Tires - Pirelli PZero Nero/Pilot Sports/S-03s???
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Tires - Pirelli PZero Nero/Pilot Sports/S-03s???
Has anyone here tried the Pirelli PZero Nero tires? How good are they? The tirerack review/test sure had them right with the Pilot Sports(my current tire) & the S0-3s... actually, the test showed they were a little better than the Pilot Sports, and very comparable with the S-03s....
Heres the performance Test Review from TireRack:
Max Performance Tire Test
Heres the performance Test Review from TireRack:
Max Performance Tire Test
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I just put the S-03's on my car and I love them. They handle so good. They are a very good sticky tire which grips the road great. They dont have the best tread life but thats the price you pay for the tire. I would recommend these tires .
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I'm on my second set of S-03's at 35,000 miles now and I'm very pleased with them.
I'm driving a little more conservative with this set than the last, as they will wear fast if driven hard ( which is my norm ), and hopefully I'll get more miles than I did with the last set: I love the way they handle in rain, as we get a lot of it during this time of the year here in Central Florida, and that was my deciding factor in my choice for my stock rubber. I'm also using 18" Lorinsor now instead of the stock 17 AMG's.
I'm driving a little more conservative with this set than the last, as they will wear fast if driven hard ( which is my norm ), and hopefully I'll get more miles than I did with the last set: I love the way they handle in rain, as we get a lot of it during this time of the year here in Central Florida, and that was my deciding factor in my choice for my stock rubber. I'm also using 18" Lorinsor now instead of the stock 17 AMG's.
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You already know my opinion Danny.......but for public record I say S03's as well!!! I haven't heard much about the Nero's like the pole positions.......maybe in time??? Not enough people have them yet.
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I have never tried the S-03s but the vast majority of those who have seem happy with them. I replaced my original equipment MXX3s with the Pilot Sport and I was generally happy with them. Great grip in the wet and dry, decent treadwear but they became uncomfortably noisy when worn.
However, my vote goes with the PZero Nero. I got one of the first sets when released last year. I know I was taking a gamble but I have always been happy with Pirelli products. I seem to be in the minority. The traction with the Nero in both wet and dry conditions is great. I got about 20000 miles out of them and I'm pleasantly surprised that they aren't noisy even when worn. I agree that the original PZero (yellow label) was noisy but IMO the Nero isn't noisy at all and the rear tires are almost completely worn. At Tirerack the Nero is the least expensive of the three you asked about. I'll be ordering a new set probably this week.
However, my vote goes with the PZero Nero. I got one of the first sets when released last year. I know I was taking a gamble but I have always been happy with Pirelli products. I seem to be in the minority. The traction with the Nero in both wet and dry conditions is great. I got about 20000 miles out of them and I'm pleasantly surprised that they aren't noisy even when worn. I agree that the original PZero (yellow label) was noisy but IMO the Nero isn't noisy at all and the rear tires are almost completely worn. At Tirerack the Nero is the least expensive of the three you asked about. I'll be ordering a new set probably this week.
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Originally posted by Mach430
SO3's or Toyo T1-S.
Pirelli's are loud and uncomfortable. Pilot Sports are loud and wear fast (except for Karl who's new record seems to have raised the average by 5,000 miles
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SO3's or Toyo T1-S.
Pirelli's are loud and uncomfortable. Pilot Sports are loud and wear fast (except for Karl who's new record seems to have raised the average by 5,000 miles
).
I just had the fronts replaced because I was doing it out of warranty and I didn't want to wait too long before my advisor forgot about the deal....
So, technically, I think I was looking at close to 35,000 miles before my tires needed to be changed... Dang, I must be driving like grandma... or maybe it just has to do with the fact that i SIT in traffic in my CLK, rather than actually driving it 90% of the time...
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Originally posted by Mark D.
I bought the Yokohama AVS ES100's, and I think they're the best.
The grip and handling is amazing
I bought the Yokohama AVS ES100's, and I think they're the best.
The grip and handling is amazing
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By the way, if I go the route of 18s, and stick 235/40/18 Fronts, and 265/35/18 Rears, am I going to rub?
This combo essentially yields the same wheel diameter as 19s with 235/35-265/30 setup...
My car is dropped just about exactly 2" front & rear... Any help?
My intentions were to give the Yokohama's AVS ES-100s a try cause my buddy plans to sell me (2) 265/35/18s for dirt cheap (inteded for his Porsche)... I'd go with the S-03s in a heartbeat, but I'm trying to keep things to a budget so my finacee doesn't kick my A$$ if she finds out how much I really spent....
This combo essentially yields the same wheel diameter as 19s with 235/35-265/30 setup...
My car is dropped just about exactly 2" front & rear... Any help?
My intentions were to give the Yokohama's AVS ES-100s a try cause my buddy plans to sell me (2) 265/35/18s for dirt cheap (inteded for his Porsche)... I'd go with the S-03s in a heartbeat, but I'm trying to keep things to a budget so my finacee doesn't kick my A$$ if she finds out how much I really spent....
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Originally posted by LOH
At Tirerack the Nero is the least expensive of the three you asked about. I'll be ordering a new set probably this week.
At Tirerack the Nero is the least expensive of the three you asked about. I'll be ordering a new set probably this week.
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Originally posted by mmgrad
By the way, if I go the route of 18s, and stick 235/40/18 Fronts, and 265/35/18 Rears, am I going to rub?
By the way, if I go the route of 18s, and stick 235/40/18 Fronts, and 265/35/18 Rears, am I going to rub?
BTW - I got over 26,000 mile on Pilot Sports on my E55 and I drive like I'm in a race everyday. They would have gone another 3-5K if I had stuck with the recommended inflation pressures.
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Originally posted by Mach430
SO3's or Toyo T1-S.
Pirelli's are loud and uncomfortable. Pilot Sports are loud and wear fast (except for Karl who's new record seems to have raised the average by 5,000 miles ).
SO3's or Toyo T1-S.
Pirelli's are loud and uncomfortable. Pilot Sports are loud and wear fast (except for Karl who's new record seems to have raised the average by 5,000 miles
).
TIP for ADDITIONAL SAVINGS:
Use the spare tire - mine was Pilot Sport 225/45/17 - as your new front tire and save $200!!
ps
make a used front your spare.
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Originally posted by Mach430
I had simliar pressure's on my car. I think the problem is the amount of pressure I placed on my tires
I'd skip the spare-tire savings... The tire is speed limited to 50 mph.
I had simliar pressure's on my car. I think the problem is the amount of pressure I placed on my tires
I'd skip the spare-tire savings... The tire is speed limited to 50 mph.
Yep... according to my manual, its a regular 225/45 W or Z rated tire, so I would assume that if you mount it on NORMAL rims, that it would be ok to use on the fronts...
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Originally posted by mmgrad
Isn't the spare tire a regular Z rated tire? i thought the only difference was it was mounted on a cheesy black steel rim...
Yep... according to my manual, its a regular 225/45 W or Z rated tire, so I would assume that if you mount it on NORMAL rims, that it would be ok to use on the fronts...
Isn't the spare tire a regular Z rated tire? i thought the only difference was it was mounted on a cheesy black steel rim...
Yep... according to my manual, its a regular 225/45 W or Z rated tire, so I would assume that if you mount it on NORMAL rims, that it would be ok to use on the fronts...
Of course the spare IS a full size Z rated - a Michelin Pilot Sport tire (in my trunk) a tire sized 225/45/17 - costing $200 plus.
The only reason MB recommends 50MPH is that
1. the spare is a front tire size (the rear tires are 245/40/17) and
2. the spare is on a skimpy rim.
I just had the spare incorporated into my set of 4 new tires of Michelin Pilot Sport.
TOTAL COST:
$600 including balancing, mounting, taxes, disposal fees at COSTCO.
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I've had the Yoko AVS Es-100's and they're not any quieter than the Paradas that I've also had.
So far, I'm quite happy with the SO-3's. I've tried Pilot Sports too and they just don't last that long (too soft) given the lackluster handling they provide.
So far, I'm quite happy with the SO-3's. I've tried Pilot Sports too and they just don't last that long (too soft) given the lackluster handling they provide.
Originally posted by mmgrad
Mark, I too was considering the AVS ES-100s. They seem good for the price, with decent tread wear (280)... noise should be pretty low... Jeremy seemed to have had a little bit of bad luck with his set though...
Mark, I too was considering the AVS ES-100s. They seem good for the price, with decent tread wear (280)... noise should be pretty low... Jeremy seemed to have had a little bit of bad luck with his set though...
