AMG posers
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Found this on USA today website.
By Chris Woodyard, USA TODAY
Cruising the streets of Southern California, officials at Kelley Blue Book, an auto-buying service, say they've seen Mercedes eight-cylinder coupes rebadged as 12-cylinder versions, a sedan with emblems that would make it a coupe, and fake high-performance AMG or Brabus.
By Chris Woodyard, USA TODAY
Cruising the streets of Southern California, officials at Kelley Blue Book, an auto-buying service, say they've seen Mercedes eight-cylinder coupes rebadged as 12-cylinder versions, a sedan with emblems that would make it a coupe, and fake high-performance AMG or Brabus.
#1460
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Excuse my ignorance here but just to be clear, the AMG sport package has never included the AMG badge right since it's really just the appearance package? I remember my friend had a 2008 or 2008 E350 with AMG sport package and I remember he had the badge on there, not sure if he was a poser or what as he got the car on lease.
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I don't understand why there's any confusion over this at all. The appearance packages never came with the AMG badge. Ever. Period.
On occasion dealers are known to stick on the badge at the dealer upon delivery. Again not at the discretion of the factory but the dealers do it.
The only way to get an AMG badge on the trunk is to get an AMG engine in your car from the factory. It's pretty cut and dry.
On occasion dealers are known to stick on the badge at the dealer upon delivery. Again not at the discretion of the factory but the dealers do it.
The only way to get an AMG badge on the trunk is to get an AMG engine in your car from the factory. It's pretty cut and dry.
#1463
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I don't understand why there's any confusion over this at all. The appearance packages never came with the AMG badge. Ever. Period.
On occasion dealers are known to stick on the badge at the dealer upon delivery. Again not at the discretion of the factory but the dealers do it.
The only way to get an AMG badge on the trunk is to get an AMG engine in your car from the factory. It's pretty cut and dry.
On occasion dealers are known to stick on the badge at the dealer upon delivery. Again not at the discretion of the factory but the dealers do it.
The only way to get an AMG badge on the trunk is to get an AMG engine in your car from the factory. It's pretty cut and dry.
NO Engine, NO Badge. It should be crystal by the many times repeated.
#1464
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Oh okay sorry I just wasn't sure. That was my understanding NO AMG Engine = NO AMG badge but the dealer practice of sticking a badge on is what I was confused about but that explains it. Thanks.
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Guys,
I need your help. I'm new to MBZ and have the opportunity tomorrow to test drive what the dealer has advertised as a 2002 CLK 55 AMG Convertible, i.e. Cabriolet. It says that the vehicle is running the 5.5L M113 V8 and a 5 speed automatic transmission. The vehicle has VIN: WDBLK74G52T11022. Is this a real AMG or has someone just badged it that way in an effort to hype the sale of the car? Given the prevalence of AMG appearance packages as I understand it the easiest way for a layman/newbie to tell if a given car is the real deal is to pop the hood and see if the engine is badged and signed, is that correct? Any easy indicators like that you guys can give me to look for tomorrow would be greatly appreciated as I would rather not waste a lot of time at a dealership that is selling fake goods. Further I definitely don't want to think that I bought one thing only to find out that I actually bought another. Thanks.
I need your help. I'm new to MBZ and have the opportunity tomorrow to test drive what the dealer has advertised as a 2002 CLK 55 AMG Convertible, i.e. Cabriolet. It says that the vehicle is running the 5.5L M113 V8 and a 5 speed automatic transmission. The vehicle has VIN: WDBLK74G52T11022. Is this a real AMG or has someone just badged it that way in an effort to hype the sale of the car? Given the prevalence of AMG appearance packages as I understand it the easiest way for a layman/newbie to tell if a given car is the real deal is to pop the hood and see if the engine is badged and signed, is that correct? Any easy indicators like that you guys can give me to look for tomorrow would be greatly appreciated as I would rather not waste a lot of time at a dealership that is selling fake goods. Further I definitely don't want to think that I bought one thing only to find out that I actually bought another. Thanks.
#1467
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Amg didn't start signing the engine until 2003. The way to tell on that car is if the speedo says amg and there's two exhaust tips on that car.
Back then the CLK430 and 55s looks very similar.
Back then the CLK430 and 55s looks very similar.
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I'll have to take issue with the Brabus mention. Brabus Germany is not the same as AMG in how they brand their vehicles and operate, ie sell aftermarket parts. They are a true aftermarket company and they will themselves build a car with the body kit, interior components, wheels, exhaust - everything but the engine modifications - and place a Brabus badge. Difference is you don't get the engine designation. The old Brabus website was filled with vehicles with badge and cosmetic modifications only. I used to have the body kit, wheels and exhaust and spoke to Brabus in newport beach years ago about this and they've also badged cars with just minor Brabus upgrades. Completely different company and mo. AMG does not build partial AMG cars with the trunk badge.
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Brabus does it, AMG does not.
Carlsson does it, AMG does not
Xyzzy tuner does it, AMG does not
Point is these companies WANT their names on the vehicle, engine or not. They don't see their badge as an engine indicator.
I'll leave it at that. Simple.
#1474
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I definitely see your point lowpost but here's my thought on it, Brabus and other such companies are performance and aftermarket TUNING companies. I mean their true purpose is to rebuild or modify engines from a range of high end cars in order to ratchet as much power out of them as possible. I see their motivation, but if it is just an appearance package, doesn't that defeat the purpose of having a high-performance tuning company touch your car? That IS what they are classified as.
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Merce...#ht_500wt_1182
Seriously?! S63 rebadged as S65. Like WTF. Already such a nice car. And no, he didn't make it look "just like an S65" that dumbass didn't change the exhaust tips.
Also for some reason there's 3 Maybach 57 on eBay right now badged as "57s."
Seriously?! S63 rebadged as S65. Like WTF. Already such a nice car. And no, he didn't make it look "just like an S65" that dumbass didn't change the exhaust tips.
Also for some reason there's 3 Maybach 57 on eBay right now badged as "57s."