you really like those smileys ay? you asked for a video so i showed you one...? then asked what you wanted specifically in a video and all i get is a smiley....

that's because you video was awful! LOL

sorry man i'll work on my videos

Name calling? No need for that as I simply said I would race you so you could see what makes an AMG car (not just engine).

As far as horsepower, my engine already produces over 1,050 HP so I don't think the plastic emblems would help. Maybe i should remove the little plastic emblems so I can set the record of worlds fastest mercedes...oh wait a minute, I already have that record.

As you don't know who I am, here are a couple of videos.



How much power are your producing?

My apologies as I mistook you as an ignorant amg owner. The engine has stock internals and is rated at 360 from the factory so I'd assume realistically somewhere around 350. Whether or not my car is "real amg", with a 1000 hp you're going to beat just about any "real amg"...so I don't see your point really

Lesson here..don't assume.

Have a good weekend.

And I respect your car and the fact that you actually know what you're doing with it. I'm curious as to what your personal opinion is on what exactly seperates a cl500 and cl55 (naturally aspirated as my car is an 02)?

Sorry buddy but I know nothing of the cars you speak(at least I am honest). My comment is that there is more to an AMG than just an engine. If you put an amg up on a lift and look at the engineering on the car underneath, you will then see the difference.

Very nice man, your BS is sick

I have no idea how this argument even lasted 2-3 threads.

Putting a CL55 engine inside of a CL500 does NOT magically turn it into a CL55. It's not rocket science. It's common sense.

All you have is a CL500 with a engine swap.

The end.

I was going to chime in on this matter, but then I saw Ctrav's age. I must give him a pass. He is just a child. The trite old adage of young, dumb and full of crap truly applies. Oh wait, did I get the saying wrong?

Hey ecampbell, freaking awesome bro. Maybe you should hang out on benzforum. The rest of us are certainly not worthy at least as I suspect from our young friend.

Weistc has worked some magic and we now have an extra 100 horse...but summer is not the time to set records...

Well I appreciate your honesty. And forgive me if I came off as rude I just do not see any significant differences between my cl500 and a cl55 besides the amg brakes.... I would like to think I'm a understanding person. If anybody can please share with me the significant differences between the cl500 and cl55 i would gladly re consider calling my car a cl55

To me, the model designation on a Mercedes is the class (cl,clk,e) and the number after the class representing the drivetrain. I just don't get how my car can be a cl500 without a 500 engine? If anything I guess it's a cl55 NON AMG, just with damn near all the same parts as the real amg?

It just seems like nobody can actually give me a straight answer as to what exactly seperates my car from an amg? No insult intended, but if you don't actually know then why do you feel the need to add your input?

Well since you are being a bit more sensical now and not spamming there is more than goes into an AMG than just the engine and trans

Below are the completely different parts i know off off hand for the W215 CL but if anyone wants to add or audit my post feel free

-engine
-trans
-ECU
-TCU
-software management systems
-entire front and rear suspension
-entire exhaust
-wheels
-seats
-rear axel
-front bumper
-rear bumper
-side skirts
-hood?
-instrument cluster
-steering wheel
-brake rotors
-brake calipers
-brake pads

We all know that you can pick up both the AMG and non AMG W215s for cheap now a days but there is a reason there was a $30K+ premium of the CL55 over the CL500 when it was new

i'm pretty sure the ecu is the same between the two models. it wasn't until 03 that the supercharger needed a controller to engage/disengage the clutch therefore requiring a different ecu

all 5 speed benz trannys that have the slap stick (tiptronic) shifting have the "speedshift" technology present in amg's....

hood is the same

side skirts are the same

rear bumper is the same

front bumper is the same

i haven't noticed any differences in the steering wheels? my cl500 came with the wood grain steering wheel (maybe it was an option?) i've seen cl55's that do not have the wood grain steering wheel...if this is the case i'd much rather my wood grain steering wheel

only difference in seats is the plastic logo which is prone to failure...i'd much rather have an amg logo sewn into the seat so it doesn't break off like everybody with the "special amg seats"

both amg and stock w215 comes with the ABC suspension....

i'm not running stock cl500 rims...i have 20 inch staggered set up.....

i could be mistaken in thinking the exhaust pipe diameter is the same, but i know for sure the headers are the same between the two models....i've bypassed my rear mufflers (the only other difference between amg and no amg being the muffler). UNLESS the amg has bigger piping, which is possible although i'm not sure

limited slip was an option on amg models (as far as i know), not all amg's come with the upgraded dif

the only difference i see between my car and the amg versions on your list is my brakes. i understand the amg brakes are better but my stock brembo calipers are nothing to be underestimated. although i do plan on upgrading to either the amg brakes or something better....



i respect your viewpoint but i find your logic flawed. there's no way it cost 100k to build these cars in the first place....let alone an extra 30k to upgrade to amg. mercedes is WELL AWARE they can jack the price up an amg and people will buy it because it says amg

the thing is with the w215 platform is that it is the top of the line model, and stock comes with many of the same components as the amg model. main differences being engine, tranny and brakes (and later the forced induction)

i could see you guys point if i put an amg engine in a e320, but the cl is in a class of its own....

what is the top speed on the 00-02 model cl55 speedometer? if the only difference is the logo then i find the difference in speedometer very trivial...

Wait, wait, wait. You mean you swaped the engine and trans out of your 02' CL500 for the engine from an 02' CL55? This whole time I was under the impression you were trying to turn a 2002 CL500 into a 2003+ CL55 Kompressor

For the 2002 you're right there wasn't a huge difference between the 500 and 55 other than about 54hp and the AMG badge from what i've seen

All of the differences i listed were for the 03'-06' CL55 Kompressor

As for the instrument cluster on the CL55K - The speedo goes to 200mph and has a higher redline at 7K instead of 6K as well as the badging

YES IM SO HAPPY WE'RE FINALLY ON THE SAME PAGE!!! (3 pages later)

do you know if the n/a 55 engine have the same redline as the supercharged 55? i want to get my ecu tuned so i can utilize the extra power because i think mine is still limited to the 500 redline

edit:and like i was trying to explain in my first post which i'm sure you all dismissed, i didn't do it to merely say i have an amg. i had valvetrain issues when someone sabotaged my 500 engine (jealousy is frequent when you're 21 with a w215), and instead of replacing it with another 500 engine, i decided to go amg instead!

I win, you all suck (except campbell because that is a nice ride)

shout out to all the bandwagoners who jumped on his side with his ignorant first post about my car

sucks when an uneducated kid proves you wrong ay?

For ctravis =) You made my day with your pathetic display, hahahaha.


Log off son.

let's make sure everybody can see what your 115 pound excuse for a man said before you decided to edit it

Here is the message that has just been posted:
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---Quote (Originally by ctravis595)---
this is a vid i took after the first time i started the new amg engine

W215 CL500 to CL55 AMG engine swap start up - YouTube ( )

i'm not really sure what kind of video you want me to take of my car? do you want like a walk around or some silly video of me doing donuts and driving recklessly on public roads?
---End Quote---
"You speak like you have a **** in your mouth.
As for all of the other personal attacks you made, you're hilarious. You really car."

let's be real here man, are you upset you were proven wrong by a 21 year old punk kid? or just that you know he's got much bigger ***** than you...(physically and metaphorically)

and i must say, it was you who made MY DAY with your story about how awesome you are in traffic ahahahahahahaha

go learn how to change your own oil you sad little excuse for a man. i'll be over here rebuilding my engines and trannys like a REAL man would....

i didn't make my video for you. i would never waste my time making one for you in the first place. i merely showed you a video i had already taken when i was first starting up my AMG after my engine swap lol. you're just digging a deeper hole but please continue with whatever ingenious comment you have to add next...

i speak like i have a dick in my mouth but you're the one boasting on the internet about how you told some "powerlifter" to hit you in traffic ahahahahahaha you're sad dude go find a hobby or something