jrcart

Dude, the M6 is more of a GT, I believe it was designed to aim more towards the Aston and Maserati and maybe even the M-B CL crowd. The CLK 63 Cab or BS was not even a wet dream when BMW released the M6. The CLK is a competitor with a 3 series not a 5 or 6 series. If BMW wanted to release a full blown sports coupe, they need to develop a CLS version, take out the back seats, put some killer suspension on it and throw on a few more CF body panels. The M6 is a great all around car, nobody is claiming otherwise, but it's main focus not on a track performance. Sure, it will turn some good laps, but not as consistant as a BS.

jrcart

What kind of supercharger on the E46? How many pounds of boost? Who did the work? I own both a supercharged Dinan E46 w/SMG M3 and a CLK 63 BS, and my bone stock CLK BS beat up on on the M3 pretty bad in the 1/4 mile, but the roll-on was a slaughter. 55-140 he's gonna kill you, unless you are making over 430 at the wheels (because that's what mine makes). If you claim you are making over 430 at the wheels I'd like to see some proof. He may not have taken delivery of his car yet, but I'll tell you what, you better have one helluva bas a$$ M3 if you want to hang with a BS on a top-end roll-on. You M3 guys have no idea what torque is...M3's don't make torque regardless of what is done to it! Another thing my M3 tops out just over 180mph, the stock BS is restricted to 186mph, it hit 186mph with relative easy while BONE STOCK. My un-restricted BS does 206...ain't no E46's riding around on the streets that are capable of 206mph.

Now please log off and crawl back over to your M3 Forum or wherever it is you came from, we don't want to hear it from you just like you don't want me over on your site picking fights. God, these idiots make me want to sell my BMW's, I'm friggin embarressed to even admitt I own a couple of them.

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LZH

All that video shows is the BS driver couldn't hit an apex with a 10ft pole. Terrible driving - and lets not forget, that car was probably bone stock.

The idiots here comparing blown E46's to the Black Series need to step off already and wait until the Kenne Bell supercharger is ready for the Black Series

blackbenzz

Nice! Another pissing match!!!

Just an FYI for whoever it was that asked. Yes there are benzes trapping 130's

AmgAutobahnAuto

Does it look like I care what you dumbass Bmw drivers think or say no. I tried to be nice. Be like wise look at every single comment I got back. You morons are like ricers with your M3s. Whats this going 50-155mph on public roads. Thanks if thats the case why not go to the Autobahn. I am shocked you dont admit you dont drive your car fast on public roads. Unlike you rich boys that have ur daddy buy you your M3, I worked for mine like I did for the Black. call what u want I am done responding. Oh yeah I write what I want when I want. I never said I was a writer. I won't waste my time on grammer and spelling as I am hear to enjoy with the AMG FANS. Your rite I dont have my car. It will be here soon.

LZH

Glad you are HERE dude, but you really do need to work on your spelling/grammar....Just my over-educated opinion

AmgAutobahnAuto

Trust me I know but This isn't english class I had enough SAs and correct spelling. Try to make the best of it. Sorry

JeST

So let me get this straight .... "Us M3 owners" are morons, and ricers, meanwhile you spam how beautiful, fast, wonderful, untouchable your undelivered black series is.... and you would like to setup a race from 50 to 155mph on public roads. I'm curious why do u bring up the Autobahn when your from the northeast? Last I checked there were no Autobahns in the States .... Do you consider the NY thruway an Autobahn?

JeST

Please.... for the love of God please show me you have some type of smarts in that head of yours. Did you miss the numerous comments I wrote saying im a fan? Please PLEASE ... stop ... walk away from your computer, take a deep breath, cup your *****, and reread my posts.

AmgAutobahnAuto

sorry did you say FAN look you didnt have anything nice to say at M3forums but yet you come here and call me as if I am child. Maybe I am maybe I'm not. What does that have to do with driving. I love cars, I like all makes/models. But when it comes to picking a car, It's AMG. I guess you have a problem with that or was it when I asked to race a SC M3. Please going 50-155mph with any AMG or M is easily possible. I have done at my local highway 287 not mention with a e46 M3. There's a guy who lives down my street that has a 04 GT3 BLK/BLK. Rips it down the str every time and nobody says anything about it.

LZH

Something tells me Jest is Just a bit jealous....

AmgAutobahnAuto

287N great highway seen alot of nice cars going very very fast.

AmgAutobahnAuto

VERY VERY

Pistol

Jest, its PKumarM3 from m3f.

I honestly don't understand why so many of the members of this forum are SO hostile.

The opening poster created a thread on the m3forum asking for people to do 50-155mph runs. I admit, he did not indicate whether he was talking about 1/4 strips or on the highway, but it seems like highway runs from the starting speed (50mph) and also what he has posted on the forum that hes done pulls on the highway. Everyone of us have broken the speed limit. But to race someone else on the highway 50-155mph is incredibly dangerous.

Wouldn't you guys agree that driving on the highway in that fashion is pretty childish and also not safe? And secondly, don't you think the OP would have been more successful if he asked m3 forum members to meet them on a drag strip and do some pulls there?

If you guys do not agree, then you can continue to endanger yourselves and others that drive on public roads!

Secondly, I believe the OP came onto the m3forum and posted how M5 and M6 owners should bow down to the CLK Black Series. I understand that the CLK Black Series is a fantastic car. It is a track beast and can do very well on the track....but at that same token, as you can see in the video posted a few posts back, a CLK BS in the hands of a novice track driver will be getting passed by MANY MANY cars. Straight line speed is great, but those little exiges' and m3s will be on your tail when the corners come up if your not an intermediate track driver. By track, I mean tracks such as Willow
Springs, Thunderhill, Watkins Glen, VIR...not a 1/4 track.

The other thing to talk about is that the OP is comparing a 140K car to a M6=110k and a M5= 90k and a M3=75k. The best comparison for the CLKBS, purely based on the price (i understand the CLK and C class is a direct competitor w/the 3 series and all its variations) is the 997 GT3 and 997 Turbo (both which are in the 120k to 140k price range).
I don't know what the intentions of the OP was, but going onto a BMW forum and saying that your Mercedes is a better car...well its not going to be favorable and will create an argument. I am not sure if that is called trolling, but it just wasn't the smartest thing.

In conclusion, the CLK BS is a great great car. There is no doubt that it is a straight line beast --- in the hands of ANY driver --- and it is also a phenomenal track car --- in the hands of a good track driver, but so is any car really, as that video shows.

MARTYMAR

Sorry but I just had to chime in for a quick second and respond to this post. Jest, If you are in fact being brutally and geniunely honest about being a fan of the AMG, then it couldn't be more clear to me in this message. I don't know what is being said on the BMW forum but since I've been following this thread you've been fairly reasonable in your statements....trying to be unbiased and a good sport!

Pistol

i actually lurk on this forum quite often since my wife drives a CL63 AMG. I just choose not to post. Check the join date. I've been here since 2005.

No one is picking a fight. I am sure that there are people on this forum that have read what the OP wrote and agree with the more sensible people that his comments were inappropriate.

I don't want to stir up any arguments. I just wanted to ask some questions that would illustrate the egregious fashion in which your forum member posted on the m3forum.

Everyone knows that street racing is inappropriate.

DBLNICKL

ha, i've read every single post on this thread today...and all i can say is LMFAO @ u all throwing darts @ eachother...why dont u guys with the BS' and M's (mods or not) meet up @ a track, and go @ it, simple...that'll end all the hooplah etc...*****, put some money on it even just to make it interesting...winner gets a lil pocket change, bragging rights n call it a fk'in day...

Pistol

i don't think thats the issue

the CLK BS will romp on an e46 m3.
it will also do well on an m5 and m6. I don't own either so I don't know.

Its comparing apples and oranges. The CLKBS is about 2x the price of a E92 M3 (75k FULLY LOADED) and 50K more than a M5 (90K) and 30k more than a M6 (110K). A CLKBS against a 997 Porsche Turbo or 997 GT3 would be a better straight line test.

At that same accord, the Porsches aren't designed to be a straight line beast. But even so, a CLKBS vs. either Porsche on the track...depends on the driver.

LZH

So you've been here for ~3 years and you choose NOW to make your first post....speaks volumes about your intent. And speaking of intent, thank you SO MUCH for pointing out street racing is inappropriate...wow, what a revelation, well done. And what makes you think we give a rats *** what this guys is posting over on your forum ?? Clearly you have some sense of entitlement to come here and "illustrate the egregious fashion in which your forum member posted on the m3forum."
Perhaps you should just get a life and quit chasing people around the internet.
And as far as street racing is concerned, well, it just depends where an when. If the only person on the road at the time is YOU, well then you really aren't endangering anyone else are you - just breaking the law. And I suppose you and your M3 buddies have never broken the law by speeding have you ? Get lost chump.

DBLNICKL

haha, hey man, i understand what ur sayin but i'm a firm believer in put up or shut up...ya know? everyones goin back n forth with the "my car is better than urs" ok, put that ***** on the road n prove it...if u gotta hit ur local tuner n get it ready to bust someones *** then so be it...lol...my point being all the back n forth isnt getting anyone anywhere...all these cars mentioned are quality, hands down...it comes down to personal preference in vehicles... @ the end of the day, nobody is paying for or paid for or is donating to someone elses cause so the bickering is pretty...........pointless to say the least..."cant we all just get along?......" ha

MARTYMAR

Haha right on DBL....hell I wish I could afford a CLK63 or a M5! I think most car enthusiates would agree that both BMW and Mercedes-Benz make some of the BEST automobiles in the WORLD! However, in my opinion the CLK63 BS is tops in overall performance whether it be track or not. Again, this is just my opinion from the reviews and/or video's that I've read or seen about other cars matched up against it. I'm sure this could be very hard to believe for some BMW owners/fans but why? BMW has been the benchmark that other automakers have tried to measure up to for many years in regards to performance, handling and overall value. (Mercedes being a very tight 2nd in my opinion). Now finally, the CLK63 AMG BS has been proven to be a beast on the track....beating out the M6 (even by a narrow margin) shows that the best is yet to come for both BMW and Mercedes. So what's all the fuss about? Why can't Mercedes-Benz owners/fans bask in this glory? Even if it might be for a short while....let it be! Now that would be a very classy thing to do while showing good sportsmanship right? Right now I'm thinking to myself hmmm it's about time Mercedes can brag a little for a change...

AmgAutobahnAuto

Wow! When did I come into the M3 Forums and bash on the M3. My intention was to race a supercharged one. I never said the m3 was a ****ty car or what you state. In all fairness I belive you are just mad. I called out a SC M3 which prob give a Black a run on the straight. Since none of you have nor have the ***** whats the use. I even put up $500. Noone answered. All the commets were bashing on the CLK63. Like I said I just wanted a race. Never said this better or that if so the BLACK SERIES

JamE55

Daaaaamn!!!

Don't know which one's more exciting to watch. This thread or the brand new opening of the movie Dark Knight?!

This thread is going to be on lockdown mode pretty soon if you guys don't settle down...

Pistol

what gives you the right to speak to people like that? just because you own a few cars you think you can be as condescending as you want?

I do have a life, but when someone gets hassled by polishers like yourself, someone has to stick up for them. Especially when morons like yourself speak with a snobbish tone, thats just gasoline to the fire. When people speak in the fashion that you have, its rude, condescending, and inappropriate. If someone, other than MB or BMW owners were to read your posts, they would agree that your posts are incredibly snobby and gives Mercedes owners a bad name. It only takes ones.

How is driving alone on an empty road street racing? If you read my first post, you should note that I mention that "Everyone of us have broken the speed limit. " No one is claiming that they haven't broken the law.

Either way, arguing with you is a waste of time, since you act as though you are better than others, but you can't properly quote me or you don't read what I wrote. How about you post every single DVD you have as well so people will to you. All the vehicles you have already should make you a automobile connoisseur or an enthusiast, but you're just someone w/more money than brains or etiquette.

I will always love the Mercedes CLK Black series, but if the contributors of this thread is a representation of the majority of owners, I will stay away from this car like the black plague. On the other hand, for 30k less, I can get a GT3 and spank a CLK BS on the straights and definitely at the track...assuming you still don't run in the novice group LZH, that is...if you even track your car.

SCe46M3

Your a tool bro...come out to so cal and i'll make u look stupid. Put up $500 haha, is that the going rate in Jersey.. Like i said u can race Drew, me, Loren, show me a 123mph trap slip 1st just so i can even think your worth my time..untill then, u arent doing untill like somebody said u get your KB supercharger... Never said your car wasnt nice, but hey guess what, stock your slow as sheit.