Kleemann Blower guys - Specific Pic request please
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Kleemann Blower guys - Specific Pic request please
Hi All,
Could I please make a request for some specific items during the Kleemann SC install if you have them or have access to them to get a good shot of the connections please.
The installs I would like to see pics of are of those who have the newer blower (roots type) that Kleemann uses.
I am just making sure and double and triple checking my connections during the install because I don't wanna mess things up.
Since we don't have any authorized kleemann dealers and installers here in the Philippines, I don't wanna risk messing this up.
1.) Kleemann Fuel pump and regulator connections into the fuel rail
2.) Engine cover fitment over the Oil filter housing
3.) Water pump mounting and hoses that run to and from the intercooler
I know it's asking for a lot, but just in case you guys took photos of your installs and the connections, I'd appreciate it a ton if you guys could post those pics of the items I mentioned or more if you want.
Thanks!
Could I please make a request for some specific items during the Kleemann SC install if you have them or have access to them to get a good shot of the connections please.
The installs I would like to see pics of are of those who have the newer blower (roots type) that Kleemann uses.
I am just making sure and double and triple checking my connections during the install because I don't wanna mess things up.
Since we don't have any authorized kleemann dealers and installers here in the Philippines, I don't wanna risk messing this up.
1.) Kleemann Fuel pump and regulator connections into the fuel rail
2.) Engine cover fitment over the Oil filter housing
3.) Water pump mounting and hoses that run to and from the intercooler
I know it's asking for a lot, but just in case you guys took photos of your installs and the connections, I'd appreciate it a ton if you guys could post those pics of the items I mentioned or more if you want.
Thanks!
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I've got a few pictures of the water pump mounting in this thread;
https://mbworld.org/forums/clk-class...nn-thread.html
As for the engine cover, here is a picture of it in this thread (yes, before my supercharger was installed but the same fitment);
https://mbworld.org/forums/clk-class...-detailed.html
Now, if you can hold tight until Saturday, I will be back in Dubai and I can post up several water pump and hose routing pics for you - I took a whole bunch of them last month when I had my front bumper cover off to be painted. Additionally, my new engine cover (modified KLEEMANN/E55K cover) is ready and I will have pictures of that too.
You can also find some other engine/supercharger pics scattered around in this thread;
https://mbworld.org/forums/clk-class...oodies-46.html
https://mbworld.org/forums/clk-class...nn-thread.html
As for the engine cover, here is a picture of it in this thread (yes, before my supercharger was installed but the same fitment);
https://mbworld.org/forums/clk-class...-detailed.html
Now, if you can hold tight until Saturday, I will be back in Dubai and I can post up several water pump and hose routing pics for you - I took a whole bunch of them last month when I had my front bumper cover off to be painted. Additionally, my new engine cover (modified KLEEMANN/E55K cover) is ready and I will have pictures of that too.
You can also find some other engine/supercharger pics scattered around in this thread;
https://mbworld.org/forums/clk-class...oodies-46.html
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I can get you some pictures of my setup if it'll help. I think I might be the first one on here with the secondary fuel pump deal. I don't really like this style setup because of the extra fuel lines and the cutting of the factory braided line that goes from the hard line to the fuel rail, but it is what it is I guess. I had some issues finding good high pressure hose and had issues with the Gates hose from O'Reilly being eaten up by the fuel and popping off! I ended up with some Goodyear hose and a squeeze type clamp instead of fuel injector or worm-gear clamps. I've also had an ongoing issue with the banjo bolt for that block on the end of the pump needed to be tightened every few weeks or it starts leaking. If you've already done your's, I wouldn't mind seeing some pictures of how you did your setup.
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The recommended place to install the Kleemann fuel system is in the engine compartment. Exactly as you described, the factory braided line needs to be cut coming from the fuel rail. I ended up putting the fuel pump and regulator in another spot though. Surprisingly, I don't have much space in my engine compartment so I hooked up the system underneath the chassis and ran the lines along the factory fuel lines underneath the car.
We tapped the fuel line right after the fuel filter then ran a line towards the rear where we installed the T-connector and fuel regulator then ran the line back towards the front where the Kleemann fuel pump was put inline with the line with the braided line into the fuel rail. The regulator is accessed behind the left rear wheel. So initial adjustment needs to be made with the wheel removed.
Here are a couple of pictures of the fuel pump and regulator:
We tapped the fuel line right after the fuel filter then ran a line towards the rear where we installed the T-connector and fuel regulator then ran the line back towards the front where the Kleemann fuel pump was put inline with the line with the braided line into the fuel rail. The regulator is accessed behind the left rear wheel. So initial adjustment needs to be made with the wheel removed.
Here are a couple of pictures of the fuel pump and regulator:
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Interesting, that's a totally different pump than my kit has. I doubt you'll need to make any adjustment to that regulator, I didn't have to touch mine. There is definitely isn't much room under the hood on my car either, I had to make a bracket to mount mine to. What hose did you end up using?
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I can't wait to drive my car again! It's been too long. Not as long as you had to wait hopefully.
Does anyone know exactly where the Mass Air Flow meter output is? The instruction manual isn't too clear about installing the Kleemann Resistor. It assumes that the installer knows where the output wire is and gives a color code but there are a lot of yellow wires and I want to make sure I'm cutting the correct wire.
Pictures would be great!
Does anyone know exactly where the Mass Air Flow meter output is? The instruction manual isn't too clear about installing the Kleemann Resistor. It assumes that the installer knows where the output wire is and gives a color code but there are a lot of yellow wires and I want to make sure I'm cutting the correct wire.
Pictures would be great!
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These are the only pictures I have right now of the fuel system, intercooler pump, and AIR pump. I took these during the install.
You can see the fuel pressure regulator on the right side of the picture here:
Here is the secondary fuel pump from the side view with the fender liner out, the hose looping down and back up is going to the bottom of the fuel pressure regulator:
Here's the AIR pump and intercooler pump:
You can see the fuel pressure regulator on the right side of the picture here:
Here is the secondary fuel pump from the side view with the fender liner out, the hose looping down and back up is going to the bottom of the fuel pressure regulator:
Here's the AIR pump and intercooler pump:
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I can't wait to drive my car again! It's been too long. Not as long as you had to wait hopefully.
Does anyone know exactly where the Mass Air Flow meter output is? The instruction manual isn't too clear about installing the Kleemann Resistor. It assumes that the installer knows where the output wire is and gives a color code but there are a lot of yellow wires and I want to make sure I'm cutting the correct wire.
Pictures would be great!
Does anyone know exactly where the Mass Air Flow meter output is? The instruction manual isn't too clear about installing the Kleemann Resistor. It assumes that the installer knows where the output wire is and gives a color code but there are a lot of yellow wires and I want to make sure I'm cutting the correct wire.
Pictures would be great!
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How did you wire your Fuel pump? Did you tap into the existing Fuel pump's wiring? Or a new one into the fuse box. The instructions failed to mention where to wire the fuel pump!
Water pump wiring was ok and a relay was included. Nothing for the Fuel Pump.
Water pump wiring was ok and a relay was included. Nothing for the Fuel Pump.
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I had a relay included for the secondary fuel pump as well and I connected both to a switched on ignition source (I think a black wire with yellow stripe?). Just make sure not to leave the ignition on or the pump will run. I don't know if it was part of my issues, but it always seemed like I had a leak after having the ignition on with the engine off, like to check engine oil level. I just pull the relay out first now. I can't find any information about a signal source for only when the engine is running.
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I seem to have a bunch of stuff missing from my kit. I wish I had a checklist before the install. This way I could have avoided any unnecessary delays. Luckily Cory sent them to me upon my discovery. If only I found out all these items were missing at the same time; not at all different times like I did.
Here's my tally of missing items:
1.) Y connector and hoses from airboxes to Throttle body - Cory overnighted me a set
2.) T-connector for bleeder of Supercharger to cooling bleeder hoses of motor - Cory overnighted me a piece
3.) Kleemann clamp (resistor) - found a fixed 550ohm resistor
4.) 1 electrical relay for wiring of Fuel and water pumps - found an identical relay at an electronic shop.
Almost almost almost there!!!!!!
Here's my tally of missing items:
1.) Y connector and hoses from airboxes to Throttle body - Cory overnighted me a set
2.) T-connector for bleeder of Supercharger to cooling bleeder hoses of motor - Cory overnighted me a piece
3.) Kleemann clamp (resistor) - found a fixed 550ohm resistor
4.) 1 electrical relay for wiring of Fuel and water pumps - found an identical relay at an electronic shop.
Almost almost almost there!!!!!!
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So I fired her up yesterday!!
Engine is misfiring at idle. Or does it take some time for the ECU to adjust to the tune and supercharger?
Hopefully it's something minor that was overlooked or an incorrect connection somewhere. Presently checking for any air leaks near MAF, rechecking all vacuum connections, exhaust leaks, coil pack installation, O2 sensor installation, resistor installation.
Anyone have any other ideas? I just wanna knock out as many possibilities here.
Engine is misfiring at idle. Or does it take some time for the ECU to adjust to the tune and supercharger?
Hopefully it's something minor that was overlooked or an incorrect connection somewhere. Presently checking for any air leaks near MAF, rechecking all vacuum connections, exhaust leaks, coil pack installation, O2 sensor installation, resistor installation.
Anyone have any other ideas? I just wanna knock out as many possibilities here.
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The klee manual has some 1st run instructions.
You want to check: fuel pressure, mas voltage (should not go above 4.85volts), boost, AFR.
Easiest to monitor all of these on a dyno. I rigged up mech fuel pressure, boost, resistor to MAS signal wire, and AFR.... and monitor all of these while driving is a chore.
Your rough idle could be a need for the motor to go through adaptations.... if I reset my adaptations I get some rough running until I run the car for a few minutes...... then it's fine.
If you log STFT and LTFT's..... and O2 sensor voltage it will be out of whack for a few minutes.... then it should settle down. If it is does not settle down into the correct O2 voltage signals... then you may have some things to hunt down:.... Mas air meter, vac leaks, etc.... GL.
The fun is about to start.
You want to check: fuel pressure, mas voltage (should not go above 4.85volts), boost, AFR.
Easiest to monitor all of these on a dyno. I rigged up mech fuel pressure, boost, resistor to MAS signal wire, and AFR.... and monitor all of these while driving is a chore.
Your rough idle could be a need for the motor to go through adaptations.... if I reset my adaptations I get some rough running until I run the car for a few minutes...... then it's fine.
If you log STFT and LTFT's..... and O2 sensor voltage it will be out of whack for a few minutes.... then it should settle down. If it is does not settle down into the correct O2 voltage signals... then you may have some things to hunt down:.... Mas air meter, vac leaks, etc.... GL.
The fun is about to start.
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The klee manual has some 1st run instructions.
You want to check: fuel pressure, mas voltage (should not go above 4.85volts), boost, AFR.
Easiest to monitor all of these on a dyno. I rigged up mech fuel pressure, boost, resistor to MAS signal wire, and AFR.... and monitor all of these while driving is a chore.
Your rough idle could be a need for the motor to go through adaptations.... if I reset my adaptations I get some rough running until I run the car for a few minutes...... then it's fine.
If you log STFT and LTFT's..... and O2 sensor voltage it will be out of whack for a few minutes.... then it should settle down. If it is does not settle down into the correct O2 voltage signals... then you may have some things to hunt down:.... Mas air meter, vac leaks, etc.... GL.
The fun is about to start.
You want to check: fuel pressure, mas voltage (should not go above 4.85volts), boost, AFR.
Easiest to monitor all of these on a dyno. I rigged up mech fuel pressure, boost, resistor to MAS signal wire, and AFR.... and monitor all of these while driving is a chore.
Your rough idle could be a need for the motor to go through adaptations.... if I reset my adaptations I get some rough running until I run the car for a few minutes...... then it's fine.
If you log STFT and LTFT's..... and O2 sensor voltage it will be out of whack for a few minutes.... then it should settle down. If it is does not settle down into the correct O2 voltage signals... then you may have some things to hunt down:.... Mas air meter, vac leaks, etc.... GL.
The fun is about to start.
Thanks for the input. I totally appreciate it. Hopefully ECU adjusting is all it is!
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Interesting, that's a totally different pump than my kit has. I doubt you'll need to make any adjustment to that regulator, I didn't have to touch mine. There is definitely isn't much room under the hood on my car either, I had to make a bracket to mount mine to. What hose did you end up using?
This setup turned out to be completely wrong!! I re-did the entire setup and now I'm good to go. I re-located the regulator to the engine compartment where it was originally supposed to be. Then looped it into line where the additional fuel pump and fuel rail connect after the fuel filter. The fuel pump is still physically located underneath the car around where the driver's seat is.
I used a high pressure "fuel hose" rated up to 400psi similar to a "Toyo" fuel hose. The original hoses I used were not even close to sturdy enough. I ruptured the hose from the Regulator to the T connector. Luckily I was back in the shop when it happened!
Now I'm just waiting for the proper gaskets to go between the headers and the downpipes. A day or two and I should be able to start her up again.
I'll get some shots of the fuel line setup I have now and post them.
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The klee manual has some 1st run instructions.
You want to check: fuel pressure, mas voltage (should not go above 4.85volts), boost, AFR.
Easiest to monitor all of these on a dyno. I rigged up mech fuel pressure, boost, resistor to MAS signal wire, and AFR.... and monitor all of these while driving is a chore.
Your rough idle could be a need for the motor to go through adaptations.... if I reset my adaptations I get some rough running until I run the car for a few minutes...... then it's fine.
If you log STFT and LTFT's..... and O2 sensor voltage it will be out of whack for a few minutes.... then it should settle down. If it is does not settle down into the correct O2 voltage signals... then you may have some things to hunt down:.... Mas air meter, vac leaks, etc.... GL.
The fun is about to start.
You want to check: fuel pressure, mas voltage (should not go above 4.85volts), boost, AFR.
Easiest to monitor all of these on a dyno. I rigged up mech fuel pressure, boost, resistor to MAS signal wire, and AFR.... and monitor all of these while driving is a chore.
Your rough idle could be a need for the motor to go through adaptations.... if I reset my adaptations I get some rough running until I run the car for a few minutes...... then it's fine.
If you log STFT and LTFT's..... and O2 sensor voltage it will be out of whack for a few minutes.... then it should settle down. If it is does not settle down into the correct O2 voltage signals... then you may have some things to hunt down:.... Mas air meter, vac leaks, etc.... GL.
The fun is about to start.
Last edited by BonitaBeast; Oct 9, 2012 at 08:11 AM.
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Finally got her sorted yesterday. I posted some vids on the G55 thread https://mbworld.org/forums/g55-amg-w...ect-s-c-5.html
Here they are again.
Back to back short drive comparison between mine (2003 G55 Kleemann) and my brother's (2009 G55k AMG stock)
Mine:
My Brother's
The idling seems to get better at the end of every drive! It's smoothing out finally.
Last edited by BonitaBeast; Oct 14, 2012 at 05:22 AM.
