shocks for eibach springs
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shocks for eibach springs
Hello;
I've bought a set of eibach pro kit springs for my w209. Now I'm trying to find some good shocks to fit them; do you think the AMG ones are a good option? I think they are sachs... any other ideas? I think the bilsteins b8 probably would be too hard...
I've bought a set of eibach pro kit springs for my w209. Now I'm trying to find some good shocks to fit them; do you think the AMG ones are a good option? I think they are sachs... any other ideas? I think the bilsteins b8 probably would be too hard...
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I'm thinking about waiting and installing the springs on my stock shocks, because the car has only 41k miles on the clock, and change the shocks maybe at 75k miles; what do you think?
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i was also thinking on that for mine,
but if we lower the car with dtock shocks it will not work correct,it might also be dangerous
but if we lower the car with dtock shocks it will not work correct,it might also be dangerous
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there are plenty of members that changed their springs first. the shocks will just wear out faster. i believe thats what the problem with that set up was.
i have 75k on my odo right now, and the shocks are still fine with the stock springs. i was thinking when i get closer to 100k, i'll change it up. but i dont track or autox my car. so really there isnt a point. just for that aggressive stance.
i was actually thinking about getting d2 c/o. they are fairly cheap and have damper adjustability. but it really depends on my financial situation. they cost the same as a set of springs and shocks and one of them members with a c55 said he really liked them so it changed my view of the set.
if you havent bought the springs or shocks yet, you might want to consider that.
i have 75k on my odo right now, and the shocks are still fine with the stock springs. i was thinking when i get closer to 100k, i'll change it up. but i dont track or autox my car. so really there isnt a point. just for that aggressive stance.
i was actually thinking about getting d2 c/o. they are fairly cheap and have damper adjustability. but it really depends on my financial situation. they cost the same as a set of springs and shocks and one of them members with a c55 said he really liked them so it changed my view of the set.
if you havent bought the springs or shocks yet, you might want to consider that.
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I had my stock shocks with H&R springs for about one week then I decided right away to get the KONI yellow. The ride was okay with stock shocks, but it just gets kinda bouncy ride. We have Mercedes not the cheap HONDA or TOYOTA. So why go that short cut route ? If you want to lower the car then do it the right or leave it alone.
Get the springs, sport shocks, then adjustble camber arm for the rear. After installation then get the good wheel alignment.
I got the alignment for H&R springs set up, the rear camber is about -2.2 degree which will require camber kit to correct it. Other wise my tires are gonna eat up very fast. So I ordered the TVT Design camber arm, it should be here in few days. I will see how it turns out.
If you really want to lower the car, make sure you save up enough to get all these parts at once, other wise you will waste more money and time to correct the issue. Just my thoughts...
Get the springs, sport shocks, then adjustble camber arm for the rear. After installation then get the good wheel alignment.
I got the alignment for H&R springs set up, the rear camber is about -2.2 degree which will require camber kit to correct it. Other wise my tires are gonna eat up very fast. So I ordered the TVT Design camber arm, it should be here in few days. I will see how it turns out.
If you really want to lower the car, make sure you save up enough to get all these parts at once, other wise you will waste more money and time to correct the issue. Just my thoughts...
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quite true. however, i dont feel justified in spending 2k on suspension when im going for looks i dont autox or anything like that.
to me, at least for now because i dont have much knowledge over it, maybe it will change after i choose whatever i choose, but c/o are c/o and springs are springs.
they get the job done. i dont go for spirited runs as often as i used to. but i hate the drop the the sub gave me in the rear compared to the front. its like a 4 finger gap in the front and a 2 finger gap in the rear. which is why i have to consider c/o because i want an even look. even with springs, it will look off and i dont want a tucked look.
i know we drive a benz and not a honda. but if a member, and a reliable one at that got them for those reasons, and likes them. i dont see whats the harm in trying them. they get the job done dont they?
they also provide a damper. so i mean i dont see it as a short cut route
but then again, ive never felt the difference between springs or coils on a mercedes. all i read are reviews from other members.
i guess to sum it up, i feel that a drop is a drop. as long as it is DDable, i mean if it gets the job done from point a to b without discomfort then i dont see why not. i mean if anything, if i dont like my set up, either return it and upgrade to a better one and see the difference.
to me, at least for now because i dont have much knowledge over it, maybe it will change after i choose whatever i choose, but c/o are c/o and springs are springs.
they get the job done. i dont go for spirited runs as often as i used to. but i hate the drop the the sub gave me in the rear compared to the front. its like a 4 finger gap in the front and a 2 finger gap in the rear. which is why i have to consider c/o because i want an even look. even with springs, it will look off and i dont want a tucked look.
i know we drive a benz and not a honda. but if a member, and a reliable one at that got them for those reasons, and likes them. i dont see whats the harm in trying them. they get the job done dont they?
they also provide a damper. so i mean i dont see it as a short cut route
but then again, ive never felt the difference between springs or coils on a mercedes. all i read are reviews from other members.
i guess to sum it up, i feel that a drop is a drop. as long as it is DDable, i mean if it gets the job done from point a to b without discomfort then i dont see why not. i mean if anything, if i dont like my set up, either return it and upgrade to a better one and see the difference.
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After market springs with stock struts/shocks is a NO NO on the W209 !!! The dampers works fine but the rebound feel like one of those Honda bouncing off the road when you go over a bump. I'm currently running Eibach spring and Bilstein strut/shocks and I love it.
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After one week of riding with H&R springs w/ OEM shocks..., I felt like I am driving TOYOTA Camry..., the 99 Camry not the 2010 one...lol Plus if you have 19" wheels with wider tires..., make sure you get the "good" alignment. Made the car rides day and night !
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How the hell you lucky enough to test drive both of those cars !!!!!!! Should I trade in my Mercedes for one of those?
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I'm in the same boat now. Got 19" rims on and now I have a 4x4 
I don't care much for the tucked look but want an even look. The rear right now is fine with me but the front is at least 1.5" too high.
So its H&R / Eibachs (prefear do to softer ride) springs with maybe Koni yellow shocks and I guess I would also need the camber kit to correct it. Thats about $1000 right there.
That was my second option, just forget about springs/shocks/camber arm, and just go with the coilovers. The D2 or Ksport (same) for $1000 as well and that would allow even look and lots of adjustability to fine tune the suspension they way I like it.
Sorry for slightly taking over your thread. I will start a new one
I don't care much for the tucked look but want an even look. The rear right now is fine with me but the front is at least 1.5" too high.
So its H&R / Eibachs (prefear do to softer ride) springs with maybe Koni yellow shocks and I guess I would also need the camber kit to correct it. Thats about $1000 right there.
i was actually thinking about getting d2 c/o. they are fairly cheap and have damper adjustability. but it really depends on my financial situation. they cost the same as a set of springs and shocks and one of them members with a c55 said he really liked them so it changed my view of the set.
Sorry for slightly taking over your thread. I will start a new one
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Even you have the coilover, you still might need the camber kit if you lower the rear. Just remember those coilover you see on eBay like "Ksport" are cheaply made in China. I had seen them and rode in one. The quality is not there. Also if you want softer ride, do not go with coilover, the spring rate on these coilover is way stiffer than H&R or Eibach springs.
Just remember if you can't install the springs yourself, try to save money on just putting the springs only. You will have to spend twice as much on labor. If I can start all over again, I would just install everything at once include the camber kit. I am tired of taking suspension parts out over and over lolol
Just remember if you can't install the springs yourself, try to save money on just putting the springs only. You will have to spend twice as much on labor. If I can start all over again, I would just install everything at once include the camber kit. I am tired of taking suspension parts out over and over lolol
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very interesting. thank you for your insight and i didnt want to seem hostile earlier either. i just wanted to explain what i had thought. however, i was linked to mikes(temjinx) posts about the review on the d2s and he loved them, thats all.
but maybe i'll play the pads in the rear for now and see if i can raise it back up so i can get an even drop when if i choose eibach or something.
the other thing about d2 is that i would probably get them installed professionally so it doesnt void the warranty. if something goes wrong, its covered. lol
but then again thats my 2 cents.
but maybe i'll play the pads in the rear for now and see if i can raise it back up so i can get an even drop when if i choose eibach or something.
the other thing about d2 is that i would probably get them installed professionally so it doesnt void the warranty. if something goes wrong, its covered. lol
but then again thats my 2 cents.
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Thanks for all the info, definitely appreciated.
Good to know, I guess it would depend on the amount of lowering in the rear. Hopefully dropping lets say .5" would limit the camber change and not require the kit. I did read about the kit possibility of 'jitter' and transmitting more road imperfections.
What is not made in China now days? I would not be surprised if a good amount of parts in our cars came from China and were only assembled in Germany but its definitly a consideration. Just not sure if that would convince me to justify the $600-800 extra cost. But then one gets what they pay for. I did read good statements regarding the build quality of the D2 (same as Ksport).
Very good point, get it done at the same time.
There is a post for W210 from couple members that are in a process of installing the Ksport. Will be waiting on their feedback / reviews.
https://mbworld.org/forums/w210-amg/...ml#post4079243
I was reading the manual for the Ksport and looks like they will not warranty them if they are used for daily driving and implies its for track use.
"Please keep in mind that these systems are for OFF ROAD USE ONLY."
http://www.ksportusa.com/edocs/Coilo...structions.pdf
The two posts I found with some more info and pics:
http://mymbonline.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=481035
http://club202.com/forums/showthread...light=coilover
I would not be surprised if a good amount of parts in our cars came from China and were only assembled in Germany but its definitly a consideration. Just not sure if that would convince me to justify the $600-800 extra cost. But then one gets what they pay for. I did read good statements regarding the build quality of the D2 (same as Ksport).https://mbworld.org/forums/w210-amg/...ml#post4079243
"Please keep in mind that these systems are for OFF ROAD USE ONLY."
http://www.ksportusa.com/edocs/Coilo...structions.pdf
The two posts I found with some more info and pics:
http://mymbonline.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=481035
http://club202.com/forums/showthread...light=coilover
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interesting. i will give d2 a call. they have a dealer in socal. ask them about their warranty.
https://mbworld.org/forums/c32-amg-c...-review-2.html
thats temjinx2's review. and he said hed update it soon. but im with you on that dariusf, i dont know about spending another (extra) 800 on suspension when i dont track what so ever. lol
and i heard d2 is manufactured in taiwan. but
*update* d2 has a 1 year warranty. it does not void if you install it yourself and does not void if you use it for daily driving. and if you get them on ebay, warranty still applies. but their cs wasnt their best. i will def call again when if i purchase to talk to a manager or something to make sure that i wont get owned for doing any of the items listed above.
https://mbworld.org/forums/c32-amg-c...-review-2.html
thats temjinx2's review. and he said hed update it soon. but im with you on that dariusf, i dont know about spending another (extra) 800 on suspension when i dont track what so ever. lol
and i heard d2 is manufactured in taiwan. but
*update* d2 has a 1 year warranty. it does not void if you install it yourself and does not void if you use it for daily driving. and if you get them on ebay, warranty still applies. but their cs wasnt their best. i will def call again when if i purchase to talk to a manager or something to make sure that i wont get owned for doing any of the items listed above.
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Yes I'm on the fence now. Would like to get the front lowered but spending over $1k + installation is a bit much. I guess I will wait a bit to see if there are any updates from the other people.
Another issue to consider is if you can fit the coil overs with the wheels you have. I have 19x8.5 32mm offset Monarch EURO 63 with 225/35/19 Toyo FZ4 on the front and using 3mm spacers now. The wheel is nicely flush with the fender now and not sure if I can push it out any more. There is a good chance that the inside of the rim or the tire will hit the shock when using something with bigger diameter then the stock shock.
Another issue to consider is if you can fit the coil overs with the wheels you have. I have 19x8.5 32mm offset Monarch EURO 63 with 225/35/19 Toyo FZ4 on the front and using 3mm spacers now. The wheel is nicely flush with the fender now and not sure if I can push it out any more. There is a good chance that the inside of the rim or the tire will hit the shock when using something with bigger diameter then the stock shock.
