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http://rapidshare.de/files/21065231/...0_amg.avi.html

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King320

no way was that a CLK 320 like the title says (plus there's no 320 AMG). an M3 will crush a 320, especially a cabrio. That guy in the M3 was a terrible driver.

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The folder name is like that in my archives.So this is the point of view.

Benz Power haaa?

Bogdan

is this a CLK320 Brabus version ?

bixby

I just test drove an 06 M3 before purchasing my CLK 55. The thing is a complete dog. It has 36 more horse than the 350Z I sold and performed like it had 50 less!! Plus the shifter is such a long throw you feel like your shifting a pickup truck.

I haven't driven the 320 but I doubt I'd be nearly as disapointed as I was with the BMW.

spshond

If a 320 can beat an M3, which by the way is a beautiful engine, Iam going out there with my 430 and challenging a M5. I love BMW's, Ive always owned one until now ( CLK 430 ). I had an M3, M6, 330CI and a Dinan 540i. The only way that a 320 can beat a M3, is if its my 3 year old son driving the car.

blackbenzz

Sorry, a 320 is not gonna beat an M3. A 55 will but not a 320.

Improviz

....you can plainly hear it's a V8, not a V6. This car was falsely claimed to be a supercharged AMG at one time, but there's no supercharger whine in the video, which would be audible (not to mention that a supercharged 55 would be about ten lengths out rather than 1.5 or so...).

AndrewAZ

When I first saw this video about a year ago it the CLK was listed as a CLK 55 AMG that was sent to brabus and made into a brabus 5.8.

Even with a bad driver in the M3 having over 120 hp difference doesn't take skill to win. For example if I started out in 2nd gear and I had a CLK 320 next to me I would be able to mash the gas in 2nd gear and still put distance on the 320. Even a 36 hp over a 350Z is a big amount I have never lost to one and I pull like mad so just imagine what 120 hp difference would look like, Kind of like an E55 racing an M3.

bixby

Don't get me wrong I love the M3 and actually went to the BMW dealership specifically to purchase the 06. After driving it I just couldn't make myself give up that much performance. The 350Z at nearly half the price was superior in handling, quickness and much, much better throttle response. Not to mention the short throw compared to the "granny" shifter in the BMW.

I drove the M5 as well and liked it but I've been driving sportscars for a long time and just couldn't buy that big sedan. I absolutely love the 6 series but had a hard time justifying spending the money for a car I'll put 25,000 miles a year on.

So I settled for a used certified CLK55 AMG with 17,000 miles on it I'm not really beating myself up over the decission.

355Spider

I guess it's different strokes for different folks but I owned two E46M3s in the past and they are some of the most well rounded sports cars out there and I have driven them all(or most). There's very good reason they have been on the top ten list for Road and Track for like 13 years running. The balance, handling, braking, accelerating and just general overall feel are matched by very few cars. Not even my Ferrari 355 was as well rounded.
My buddy has a 350Z and I can't sand driving that numb slow car. It's terrible. It's alot slower. We raced quite a few times. My M3 always ran away from my friends CLK430 as well so a 320 would be a joke. I never go the chance to race a CLK55 before I sold my last one.

bixby

Again, don't get me wrong. My plan was to buy the M3. I drove straight to the BMW dealership to do so. But I stepped right out of the 350 into the 06 M3 and there is no way it's a better sports car. A bit better breaking but thats about it. No way is it faster. Perhaps you're just a better driver. It's well rated in it's class perhaps but it's a 60k car versus the 34k 350Z. I can see why some dont like the 350 as it does ride extremely rough and isn't for everyone. My wife hated being a passenger (as did I) but it was an absolute blast to drive.

Holson

I've been a passenger in the E46 M3 and I gotta say... that thing pulls so hard to the redline. The power delivery is so sweet, very linear.

I was considering one as a replacement for my E-Class (gone), but the cheapest one I could find was a silver convertible with 73k mi (certified though)... hardly desirable anymore.

So I passed the idea and got a certified W208 CLK55 with 26k miles, which is the same price as some 330ci.. I'll check out the new M3 in the future instead

Actually, I'd love to have a friendly race with my friend's E46 M3 sometimes and then swap cars. We'll see.. not exactly feeling racy these days.

BTW... nice Ferrari 355.

*Speaking of 350Z - I think it's hard to beat for a $30k+ car (brand new)... and in my opinion it looks killer for the money too!

clkal

werd. you can't compare a e46 m3 to a 350z. the m3 beats the 350z in nearly EVERY performance category....

i owned a 350z. it's a dog compared to the e46 m3's. it's probably more similar to a e36 m3's performance numbers....stock on stock.

355Spider

Yeah I agree. The Z is great for the price no doubt but it just isn't a better sports car in any repect, and shouldn't be, when compared to the M3. The M3should be better for what you pay. You must have driven a lemon Bixby because both of my M3s which were heavy onvertibles used to outrun Zs very easily on a regular basis. Actually I raced my Ferrari 355 several times against my M3 and they were dead even. Pissed me off as the M3 was my wife's car. They would both hand right on the bumper of C5 Vette Convertibles(automatic). M3s are pretty quick and very good driving sports cars. They do everything right. I liked driving them better than the Gallardo(uninspiring, tame, quiet), Porsche TT Cabrio(numb, quiet, no feel brakes). It's really hard to find a car that feels so good all the way around. My new Z06 is that times ten though. Simply amazing. Now I just need an SL65 for top down nights cruising. How much does a kidney go for these days?

Improviz

Wow, you've really driven and owned a lot of cars...so do you still have the Ferrari, then, or did you sell it when you got the 'vette? And do you still have the M3 Cab?

Also, could you recommend a good Ferrari forum? Friend of mine just got an F430, and he's wanting to converse with fellow owners.

Oh, and you mentioned that you are leasing the F355....I take it you leased it used, then? What's a good place to look for one...this sounds interesting.

355Spider

Yeah i've been fortunate to have driven lots. I'm a sports car nut all the way around. I sold the Ferrari and the M3 to get down to one car for me. Baby came along and we had to save somewhere. I ama long time member of Ferrarichat.com and it's a great site. Good members that are very knowledgeable. Many members on this site belong to Ferrarichat. The F430 or the CS will be my next one. I love the CS. It is one of the purest driving experiences out there. You feel alive in that car. Hardwired into it. There's nothing else like it. I did leasemine used thru premier. It's an open ended lease you can get out of at any time and the 355 has stopped depreciating much so you can get pretty good rates. My vette cost the same as my 355 spider which was 50k more expensive. Lease a 95/96 and you could get a really good rate. It is a sweet car to drive no doubt. Classic Ferrari. Good luck.

Improviz

Interesting...do they have a website? Also, what state are you in? Texas, still?

r3v1ls

Please don't compare a M3 to a 350Z, I find it offensive .

AndrewAZ

Have you ever driven an M3? The inside of the 350Z is a joke of plastic and bad layout. It doesn't take a good driver in an M3 to beat a 350Z its not even funny how much faster an M3 is compared to a 350Z in a strait line. I have SMG so I don't get the best starts but I raced a few 350Z they seem to always think they can win. To this day in the M3 I have never lost to a 350Z or G35 coupe and its not even close from 0-60 or on the freeway from 50-80. Please don't fill anymore 350Z drivers heads with false information about how they are almost as fast as an M3 they are annoying as it is. Rumor around is a E350 is a good race for the 350Z and an E500 will smoke one. Neon SRT (NOS)>M3>E500>E350=350Z

rbc55

there had to be something wrong w/the m3,i've driven both vehicles. the m3 is a superior vehicle to the 350z IMO.

rbc55

back in 2002 i had an ml55 and i raced my friend in his 350z.i had three other passengers compared to the extra passenger he had.we raced 3 times from a stoplight up to around 80,i holeshot him so bad he never caught up,and yes he obviously wasn't a good driver.nevertheless,quite embarassing for him.

ash-c32

I had a 350z for 6 months, excellent car for the money but felt slow for 280hp
guess it was the +1500kg weight. An M3 would be comfortably quicker (about the same as my old c32 give or take). My 02 996 c2 is comfortably quicker than an m3 (based on kicking two samples in the last 6 months)

Anyway 350z is good for those trading up from 325i`s/RX8`s/Golf GTi`s and although not very quick it did have entertaining handling and it definately looks good

kip

This is a really wierd thread... There is no way a 320 will be even close to a M3. Please, the m3 is 0-100 in 4.8 sec. It can even keep up with a CLK 55. Probably not with the CLK 63. I even beat a 430 5 times in a row from the lights with my old BMW 540iA. The cars that are being compared should not be compared. They are all nice cars, but be realistic!