiet, turn up the vol and listen. This is 100% the biturbo v8
Go somewhere quiet, turn up the vol and listen. This is 100% the biturbo v8
Out Of Control!!
Joined: Nov 2018
Posts: 11,403
Likes: 5,324
From: San Francisco Bay Area
2019 C63CS
https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-c63s-...63-its-v8.html
Go somewhere quiet, turn up the vol and listen. This is 100% the biturbo v8
Go somewhere quiet, turn up the vol and listen. This is 100% the biturbo v8
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 2,380
Likes: 73
C204 C250-CDI
https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-c63s-...63-its-v8.html
Go somewhere quiet, turn up the vol and listen. This is 100% the biturbo v8
Go somewhere quiet, turn up the vol and listen. This is 100% the biturbo v8
Shame none of those car paparazzi peeps didn't sneak in a quick look underneath it whilst stationary and parked for some time to try spot the obvious exhausts.
Could be wrong but many other factors involved as well, eg. it'll be a low sales volume variant and will not affect the companies total carbon footprint and on that note it'll be Euro 7 compliant anyway.
Also we all know the W205 C63 could've been fitted with a V8 if they voted to go that way and the larger volume sales of that model would still fit into allowable carbon emissions total but they decided on the electrification path more so to prep for a full EV future.
Absence of charging port is definitely a sign that there's no P3 drivetrain, they would not develop a non charge port derivative on only a low volume one models sub variant, if there's no V8 it's an I6.
MBWorld God!
Joined: Dec 2019
Posts: 32,222
Likes: 6,281
I completely agree and it's also what I've stated numerous times, I'm totally convinced until the actual reveal shows otherwise the CLE63 has a V8.
Shame none of those car paparazzi peeps didn't sneak in a quick look underneath it whilst stationary and parked for some time to try spot the obvious exhausts.
Could be wrong but many other factors involved as well, eg. it'll be a low sales volume variant and will not affect the companies total carbon footprint and on that note it'll be Euro 7 compliant anyway.
Also we all know the W205 C63 could've been fitted with a V8 if they voted to go that way and the larger volume sales of that model would still fit into allowable carbon emissions total but they decided on the electrification path more so to prep for a full EV future.
Absence of charging port is definitely a sign that there's no P3 drivetrain, they would not develop a non charge port derivative on only a low volume one models sub variant, if there's no V8 it's an I6.
Shame none of those car paparazzi peeps didn't sneak in a quick look underneath it whilst stationary and parked for some time to try spot the obvious exhausts.
Could be wrong but many other factors involved as well, eg. it'll be a low sales volume variant and will not affect the companies total carbon footprint and on that note it'll be Euro 7 compliant anyway.
Also we all know the W205 C63 could've been fitted with a V8 if they voted to go that way and the larger volume sales of that model would still fit into allowable carbon emissions total but they decided on the electrification path more so to prep for a full EV future.
Absence of charging port is definitely a sign that there's no P3 drivetrain, they would not develop a non charge port derivative on only a low volume one models sub variant, if there's no V8 it's an I6.
Super Member
Joined: Nov 2016
Posts: 568
Likes: 132
2007 E350
Yeah, gotta have to disappoint you there, too. That's the speaker enhanced 4-cylinder idle. That's the one thing I noticed when I was standing behind an idling C63 SE last month. It has a deep sounding idle. As I said in my impressions thread, the C63 SE sounded better than expected, but it's artificially enhanced with speakers.
Super Member
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 562
Likes: 20
From: Dallas, TX
13 Lamborghini SL, 20 Porsche 911 (sold), 09 C63(sold), Vipers (sold)
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 2,380
Likes: 73
C204 C250-CDI
Should have mentioned it before I've also inspected the W205 C63 IRL and had a good listen to it (stationary only could not drive it) and the sound it made is not the same.
Could be IRL is different to vids as can only hear the CLE63 in vids but the C63's exhaust thrum to my ears sounded more like an old WRX 4 pot boxer with a modified exhaust than a V8.
Or could be the external sound bar or whatever it is they're using is different from the W205 C63.
Could end up being disappointed but still hoping
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 2,380
Likes: 73
C204 C250-CDI
Makes sense, if the CLE63 is fitted with another iteration of I6, it would have to offer more than just a power bump over the 53 to be worth the extra spend.
