OT: Lexus LFA, What are your thoughts?
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OT: Lexus LFA, What are your thoughts?
Ever since I saw an LFA in person at the auto show earlier this year I have been kicking around the idea of ordering one. NA V10, 560hp @ around 3100 pounds with a 202mph (limited
) top speed sounds like fun. When initial prices were released they said $399k, about 3 months ago Lexus North America dropped the starting MSRP to $375k and I just recieved word that do to underwhelming pre-production demand and orders on this vehichle they are dropping the starting MSRP to below the $350k mark on the base configuration model. Don't get me wrong, $350k is still a high price for a fancy Toyota but IMO it is an amazing car, quite possibly the best performing car money can buy and it's pretty easy on the eyes IMO. Toyota also just released word that a fourth configuration package will be made available called "The Nurburgring Track Edition" which will strut an additional 10hp, special seats, wider and stickier rubber and a wind tunnel tested and nurburgring tested aero package. I have not seen a Ring time posted on a production spec car yet but many of the magazines and e-zines are predicting times even quicker than the pre-production vehicle that lapped the ring at an amazing 7:24.23.
Has anyone heard anything else on this car? Any thoughts? Is a $350-$400K Toyota really worth it?
) top speed sounds like fun. When initial prices were released they said $399k, about 3 months ago Lexus North America dropped the starting MSRP to $375k and I just recieved word that do to underwhelming pre-production demand and orders on this vehichle they are dropping the starting MSRP to below the $350k mark on the base configuration model. Don't get me wrong, $350k is still a high price for a fancy Toyota but IMO it is an amazing car, quite possibly the best performing car money can buy and it's pretty easy on the eyes IMO. Toyota also just released word that a fourth configuration package will be made available called "The Nurburgring Track Edition" which will strut an additional 10hp, special seats, wider and stickier rubber and a wind tunnel tested and nurburgring tested aero package. I have not seen a Ring time posted on a production spec car yet but many of the magazines and e-zines are predicting times even quicker than the pre-production vehicle that lapped the ring at an amazing 7:24.23.Has anyone heard anything else on this car? Any thoughts? Is a $350-$400K Toyota really worth it?
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OP if you really like the car and it puts a smile on your face go for it, LFA is a great car.
But 350-400k for a fancy Toyota is WELL not worth it in my humble opinion. For your price range there are a slew of super/hyper cars that can out preform and GREATLY outclass the LFA. SLR 722 , LP-670, 599 GTO, SL65 Black, 458 italia etc. Personally with that budget I'd get an SLS AMG an with my 150-170k left id pick up a ZR-1 and a C63 AMG. But then again I cannot afford any of these cars that I have mentioned. Either way if you did chose the LFA I doubt you would be disappointed it's a good car just not 400k good. Just my $0.02
But 350-400k for a fancy Toyota is WELL not worth it in my humble opinion. For your price range there are a slew of super/hyper cars that can out preform and GREATLY outclass the LFA. SLR 722 , LP-670, 599 GTO, SL65 Black, 458 italia etc. Personally with that budget I'd get an SLS AMG an with my 150-170k left id pick up a ZR-1 and a C63 AMG. But then again I cannot afford any of these cars that I have mentioned. Either way if you did chose the LFA I doubt you would be disappointed it's a good car just not 400k good. Just my $0.02
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OP if you really like the car and it puts a smile on your face go for it, LFA is a great car.
But 350-400k for a fancy Toyota is WELL not worth it in my humble opinion. For your price range there are a slew of super/hyper cars that can out preform and GREATLY outclass the LFA. SLR 722 , LP-670, 599 GTO, SL65 Black, 458 italia etc. Personally with that budget I'd get an SLS AMG an with my 150-170k left id pick up a ZR-1 and a C63 AMG. But then again I cannot afford any of these cars that I have mentioned. Either way if you did chose the LFA I doubt you would be disappointed. Just my $0.02
But 350-400k for a fancy Toyota is WELL not worth it in my humble opinion. For your price range there are a slew of super/hyper cars that can out preform and GREATLY outclass the LFA. SLR 722 , LP-670, 599 GTO, SL65 Black, 458 italia etc. Personally with that budget I'd get an SLS AMG an with my 150-170k left id pick up a ZR-1 and a C63 AMG. But then again I cannot afford any of these cars that I have mentioned. Either way if you did chose the LFA I doubt you would be disappointed. Just my $0.02
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OP if you really like the car and it puts a smile on your face go for it, LFA is a great car.
But 350-400k for a fancy Toyota is WELL not worth it in my humble opinion. For your price range there are a slew of super/hyper cars that can out preform and GREATLY outclass the LFA. SLR 722 , LP-670, 599 GTO, SL65 Black, 458 italia etc. Personally with that budget I'd get an SLS AMG an with my 150-170k left id pick up a ZR-1 and a C63 AMG. But then again I cannot afford any of these cars that I have mentioned. Either way if you did chose the LFA I doubt you would be disappointed it's a good car just not 400k good. Just my $0.02
But 350-400k for a fancy Toyota is WELL not worth it in my humble opinion. For your price range there are a slew of super/hyper cars that can out preform and GREATLY outclass the LFA. SLR 722 , LP-670, 599 GTO, SL65 Black, 458 italia etc. Personally with that budget I'd get an SLS AMG an with my 150-170k left id pick up a ZR-1 and a C63 AMG. But then again I cannot afford any of these cars that I have mentioned. Either way if you did chose the LFA I doubt you would be disappointed it's a good car just not 400k good. Just my $0.02
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I hear what you are saying but an SLR722, LP 670, 599 or SL65 BS will not out perform the LFA based on the numbers I have been reading, hell the SL65 BS will not out perform a CLK63 BS. The only car you listed that might give it a run for its money in all around track performance is the $100k ZR1
All the above mentioned cars will blow the LFA's doors off on any regular roads/highways.
Granted,LFA would be great on track,very likely even better then some of the above cars but then,there are plenty of even better track cars available with much lower price of admission.
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The car definitely seems to have a LOT of reallllly cool features to it, everything from the engine to the frame to the gauges. But there's something about it that just makes me not care to own one (not that I can anyway!). It's one of those that I'd like to see and drive, but after the track day is over I'm satisfied. I can think of so many other cars to own other than that one, and still have money to spare for another supercar to put next to it.
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Are you looking for a track only superior vehicle?
All the above mentioned cars will blow the LFA's doors off on any regular roads/highways.
Granted,LFA would be great on track,very likely even better then some of the above cars but then,there are plenty of even better track cars available with much lower price of admission.
All the above mentioned cars will blow the LFA's doors off on any regular roads/highways.
Granted,LFA would be great on track,very likely even better then some of the above cars but then,there are plenty of even better track cars available with much lower price of admission.
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For some reason I like the LFA body better than SLS but thats just me.
Edit:
Ok I changed my mine now get the SLS,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zauEe...eature=related
Andy
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Ok I changed my mine now get the SLS,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zauEe...eature=related
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It is funny how we all talk about this car like we are authorities...
Not a one of us has driven the car, or even seen one in person - and really isn't that what matters the most.
Granted I have read a tremendous amount about this car and could offer an informed opinion, but the big question will never be answered - how does it drive.
FWIW I am in awe of this ride, so much technology and engineering and the performance to back it up. I truly believe this car will end up being an engineering and styling benchmark other manufactures will set their future sights on.
OK its stats don't set any records, but I am not sure that is what this car was supposed to be about.
Ferrari's and Lambo's speak for themselves...this car will need an advocate to get is true message across.
Anyone with the means to own this, or any high priced super car, should use the only rational criteria needed to make a blatantly irrational decision...does it speak to me.
Oh and from what I understand no one will be able to buy one of this cars. Due to Toyota's desire to avoid speculators flipping the 500 units they produce only 24 month leases will be offered....interesting.
Jcart...freakin go for it man!
Not a one of us has driven the car, or even seen one in person - and really isn't that what matters the most.
Granted I have read a tremendous amount about this car and could offer an informed opinion, but the big question will never be answered - how does it drive.
FWIW I am in awe of this ride, so much technology and engineering and the performance to back it up. I truly believe this car will end up being an engineering and styling benchmark other manufactures will set their future sights on.
OK its stats don't set any records, but I am not sure that is what this car was supposed to be about.
Ferrari's and Lambo's speak for themselves...this car will need an advocate to get is true message across.
Anyone with the means to own this, or any high priced super car, should use the only rational criteria needed to make a blatantly irrational decision...does it speak to me.
Oh and from what I understand no one will be able to buy one of this cars. Due to Toyota's desire to avoid speculators flipping the 500 units they produce only 24 month leases will be offered....interesting.
Jcart...freakin go for it man!
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It will be interesting to see how they sell but from what I hear there must be a lot of people that are on the fence about pulling the trigger on a nearly $400k Lexus/Toyota. Lexus obvoiusly builds a great car, anyone that says otherwise has not driven a new LS, hands down it is better than an S550 in all categories, don't belive me go drive one. How about an IS F? More performance for $50k than you can find anywhere, except maybe a vette yet the IS F has been a sales failure. That being said I revert back to my "its a Lexus" comments. I will not argue that a Ferrari, Lambo or even Porsche have a certain aura about them, their names alone define performance. The LFA has lots of technology derived from Toyotas F1 efforts and Lexus Grand Am prototype racing program. A sub 7:24 lap at the Ring would make it the fastest somewhat mass produced production vehicle ever to lap the Ring if I'm not mistaken the all mighty Enzo did a 7:25. The car sounds amazing, and did anyone pay attention to those paddle upshifts and the blipping on downshifts?
There are some other really neat things about this car, there are over 20 custom colors to choose from, 10 different interiors to choose from, 4 different wheels and 6 brake caliper colors to choose from. Not even Lambo and Porsche combined have that many choices for factory customazation.
There are some other really neat things about this car, there are over 20 custom colors to choose from, 10 different interiors to choose from, 4 different wheels and 6 brake caliper colors to choose from. Not even Lambo and Porsche combined have that many choices for factory customazation.
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AMG had a preview unveiling of the SLS and across the isle at the LA auto show was a LFA cut in half. Very nice piece of engieering.
I don't think you buy this car for numbers but refinement. A Viper ACR would be faster but you wouldn't want to drive it more than an hour. The question in my mind, will the LFA have a soul?
Will teenagers give you the tumbs up? I just returned from a track day and I had more than half a dozen thumbs up on the I-5 freeway in the car culture capital LA. I don't thnk the LFA will get the thumbs up, but every seem, bolt, panel will be perfect.
The detractors will not appreciate the special detail that Toyota went too, much like the tools that detract from the BS.
At 350 large there is a lot to choose from, but if you want cutting edge technology, I think there's only other choice is a 599 GTB.
I don't think you buy this car for numbers but refinement. A Viper ACR would be faster but you wouldn't want to drive it more than an hour. The question in my mind, will the LFA have a soul?
Will teenagers give you the tumbs up? I just returned from a track day and I had more than half a dozen thumbs up on the I-5 freeway in the car culture capital LA. I don't thnk the LFA will get the thumbs up, but every seem, bolt, panel will be perfect.
The detractors will not appreciate the special detail that Toyota went too, much like the tools that detract from the BS.
At 350 large there is a lot to choose from, but if you want cutting edge technology, I think there's only other choice is a 599 GTB.
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not a german exotic wanna be but i'll excuse the ignorance thank you.
toyota has put countless hours and money into this. name a german vehicle that sounds and looks like this?
yes, the price is more than what people would associate pating for a japanese car but something of this caliber is in its own class.
http://www.lexus-lfa.com/
the sound gallery is so damn intoxicating
toyota has put countless hours and money into this. name a german vehicle that sounds and looks like this?
yes, the price is more than what people would associate pating for a japanese car but something of this caliber is in its own class.
http://www.lexus-lfa.com/
the sound gallery is so damn intoxicating
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At that price range, the Ferrari 599 is (for me) the no-brainer choice. It has the style, power, pedigree and performance I'd want for that type of money.
The LFA just doesn't "do it" for me. Hard to define. Love the sound, but it seems almost too sterile and over engineered.
Ferraris have soul. The LFA seems to have code written for a soul that's programmed on a computer chip. Not quite the same.
The LFA just doesn't "do it" for me. Hard to define. Love the sound, but it seems almost too sterile and over engineered.
Ferraris have soul. The LFA seems to have code written for a soul that's programmed on a computer chip. Not quite the same.
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AMG had a preview unveiling of the SLS and across the isle at the LA auto show was a LFA cut in half. Very nice piece of engieering.
I don't think you buy this car for numbers but refinement. A Viper ACR would be faster but you wouldn't want to drive it more than an hour. The question in my mind, will the LFA have a soul?
Will teenagers give you the tumbs up? I just returned from a track day and I had more than half a dozen thumbs up on the I-5 freeway in the car culture capital LA. I don't thnk the LFA will get the thumbs up, but every seem, bolt, panel will be perfect.
The detractors will not appreciate the special detail that Toyota went too, much like the tools that detract from the BS.
At 350 large there is a lot to choose from, but if you want cutting edge technology, I think there's only other choice is a 599 GTB.
I don't think you buy this car for numbers but refinement. A Viper ACR would be faster but you wouldn't want to drive it more than an hour. The question in my mind, will the LFA have a soul?
Will teenagers give you the tumbs up? I just returned from a track day and I had more than half a dozen thumbs up on the I-5 freeway in the car culture capital LA. I don't thnk the LFA will get the thumbs up, but every seem, bolt, panel will be perfect.
The detractors will not appreciate the special detail that Toyota went too, much like the tools that detract from the BS.
At 350 large there is a lot to choose from, but if you want cutting edge technology, I think there's only other choice is a 599 GTB.
The LFA has a more low-slung, exotic UFO look IMO than any CLK Black Series possibly could have. The LFA is the thumbs-up machine to me. Jim you probably get thumbs-up b/c it's the only red CLK BS anyone has ever seen
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In my opinion it is a pretty car, which sounds nothing short of an F1 car at speed, but no way in hell is it worth 375,000.00.
Here is a tidbit for all interested parties.
Projected build quantity is 500 units total. All have been spoken for already. Talks of having 50 special models as well. Not sure if its 450 regular and 50 special or 500 regular and 50 special. Regardless, i can probably think of 20 cars i would throw 350 large at before this one.
another personal opinion.
The LFA will lose a lot of its value when Honda comes out (and they will) with their NSX replacement at a price a third of the LFA's.
Here is a tidbit for all interested parties.
Projected build quantity is 500 units total. All have been spoken for already. Talks of having 50 special models as well. Not sure if its 450 regular and 50 special or 500 regular and 50 special. Regardless, i can probably think of 20 cars i would throw 350 large at before this one.
another personal opinion.
The LFA will lose a lot of its value when Honda comes out (and they will) with their NSX replacement at a price a third of the LFA's.
