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Old Jul 30, 2020 | 03:07 PM
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we'll know soon, with tests for the press, anyway.
I hope that I'm dead wrong.
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Old Jul 30, 2020 | 03:13 PM
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I think it's going to have and sound like a muted lion roar. Here is a video of a start up I did on the F8 Tributo I test drove last December. I'm thinking there will be a similarity here. If all else is good on the car which I'm hoping it will be. Some sort of an exhaust mod might be all that's needed.


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Old Jul 30, 2020 | 03:16 PM
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Sounds like an inverse exhaust, as in vacuum.
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Old Jul 31, 2020 | 05:23 AM
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Old Jul 31, 2020 | 12:01 PM
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Uk pricing confirmed today.

£335k

all options are included, as per pro you choose colour and seats. That’s it.

Us pricing definitely $400k+
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Old Jul 31, 2020 | 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by WhiteBlack
Uk pricing confirmed today.

£335k

all options are included, as per pro you choose colour and seats. That’s it.

Us pricing definitely $400k+
What was the UK pricing on the PRO? £188?
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Old Jul 31, 2020 | 12:25 PM
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What was the UK pricing on the PRO? £188?
Thats correct. Slight uplift for some paint options but other wise all same.
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Old Jul 31, 2020 | 01:27 PM
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Thats correct. Slight uplift for some paint options but other wise all same.
Thanks. Wild price uplift to the BS.
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Do we know when US pricing will be released?
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Originally Posted by benzbell
I think it's going to have and sound like a muted lion roar. Here is a video of a start up I did on the F8 Tributo I test drove last December. I'm thinking there will be a similarity here. If all else is good on the car which I'm hoping it will be. Some sort of an exhaust mod might be all that's needed.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18ztzxY7Pq8
Road&Track (Aug 2020) "How Ferrari lost its voice". The article bemoans the sound which is going to be the norm with the emission, and noise restriction in Europe. Everyone wants what they use to have. Wait till the Tesla Roadster hits with no sound.
I wish I could have recoded Dick Landy's 426 Hemi that he ran with a flat plane crank in 1965. Nothing will ever come close but those were the days. I digress.
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Road&Track (Aug 2020) "How Ferrari lost its voice". The article bemoans the sound which is going to be the norm with the emission, and noise restriction in Europe. Everyone wants what they use to have. Wait till the Tesla Roadster hits with no sound.
I wish I could have recoded Dick Landy's 426 Hemi that he ran with a flat plane crank in 1965. Nothing will ever come close but those were the days. I digress.
I have a 1969 Corvette L71 (427 BB Tri-power) with factory side pipes. My ears bleed pure joy.
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Old Jul 31, 2020 | 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by WhiteBlack
Uk pricing confirmed today.

£335k

all options are included, as per pro you choose colour and seats. That’s it.

Us pricing definitely $400k+
Generally one takes the price in GBP and that then becomes the number for an European produced vehicle in US $’s. So expect the car to be priced at around $335K US decently loaded.

I simply can’t see them selling many of them in the US at $400K.

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Old Jul 31, 2020 | 09:35 PM
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Generally one takes the price in GBP and that then becomes the number for an European produced vehicle in US $’s. So expect the car to be priced at around $335K US decently loaded.

I simply can’t see them selling many of them in the US at $400K.

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Bish:

I am hoping you are considering getting a GT Black.

I hope you are right about the US pricing. That will put it close to cars they are competing with in the market.....Porsche GT2 RS and GT3 RS and some Lambos.
I want to drive it not just store it and hope it will appreciate in the future or just sit around to be looked at.

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Old Jul 31, 2020 | 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by thebishman
Generally one takes the price in GBP and that then becomes the number for an European produced vehicle in US $’s. So expect the car to be priced at around $335K US decently loaded.

I simply can’t see them selling many of them in the US at $400K.

Bish
Hasn't the official US pricing already been released on the Black Series...it starts at $389k or $392k from what I understand? Or are these guesses based on Euro pricing. I hope the performance is underrated quite a bit from the factory and it does far better than it's published numbers...time will tell shortly hopefully.

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Old Aug 1, 2020 | 09:47 AM
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I understand from a very good source in Atlanta (4 days ago) that the final USA price has yet to be finalized.. My GM and zone rep have no info on the price and the rep has a few BS heading into his area...
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Old Aug 1, 2020 | 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by thebishman
Generally one takes the price in GBP and that then becomes the number for an European produced vehicle in US $’s. So expect the car to be priced at around $335K US decently loaded.

I simply can’t see them selling many of them in the US at $400K.

Bish
that doesn’t hold true for anything I can think of.

if it’s $335k I’d import one!
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Old Aug 1, 2020 | 06:58 PM
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...I’m still sticking with $285 + options and, of course, the tax without an offset...such as, a Montana registration...so, all in with a fun exotic color ~$325-335 USD.

but then again; hope, it always dies last...

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Old Aug 3, 2020 | 05:41 AM
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Some heads up on delays here in Europe after my order.
my salesman informed me today that the production for my black serie is planned for august/september 2021 (instead of october 2020 as originally planned.)
i kept my order but asked for the reasons of such delays. I'll keep you posted.
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Old Aug 3, 2020 | 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by vgarcin
Some heads up on delays here in Europe after my order.
my salesman informed me today that the production for my black serie is planned for august/september 2021 (instead of october 2020 as originally planned.)
i kept my order but asked for the reasons of such delays. I'll keep you posted.
Documents I have from Friday last week all state 10/20 production.

That sort of delay would imply a fundamental flaw in the car imo.
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Old Aug 3, 2020 | 09:07 AM
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So does a 10/20 production start imply cars for the 'ONE' guys and VIP's or for those who don't meet that criteria..? If they only build a couple a day, the 'ONE' guys will take up a couple on months of production, then you have the Holidays kicking in... I know of one VIP car coming into my area and some how he got one of the first TDF's, GT2RS and always seems to get the first new Corvette'.. So how many world wide VIP's are out there ? Then you get to those of us who are fortunate enough to be in line for one.... I would think mid-summer production would be more realistic....
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Old Aug 3, 2020 | 10:17 AM
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So does a 10/20 production start imply cars for the 'ONE' guys and VIP's or for those who don't meet that criteria..? If they only build a couple a day, the 'ONE' guys will take up a couple on months of production, then you have the Holidays kicking in... I know of one VIP car coming into my area and some how he got one of the first TDF's, GT2RS and always seems to get the first new Corvette'.. So how many world wide VIP's are out there ? Then you get to those of us who are fortunate enough to be in line for one.... I would think mid-summer production would be more realistic....
I'm not a P1 customer and would not consider myself a VIP. I was told to expect January.
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Old Aug 3, 2020 | 12:06 PM
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I was told i would have the car produced in October originally.
The news came this morning - the car (mine at least) will be delayed until August/September next year.
When I asked why the delivery was delayed, my salesman indicated that this is due to the pace of production of the car. As I'm not a VIP or P1 customer, i might just be at the end of the list.

Consider that i formally ordered the car and got the contract signed, so this timing information came straight from Mercedes. It is not an estimation given by random salesmen.

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Old Aug 3, 2020 | 05:58 PM
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In the UK everyone leases because they give such a high GFV to make the sales and the depreciation is so wild that people want a fixed cost.

Btw the GT is their worst selling car ever, I think 4 total in UK. It does come with an optional sous vide so I guess it might be interesting if you like cooking.
I bought a 570s spider last week, my s8 and s3 leases got stolen 2/3 years ago and the process left a bad taste in my mouth

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This is looking less and less promising for a $300kish price point.

"Mercedes has announced the pricing details of the new AMG GT Black Series for the UK market and as expected, it’s pretty eye-watering expensive. Like £335,000 (equal to $438,000 at today’s exchange rates) kind of expensive." https://www.carscoops.com/2020/08/20...eap-in-the-uk/

If FI I might just go for the 992 TTS that blows the doors off of the 720s, which at at around $220k well specced all of a sudden looks like the best deal ever.

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Old Aug 3, 2020 | 10:32 PM
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My take: It would appear that MB has severe capacity constraints and has calculated what they believe is the upper pricing threshold that would still enable them to sell every car they’re able to make. I don’t think anyone is really cross shopping this car with other brands so pricing won’t be based on the market per se. I suspect the buyers are either wealthy hardcore AMG fans upgrading from their GTR’s or big multi brand collectors, neither of which should be phased by the car being priced $75k more than, say a GT2 RS or Pista. The BS is a niche car that will be produced in far fewer numbers than either of those.
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