iyeoh

And at the end of the day, it is still much ado about nothing. It's a bunch of owners of 5 year old to 10 year old cars (including myself) hyped up about some stupid $30 badge because of this self-inflated view of a brand called AMG.

When I look at a guy slapping on the badge, I laugh it off and move on. I don't get into a hissy fit. The gentleman in question has a hacked up 11 year old car. Let him put on his silly EBay-ed badge.

Just this past weekend, I chewed out a kid about to vandalize a car with an illegitimate AMG badge. That was totally uncalled for. I told the kid that, AMG or not, the kid has car with a market value of $20K. The car he was about to vandalize cost $140K. Nobody has any right to place stickers or tape papers on anyone's trunk, and I told the kid the cops are on the way if he does not leave immediately.

ctravis595

straight from the authority on car badges themselves, self certified 10 years in a row, top seller on ebay, high markings on BBB. would do business again

ctravis595

i think by "hacked up" he's referring to my homemade amg, a claim in which i will not refute at all. most mercedes owners don't get involved on the mechanical side of things and generally keep them as OEM as possible

hyperion667

cindyclk

Maybe all the AMG posers can have a meet at the beach and spin (their tales of why they think they are AMGs) round and round.

AMGAffalterbach

In my personal opinion as I will state again, if it is built as an AMG out of the factory - with an AMG vin and genuine AMG components - it is an AMG. If it is not, then it is not. Simple as that.

Ahmed

Whaaaaat?

You mean if I stick an engine from an SL65 Black Series into my 190E, my car will not be an AMG???? OMG all that time and effort wasted.. and I don't get to call my car an AMG?????

I think I'm gonna go rant on everyone now! Cause you hurt my feelings!!

ctravis595

great analogy

ctravis595

makes sense to me

edit: this whole thing was actually a learning experience for me to be honest

Stiggs

As long as you've learned what a poser is then we've done our jobs! If your VIN# doesn't get you into The Private Lounge and you have an AMG badge on your car, then you are a poser.
Its pretty straight forward.

ctravis595

Who said that? I just noted that his analogy made sense

Lmao even if I went out and bought 5 amg's I wouldn't give two ****s about the no girls allowed amg club ahahahaha

If anything, I consider a lot of you guys posers for driving performance oriented cars yet lacking any kind of ability to utilize them. Let alone the fact that most of you "men" would have an extremely hard time changing your oil lmao

edit: to me, amg is about performance. not silly internet clubs that wreak of elitism and narcissism lol. hence my original post telling everyone to suck my nuts

the funny thing is, i actually have that amg performance, just like you do. sucks doesn't it!

ghiaguy

seriously man, don't worry about it. get on with your life - it's a forum and it's not personal

ctravis595

i'm not worrying about anything here lol. i find this amusing, i don't like typical sources of entertainment like cable programming so this serves as what i would equate to TV for you guys i think

edit: my comments about amg owners don't really pertain to any and all amg owners, just the people on a high horse in this thread who think they actually know anything about these cars to begin with lol. they don't get why i put an amg badge on my homemade amg model and i don't get why they don't all drive nice buicks or something of the like...

LawRens

Careful now, you're treading close to ricer mentality... And that's whole new concept here

ctravis595

yeah i'll be honest i noticed that too lol

Darren_0203

So this person puts authentic amg parts on his car, does that give him the right to have an amg badge...I dont really know. If I worked at amg I might be better suited to answer that question. I guess you get some kind of kudos for doing it yourself but it cant ever be a true amg unless it came from the amg factory. You could replace the motor, tranny, doors, suspension with authentic lambo parts but it can never be a lambo unless it was made by them. If you did the same thing with ford focus parts it couldnt even be a true focus.

What I dont understand is why you would spend more money buying the car and parts to convert it to an amg when it would have been cheaper to buy an amg car...and dont bother wasting your time trying to say I cant turn a wrench. Theres a good chance ive worked on, and done things to cars you wouldnt be able to wrap your head around.

All I would like to see is an increase in your level of maturity. Sure everyone likes a good joke but if you continue going around acting like the pregnant teenage president of the avenge seven fold fan club the moderators have my full support in a ban. Im surprised it hasnt happened already.

ctravis595

i kinda understand where you guys are coming from on this subject, whether it merely be a matter of semantics, a matter of elitism or just pride in the brand of car you bought. since my car didn't come from the amg factory it's not the same as one that did i guess lol?

no you've been saved from the typical mechanically incompetent remarks i often loosely throw around like paint in this thread. i use paint as a metaphor because it seems it sticks really easily and is a pain to deal with!

instead i'll revert back to one of my earlier remarks since it clearly applies in this situation... the reasoning behind the engine swap has not only been discussed (numerous times) but the financial factor has also been explained (numerous times), but let me break it down some more-

the 02 cl55 models are going used for around 16-18k with reasonable mileage

the 02 cl500 models are going for for 10-12k with reasonable mileage

now let me entertain your type of logic, considering the engine cost 2,000

10k plus 2k = 12k for the amg model

i'm no rocket scientist but i can only assume 12k is a lot less than 16-18k

even though the transmissions are extremely similar between the cl500 and the cl55, i even went as far as spending another 1,000 on the amg transmission

and even though my math skills have greatly improved since the beginning of this post, i still don't think 13k is more then 16k-18k

the only problem is, i would need to spend that extra 3-5k so i can finally get into the amg private lounge ahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

you say you know a lot about cars but if you did then you'd know doing an engine swap isn't as expensive as a lot of people think. if you recall correctly, now i have an extra 02 cl500 engine loaded with parts, same with the 02 cl500 transmission, loaded with parts. if i really wanted to make a point i could break down this engine and probably make back that 2k i spent on the engine

and on that note i could also fix the transmission and sell it for 1k to pay for the amg transmission

i'm getting bored, next in line please?

ctravis595

this statement makes lots of sense considering you came into a thread with literally 20 pages of me bickering with people and then continued to try to bring up irrelevant points against a 21 year old, honestly what were you expecting? did you think i was gonna say OH WOW YOU OPENED MY EYES

let's be real, this thread is incredibly off topic to begin with and belongs in an off topic section. it's kinda hard to apply the typical rules enforced on this forum considering we're way out of the intended use of this forum to begin with

shouldn't a thread like this belong somewhere like the private lounge anyways? only makes sense lol

Darren_0203

Its not semantics or pride, just logic...again...If you put a chevy 350 in a 240sx it doesnt become a chevy or a 240sx ls1...its still just a 240. You clearly didnt look hard enough or at all for an 02 cl55 amg, if anybody pays that much for an 02 cl55 they paid way to much. Even you could have gotten them down to 14k-15k easy. The lot I bought my car from was asking for $17k for mine, its bb with options and miles was even more than that. I paid $13 for mine with a warranty.

ctravis595

comparing my amg swap to a nissan ls1 swap?

who in their right mind would consider a nissan a chevy after an engine swap? you're absurd if you really think i would call a nissan a chevy after a ls1 swap. the cl500 and the cl55 are identical cars, just different engine/transmission/brakes. you're comparing it to someone doing a swap in something not even from the same country, let alone the same manufacturer


now you're talking about hypothetical situations which don't really apply to reality until they're actually happened. you're right, i only google searched 02 cl55 craigslist and that's what i saw.

and again your logic is flawed in the sense that just like you talked down for your car, you could also talk down the cl500 owner to 7-8k for their car.

so really i could get a w215 amg for 10 grand with your logic....sounds like a great deal for someone who knows what they're doing!

edit:i'm actually starting to really doubt you've done anything to a car that i "couldn't wrap my head around"...

ctravis595

honestly i think this all boils down to the fact that you're all in denial that you bought a mercedes benz, instead of some prestigious unrelated amg manufacturer. amg makes engines and modifications, mercedes makes cars

Darren_0203

I'm not going to bother going over everything thats wrong with all the stupid gibberish you've been trying so hard to make what I think are points with. You'll get it in time or probably die somehow of natural selection. Have fun with all your little hammering smiley face people...Here's a link to some crayons http://www.crayola.com/

ctravis595

do you always use that line when you lose in a pissing match against someone younger than you?

very interesting how you came into this thread, in attempts to make a point that has been brought up numerous times, and now all of the sudden feel like throwing in the towel...

now you speak as if i don't fold to your way of thinking that i somehow deserve death lol, and you think i'm the one who needs to be banned here?

next in line please!!

MercedesDad

To ME, an AMG is a car built as such either at the original AMG plant (prior to the merge) or at any MB plant by using factory AMG performance components.

I am fortunate enough to own two "VIN" AMG's. Does that make me a better person?...absolutely not. Does that mean I can drive them to their limits? ...God I wish so.

Do I look down on someone that slapped an AMG badge wherever the hell he pleases? ...HELL NO! ....I take it as a compliment.

Fact is, cars guys are the same regardless of what they choose to drive.

MercedesDad

Concur...the "KSS" rule.