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Old 12-09-2005 | 09:45 PM
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is the front low enough?

I keep looking at my car with the Euro-AMG springs and keep thinking that the front is still too high about 3/4 of an inch. I have 2 bump pads already so that is done. Any ideas on how to get it down? Maybe 225/18/45 tires? I need to have the tires snug. Hey, maybe it's me, maybe its fine as it is...let me know what you think....please. Thanks. Learso
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Old 12-09-2005 | 10:31 PM
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Your car looks clean, but not lowered, it still has a factory look. I'm not sure the look you are going for. You can go to #1 pads but the will only help you with about 4mm lower. I know my car took about 4 months to fully settle. It seemed like it dropped about 3/8" over time. I wouldn't put different tires to close the gap. I would sell your springs and buy Eibach or H&R springs. The H&R's have the biggest drop but ride a tad tighter.
By the way I always wanted a CLK 55.
Let us know how you solve the problem
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Old 12-09-2005 | 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Learso
I keep looking at my car with the Euro-AMG springs and keep thinking that the front is still too high about 3/4 of an inch. I have 2 bump pads already so that is done. Any ideas on how to get it down? Maybe 225/18/45 tires? I need to have the tires snug. Hey, maybe it's me, maybe its fine as it is...let me know what you think....please. Thanks. Learso
Give it some time,the car will settle to a lower height.
Old 12-10-2005 | 08:16 AM
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Ya, 4mm is really insignificant for my purpose, I need something closer to 3/4 inch. How do the H&R Springs feel in relation to the Euro-Spec springs? I have had my new Springs since the summer, I think they are settled in and won't give more. Only thing is I really like the ride. But I am willing to experiment. I know some tuning companies offer different solutions, curious to know the feel difference..Brabus, Kleeman, Renntech...Do they make their own or are they just under their name?

E55, this was car's stock spring look...HORRIFIC!


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Old 12-10-2005 | 09:03 AM
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I have the H&R cup kit and I love it. Its not as harsh as some people say but its definitely not stock either. Hopefully theres someone in your area that has this setup and will take you for a spin to see how you like it. Handling is a million times better.
Old 12-10-2005 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Learso
Ya, 4mm is really insignificant for my purpose, I need something closer to 3/4 inch. How do the H&R Springs feel in relation to the Euro-Spec springs? I have had my new Springs since the summer, I think they are settled in and go give more. Only thing is I really like the ride. But I am willing to experiment. I know some tuning companies offer different solutions, curious to know the feel difference..Brabus, Kleeman, Renntech...Do they make their own or are they just under their name?

E55, this is was car's stock look...


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There is quite a difference from stock. My car rides close to stock not too much difference, I would say 15% tighter. You might want to go with Eibach and get the #1pads.
As far as the other companies like Kleeman, and Brabus. I would guess other people make them, just like Koni makes them for Dinan but then charges 3 times the abount
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Old 12-10-2005 | 11:32 AM
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E55cent---curious to know if your rims rub? Any mods? What offset are they? Car looks beautiful!
Old 12-10-2005 | 11:32 AM
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Thumbs up Personally, I think it looks just right...

I really don't like the "wheels tucked in the fender" look. Maybe you could go with the lower spring pad, but I imagine that it won't make too much of a difference. Also, from what I've read, there is a potential problem if a car is lowered too far. Apparantely if the front control arm drops below a 90 degree plane, the suspension geometry will be altered in such a way as to create positive camber during cornering. Being that you really ought to wait to see how far the car settles anyway, I'd observe the tire wear patterns to see if you are indeed inducing positive camber during cornering. You could also have someone take a picture of he car while you're cornering, or devise some other method to determine if you're inducing positive camber...


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Originally Posted by Learso
I keep looking at my car with the Euro-AMG springs and keep thinking that the front is still too high about 3/4 of an inch. I have 2 bump pads already so that is done. Any ideas on how to get it down? Maybe 225/18/45 tires? I need to have the tires snug. Hey, maybe it's me, maybe its fine as it is...let me know what you think....please. Thanks. Learso
B4 you go thru buying different springs,changing shox,spending $$$$,getting another alignment,etc,etc, I would try using #1 pads in the front like Mario stated.You seem to like the way the back sits and the car does look lowered to me compared to stck.Try using #1 pads in the front. When I did not like the look of my car when I lowered it I changed the rear pads.The car was just to low in the rear compared to the front.
Old 12-10-2005 | 12:22 PM
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I have seen that they make 19" Monoblock IIS, I wonder if they would fit? If I went to 19" it would have to remain AMG. Anyway, I enjoy reading all the opinions from the experts in this forum...thank you.

--- another idea to run by you guys...what about getting Koni struts and adjustable shock absobers to lower it? Would this be an upgrade to what is already on the car?????

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Old 12-10-2005 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Learso

--- another idea to run by you guys...what about getting Koni struts and adjustable shock absobers to lower it?
They won't lower the car,they only adjust the stiffness of the shocks(firm to soft) depending on the driving style you want.
Old 12-10-2005 | 04:00 PM
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Actually they say they do lower the car about 10mm.
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Holy Moly! You mean to tell me that US spec AMG suspension is even higher than that?? What for?

Is it US bumper height regulations?

Here's my CLK with Gulf Spec AMG stock suspension, amazing difference!

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Originally Posted by Learso
Actually they say they do lower the car about 10mm.
Cheapest route is to use #1 spring pads in front and try #2's in the rear.
Old 12-10-2005 | 04:32 PM
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Holy Moly! You mean to tell me that US spec AMG suspension is even higher than that?? What for?

Is it US bumper height regulations?

Here's my CLK with Gulf Spec AMG stock suspension, amazing difference!

I love those rims!
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E55cent---curious to know if your rims rub? Any mods? What offset are they? Car looks beautiful!
I have no more rubbing issues because I had the rear fenders re-rolled. The back clear the rear fenders by 2mm and clears the brakes by less than 1mm. I'm also using 8mm spacers. I had tons of rubbing issues in the front, so I had the back of wheels milled down almost 10mm to bring the tires inward and now there is no more problems. I'm guessing the offsets are 32rear and 33 front. I also running 245 and 275 tires.
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Old 12-10-2005 | 05:46 PM
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Ahmed,

Nice refreshing color and nice 2/5 rims. I am imagining that those are 18" 8 front 9 rear? The suspension you see on my car now is most likely the same you have. For some reason mine looks a bit higher. Maybe its because the PS2 are more curved than other tires?

Let me know the set up you have.

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Ahmed,

Nice refreshing color and nice 2/5 rims. I am imagining that those are 18" 8 front 9 rear? The suspension you see on my car now is most likely the same you have. For some reason mine looks a bit higher. Maybe its because the PS2 are more curved than other tires?

Let me know the set up you have.

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Those look like 19" rims on his car!


hey Mario I called you the other evening but u did not call me back!
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Those look like 19" rims on his car!


hey Mario I called you the other evening but u did not call me back!
Sorry bro, I'm a bad Mercedes friend. I will call you tomorrow, so I can see if you are going order that supercharger. I know you don't want to run around in a N/A benz.
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Sorry bro, I'm a bad Mercedes friend. I will call you tomorrow, so I can see if you are going order that supercharger. I know you don't want to run around in a N/A benz.
it's coming this spring!
Old 12-11-2005 | 05:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Learso
Ahmed,

Nice refreshing color and nice 2/5 rims. I am imagining that those are 18" 8 front 9 rear? The suspension you see on my car now is most likely the same you have. For some reason mine looks a bit higher. Maybe its because the PS2 are more curved than other tires?

Let me know the set up you have.

Learso
Hi Learso

Yes, they are 18 inch SL Type Monoblocks! 8.5x18 front and 9.5x18 rear! The tyre sizes are 235/40/ZR18 front, and 265/35/ZR18 rear! Michelin Pilots!
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Ahmed,

Shukran. After lots of reading and searching I notice that the most agressive stance that I find not looking over the top comes with 18/8.5 235/40/18 front and 18/9.5 (or 10 if i fits) 265/35/18 rear. Your set up is similar to the 1999 F1 CLK55 Safety Car. It's a fantastic look and after looking into it those tires were also 265/35/18 in the rear...which probably means the rims were 9.5 as well. I will sell my set up and get new rims and tires. I may even go with Koni shocks and H&R Springs with higher pad bump as well....I am guessing this will be the best look for me. Your car looks great.

The only thing I am still in the air about is if 18/10 wheels fit in in the rear with an 265/30/18 rim? The website of Carlsson has this size as an option for our cars. The pics don't look too bad either.

edited---scratch that huge cost alternative...I am getting wheel spacers.

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Old 12-11-2005 | 03:32 PM
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Yes, the Carlsson's will fit. However, a big possibility that you might need to roll your fenders!
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Originally Posted by Learso
I keep looking at my car with the Euro-AMG springs and keep thinking that the front is still too high about 3/4 of an inch. I have 2 bump pads already so that is done. Any ideas on how to get it down? Maybe 225/18/45 tires? I need to have the tires snug. Hey, maybe it's me, maybe its fine as it is...let me know what you think....please. Thanks. Learso
On a 911, we measure the height of the fenders, using the center cap of the wheels as the centerline. See the rear wheel of the attached photo as an example. In order to determine whether the front is too height in relation to the rear, I would first note the front to rear height difference on a stock car, and try to emulate that. On my CLK430, the two heights are identical. There may be a difference on a CLK55.
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https://mbworld.org/forums/classifieds/129702-fs-h-r-sport-lowering-springs-w208-clk55-amg.html
This guy is selling his H&R's for CLK 55 in the classifieds right now. You should jump on them.
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