Here is how my CLK Black is progressing...
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Here is how my CLK Black is progressing...
...just finished with the installation of a custom rear diffuser... Still needs some minor work (i.e. paint, etc.) as it got scratched and patch-painted through the process. It took a long time to figure out the logistics of this darn diffuser and to get it properly fitted, but it was finally done. Huge headache!! A lot...and I mean...a lot of work... But in the end...well worth it... I'll try to post more pics in the upcoming days so you can also see the interior with the racing Sparco bucket seats. Rims...HREs with titanium bolts. A few more things that I plan to do in the near future...Long Tubes Tri-Y, and an ECU Tune. Currently, I have open down pipes... Very...and I mean...very very very loud!!! But the HP gains for not having mufflers, resonators, and 2 out of the four Cats...are great!! I have not had the chance to dyno car yet but will do once I find free time. About a month ago, I smoked an SLS... We did three runs from 40MPH to about 100MPH...and in all three runs I left him behind the distance of about 5 cars!! The other driver couldn't believe it. Quite frankly...I couldn't believe it either. In the past...on near-by highways, I have smoked a Lamborghini Gallardo, Ferrari F430, and a 2008 Porsche 911 turbo. The other drivers seemed to be very surprised that they got smoked by a Mercedes... Little they knew that it was the CLK Black Series! Truth is that my car pulls much harder compared to how it was before I did those exhaust changes (rather removal of OEM exhaust components). The again...mufflers, resonators, and cats are choking points. Keep in mind...I have not had an ECU remap as of yet. Well...then again, I have also found a way to shed 180 pounds (lbs) off of the car's 3911 lbs curb weight. I've had mine weighed on a scale about couple weeks ago...it came to 3731 lbs. I am working on gettting the car down to 3500 lbs. Enjoy these two pics... I'll try to post a few more in the upcoming days... Cheers!
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Not trying to doubt you or anything but you were able to beat an SLS, Lamborghini Gallardo, Ferrari F430, and a 2008 Porsche 911 turbo with your current setup and you're not even running a LTH or a tuned ECU? So you engine setup is stock or what? I mean besides the open down pipes and not having any mufs of res.
Also your setup looks somewhat familiar from another member who was selling his CLK with the same wheels? Anymore pics of the rear diffuser? What size are your wheel setup?
Also your setup looks somewhat familiar from another member who was selling his CLK with the same wheels? Anymore pics of the rear diffuser? What size are your wheel setup?
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I find it very hard to believe that you beat any of those cars. F430 is much lighter with almost same power, same for Gallardo....and the turbo 997 is faster as well. The mods on your BS don't amount to much as the major restrictions on the M156 motor are the intake and stock log exhaust manifolds. Without an ECU tune and headers you are pretty much stock. And even shedding 180 lbs you are still almost 700 lbs heavier than then F430.
I realize you are very happy with your BS, but please be realistic.
I realize you are very happy with your BS, but please be realistic.
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I've been beaten many times by, lets just say, mechanically inferior hardware ... once in a 25 mph residential area, countless times at a light and too many to count fly-bys on the FWY ... but they all had one thing in common ... I didn't even know I was in a race 
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I find it very hard to believe that you beat any of those cars. F430 is much lighter with almost same power, same for Gallardo....and the turbo 997 is faster as well. The mods on your BS don't amount to much as the major restrictions on the M156 motor are the intake and stock log exhaust manifolds. Without an ECU tune and headers you are pretty much stock. And even shedding 180 lbs you are still almost 700 lbs heavier than then F430.
I realize you are very happy with your BS, but please be realistic.
I realize you are very happy with your BS, but please be realistic.
When you are on a highway cruising at 40MPH and there comes a Lamborhini Gallardo or a Ferrari F430, be rest assured that you can smoke either one of them from that point on up. Same goes for the Gallardo, which gets only 376.2 lb.ft @ 4500 rpm. Neither car can match the torque figures of the CLK Black torque. They get smoked!! Now...if you plan to do 0-60...things may change because the weight issue is thrown into the equation and the weight becomes a little more important when taking off from stop...which as I mention once I get the weight down to where I want it to be...jejeje...you get my point... But like I said...once you reduce weight off of the CLK Black...then the rest is history. AMG shop is known as "Masters of Torque" for a good reason!
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Let's start with the Gallardo...two runs. I even had my wife in the car. The guy was just by himself. After both runs (from 60MPH to about 120 MPH)...the guy pulled aside and was very surprised...gave thumbs up...and then asked what kind of Mercedes that was. I am sure he knew he was on a race run. Same with F430...3 different runs on same highway (I-95) headed North Bound this time... Both, Gallardo and F430, i had a slightly different setup as I was not running open down pipes. I had straight pipes asides the front cats which are still there. I also had X-pipes. The 911 turbo was from one traffic light to another in fort Lauderdale...say the equivelant of 4 regular size city blocks. The guy pulled aside and he was looking at the car trying to figure out how that was possible. Torque...torque...torque!!!
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Not trying to doubt you or anything but you were able to beat an SLS, Lamborghini Gallardo, Ferrari F430, and a 2008 Porsche 911 turbo with your current setup and you're not even running a LTH or a tuned ECU? So you engine setup is stock or what? I mean besides the open down pipes and not having any mufs of res.
Also your setup looks somewhat familiar from another member who was selling his CLK with the same wheels? Anymore pics of the rear diffuser? What size are your wheel setup?
Also your setup looks somewhat familiar from another member who was selling his CLK with the same wheels? Anymore pics of the rear diffuser? What size are your wheel setup?
No LTH and no tune as of yet. Just performance air filters and open down pipes...with 180 lbs off of the car. I am looking very very forward to do the LTH and the tune and see how much different the car would be. I did notice a substantial difference going from regular OEM exhaust to open down pipes. But keep in mind...here in Florida...no emission requirements and no smog tests. Amen for that!!! As far as noise...I am used to it by now and yes...it is very very loud. That thing roars very very very loud! Everytime I go through my garage...it sets off other car alarms left and right. LMAO.
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First off, I love my black series but.....I have to call bull on that unless they didn't know they were racing.
You have a modified exhaust and without tuning, the gains are simply because the OEM exhaust is very heavy and you have reduced the weight which is accounting for the performance. Just some hints but rather than looking at ti nuts, you are better off spending the money on perhaps cleaning up the intake system. While I agree torque is important, my dodge dually puts out well over 1,150 pounds...do you think I would beat a bone stock clk bs in a drag race? You also have to look at gearing at the f430 is at the very least equal to and with its transmission and the 430 way ahead.
You have a modified exhaust and without tuning, the gains are simply because the OEM exhaust is very heavy and you have reduced the weight which is accounting for the performance. Just some hints but rather than looking at ti nuts, you are better off spending the money on perhaps cleaning up the intake system. While I agree torque is important, my dodge dually puts out well over 1,150 pounds...do you think I would beat a bone stock clk bs in a drag race? You also have to look at gearing at the f430 is at the very least equal to and with its transmission and the 430 way ahead.
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Not trying to doubt you or anything but you were able to beat an SLS, Lamborghini Gallardo, Ferrari F430, and a 2008 Porsche 911 turbo with your current setup and you're not even running a LTH or a tuned ECU? So you engine setup is stock or what? I mean besides the open down pipes and not having any mufs of res.
Also your setup looks somewhat familiar from another member who was selling his CLK with the same wheels? Anymore pics of the rear diffuser? What size are your wheel setup?
Also your setup looks somewhat familiar from another member who was selling his CLK with the same wheels? Anymore pics of the rear diffuser? What size are your wheel setup?
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First off, I love my black series but.....I have to call bull on that unless they didn't know they were racing.
You have a modified exhaust and without tuning, the performance gains are simply because the OEM exhaust is very heavy and you have reduced weight. Just some hints but rather than looking at ti nuts, you are better off spending the money on perhaps cleaning up the intake system. Torque is important put my dodge dually puts out well over 1,150 pounds...do you think I would beat a bone stock clk bs in a drag race?
You have a modified exhaust and without tuning, the performance gains are simply because the OEM exhaust is very heavy and you have reduced weight. Just some hints but rather than looking at ti nuts, you are better off spending the money on perhaps cleaning up the intake system. Torque is important put my dodge dually puts out well over 1,150 pounds...do you think I would beat a bone stock clk bs in a drag race?
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LOL I am over 800 pounds at 2,500 rpm....you need to factor in gearing my friend gearing!
I appreciate how happy you are with the car and I think that is great but there is no way the clk would take the 430 (I used to have one) based on freeing up the clk exhaust unless the f driver didn't know he was racing until you had already put a jump on him.
I appreciate how happy you are with the car and I think that is great but there is no way the clk would take the 430 (I used to have one) based on freeing up the clk exhaust unless the f driver didn't know he was racing until you had already put a jump on him.
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LOL I am over 800 pounds at 2,500 rpm....you need to factor in gearing my friend gearing!
I appreciate how happy you are with the car and I think that is great but there is no way the clk would take the 430 (I used to have one) based on freeing up the clk exhaust unless the f driver didn't know he was racing until you had already put a jump on him.
I appreciate how happy you are with the car and I think that is great but there is no way the clk would take the 430 (I used to have one) based on freeing up the clk exhaust unless the f driver didn't know he was racing until you had already put a jump on him.
Not a rocket science. Like I said...look at the torque figures for the Black and then for the F430 (I listed them above for you so you wont have to search for it on the net)...the answer would be in front of you. There is nothing to debate over...its all in numbers... Btw, saying that the F430 got smoked is an understatment...that guy in all runs was left behind at least 6-7 cars distance behind. I'll even make it easier for you... I had even let him take off first and have a very slight early start (about half a sec ahead)...just to make sure that there was no doubt. Ok...maybe we went a bit higher than 120...probably 140MPH or so but I wasn't keeping an eye on the speedometer...but rather at my rpm gauge and making sure I shifted gears exactly at the peak of my torque. He knew he was racing and he got smooookkeeeeeddd!!!!!!!
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But in the mean time...I am enjoying the heck out of smoking those F430s. Don't give me wrong...I like Ferraris too...but even though the F430 may be pulling faster from stop to say around 40 MPH (mainly due to the lighter frame...once you reach a certain speed (say around 40MPH)...then torque becomes the priority...the CLK would be pulling hard...while the F430 would be accelareting much slower (regresively) compared to the CLK Black. They are both good cars...but I prefer the one that smokes the other from 40MPH to say 120MPH...and we both know which one it is based on the torque figures.
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I am enjoying the hell out of this car!! Thanks mate!!! Well...hopefully you won't have the 1150 lb-ft Dodge with you, 'cause I would be hesitant to race you...cause something tells me that you would smoke my car...
But in the mean time...I am enjoying the heck out of smoking those F430s. Don't give me wrong...I like Ferraris too...but even though the F430 may be pulling faster from stop to say around 40 MPH (mainly due to the lighter frame...once you reach a certain speed (say around 40MPH)...then torque becomes the priority...the CLK would be pulling hard...while the F430 would be accelareting much slower (regresively) compared to the CLK Black. They are both good cars...but I prefer the one that smokes the other from 40MPH to say 120MPH...and we both know which one it is based on the torque figures.
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Correct! I know it sounds strange, but the OEM torque of CLK Black is more than enough to smoke those cars I mentioned with closed eyes. I know cause I did it...I've seen it with my own eyes...and yes I am not blind. No LTH and no tune as of yet. Just performance air filters and open down pipes...with 180 lbs off of the car. I am looking very very forward to do the LTH and the tune and see how much different the car would be. I did notice a substantial difference going from regular OEM exhaust to open down pipes. But keep in mind...here in Florida...no emission requirements and no smog tests. Amen for that!!! As far as noise...I am used to it by now and yes...it is very very loud. That thing roars very very very loud! Everytime I go through my garage...it sets off other car alarms left and right. LMAO.
No LTH and no tune as of yet. Just performance air filters and open down pipes...with 180 lbs off of the car. I am looking very very forward to do the LTH and the tune and see how much different the car would be. I did notice a substantial difference going from regular OEM exhaust to open down pipes. But keep in mind...here in Florida...no emission requirements and no smog tests. Amen for that!!! As far as noise...I am used to it by now and yes...it is very very loud. That thing roars very very very loud! Everytime I go through my garage...it sets off other car alarms left and right. LMAO.Glad you are enjoying your BS, but you really need to understand that it is not nearly as fast as you think it is and most of what you have said here is complete nonsense.
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I am almost positive that from your (limited) perspective when you get long tubes and a tune you will have the fastest car on the plant and be putting 50 car lengths on UGR cars left and right.
Glad you are enjoying your BS, but you really need to understand that it is not nearly as fast as you think it is and most of what you have said here is complete nonsense.
Glad you are enjoying your BS, but you really need to understand that it is not nearly as fast as you think it is and most of what you have said here is complete nonsense.
When exactly was the last time you looked into understanding how torque comparisons work? Thank you!! You get the point. You seem to insist in horsepower and weight. There are more things into cars, asides horsepower and weight. Torque is one of them. I think I am very close to saying what Ecambell used on me... "I give up...you win...as you don't understand about torque and I am just too lazy to educate you".
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Correct! I know it sounds strange, but the OEM torque of CLK Black is more than enough to smoke those cars I mentioned with closed eyes. I know cause I did it...I've seen it with my own eyes...and yes I am not blind. No LTH and no tune as of yet. Just performance air filters and open down pipes...with 180 lbs off of the car. I am looking very very forward to do the LTH and the tune and see how much different the car would be. I did notice a substantial difference going from regular OEM exhaust to open down pipes. But keep in mind...here in Florida...no emission requirements and no smog tests. Amen for that!!! As far as noise...I am used to it by now and yes...it is very very loud. That thing roars very very very loud! Everytime I go through my garage...it sets off other car alarms left and right. LMAO.
No LTH and no tune as of yet. Just performance air filters and open down pipes...with 180 lbs off of the car. I am looking very very forward to do the LTH and the tune and see how much different the car would be. I did notice a substantial difference going from regular OEM exhaust to open down pipes. But keep in mind...here in Florida...no emission requirements and no smog tests. Amen for that!!! As far as noise...I am used to it by now and yes...it is very very loud. That thing roars very very very loud! Everytime I go through my garage...it sets off other car alarms left and right. LMAO.
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As long as you don't bring down the Dodge...then I will race you. You bring the Dodge and I give up. 1150 lb-ft...I don't even wanna try it. Forget about it. What's the point. LMAO.
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