GT Black Series Production Numbers USA

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Jun 15, 2021 | 03:47 PM
  #76  
Quote: Is your dealer asking over MSRP for these inbound Blacks? Since they have serial numbers already they may have been off loaded at the Brunswick VPC over the weekend.

I think the allocations are for AUTO NATION as the corporate owner of several dealerships. I would think the first dealer in their network with a qualified buyer willing to pay their premium price will get the prize. Don’t know for sure but supposidly there were no “order for inventory” orders allowed. The buyer had to be specific and qualified to get a legit car.
Now we all know there are ways around those rules but that’s what the process was supposed to be so that there was no dealer scalping done.

In any event hopefully you get yours at a price you are willing to pay.

Regards

Jerry
Hey, they're not for sale, I was there speaking with my guy yesterday. Obviously you can look in the system and see what salesman was involved with the car and talk to them and I was told thats what he would do for me. Im fine paying over within reason. I don't think this is a $500k+ car like the SLS black series simply bc they made way less of those. They wouldn't sell any ordered cars OVER, only cars in inventory. They don't wanna **** off customers, but some cars like they have 1 G manufaktur right now, whatever special edition it is, they're asking $100k over for the red g63. We've all owned plenty of mercedes, very few in history have risen in price. SLS black series, C63 black series,G63, thats about it off the top of my head. Hell even my SLR I bought with 2200 miles and it was $531k in 2009 and i paid $350k in 2021. Paying over sticker for a mercedes is a losing proposition in most instances even these black series, very cool cars, very exclusive but the GTR pro is 95% of this car for 1/2 the price. With that said, I love it and hopefully can work something out for a decent price. There was 1 allocation on ebay a few months ago for $40k over, but it was gone within a day. So i dont think you will see these with astronomical asks.
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Jun 15, 2021 | 03:52 PM
  #77  
Quote: Hey, they're not for sale, I was there speaking with my guy yesterday. Obviously you can look in the system and see what salesman was involved with the car and talk to them and I was told thats what he would do for me. Im fine paying over within reason. I don't think this is a $500k+ car like the SLS black series simply bc they made way less of those. They wouldn't sell any ordered cars OVER, only cars in inventory. They don't wanna **** off customers, but some cars like they have 1 G manufaktur right now, whatever special edition it is, they're asking $100k over for the red g63. We've all owned plenty of mercedes, very few in history have risen in price. SLS black series, C63 black series,G63, thats about it off the top of my head. Hell even my SLR I bought with 2200 miles and it was $531k in 2009 and i paid $350k in 2021. Paying over sticker for a mercedes is a losing proposition in most instances even these black series, very cool cars, very exclusive but the GTR pro is 95% of this car for 1/2 the price. With that said, I love it and hopefully can work something out for a decent price. There was 1 allocation on ebay a few months ago for $40k over, but it was gone within a day. So i dont think you will see these with astronomical asks.
We shall see.
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Jun 15, 2021 | 03:57 PM
  #78  
Quote: I stand corrected. They did get 3 allocations and all of them are sold. The guestimated ship dates at this point are 1h july once they clear out the S Classes that have been sitting since January. Allocations 2 and 3 were priced/agreed upon the build order date and they were not cheap. Another dealer I know traded their 1 GTBS allocation for 5 G63 allocations.
I just checked their site right now, there's actually 4 on there at the moment, was 2 this morning

https://www.mercedesbenzgreenway.com...etPrice%20desc
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Jun 15, 2021 | 04:15 PM
  #79  
Ha. Dealers Website means nothing in terms of cars availability.

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Jun 15, 2021 | 05:18 PM
  #80  
Quote: How much over sticker would be advisable to pay for one of these, my dealer has 3 coming in and thinks he can get me one. I see production is 3x that of the SLS black series from whats posted above. Out of curiousity for future reference, how does one go about getting something like this. I have alot of cars from the same dealer, this year alone i bought a 2009 slr roadster and a '21 E63S wagon. Im always on top of this stuff but they only had 3 allocations of these and the people who got them ordered them like multiple years ago. I truly hadn't even heard of the GT black series till maybe last october and I immediately asked and there were no allocations. Just curious and genuinely interested bc Im a great customer of my dealers but I want to be able to get the exclusive stuff like this down the road. My salesman is an old man he doesn't really seem to have much insight to offer.
They do have 3 inbound. The dealers got them based on clients they have and relationship with the manufacturer. Some big dealers got only 1 and some small stores got 1 or more. I won't name dealers or cities, but some dealers got 7 plus BS.

The first orange GT BS on their website is from another dealer MA041811. Maybe they're sharing inventory? It's Houston North not Greenway
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Jun 15, 2021 | 05:25 PM
  #81  
Quote: I just checked their site right now, there's actually 4 on there at the moment, was 2 this morning

https://www.mercedesbenzgreenway.com...etPrice%20desc
Here’s a puzzling question for you to consider;

If all of these cars are SOLD then why are they being listed on the dealer site as FOR SALE - INBOUND?

I don’t know how you would feel if one of those cars were your on order car but I would be in front of the dealer GM first thing tomorrow morning expecting an answer.

Regards
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Jun 15, 2021 | 05:31 PM
  #82  
Quote: Here’s a puzzling question for you to consider;

If all of these cars are SOLD then why are they being listed on the dealer site as FOR SALE - INBOUND?

I don’t know how you would feel if one of those cars were your on order car but I would be in front of the dealer GM first thing tomorrow morning expecting an answer.

Regards
Autonation is automated, once cars populate into their system they post to the net automatically. The manager has to manually take them down, unless they want attention and now they have it.
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Jun 15, 2021 | 06:01 PM
  #83  
Quote: Here’s a puzzling question for you to consider;

If all of these cars are SOLD then why are they being listed on the dealer site as FOR SALE - INBOUND?

I don’t know how you would feel if one of those cars were your on order car but I would be in front of the dealer GM first thing tomorrow morning expecting an answer.

Regards
it’s their system, my s580 is on there as well, doesn’t bother me, it seems automated.
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Jun 15, 2021 | 06:11 PM
  #84  
Quote: Here’s a puzzling question for you to consider;

If all of these cars are SOLD then why are they being listed on the dealer site as FOR SALE - INBOUND?

I don’t know how you would feel if one of those cars were your on order car but I would be in front of the dealer GM first thing tomorrow morning expecting an answer.

Regards
My GTR was transferred from an MB dealership in Orlando to my local dealership. I noticed it showed up on my local dealership's website inventory - listed as "in-transit." I called them about why my car was on their website since I already signed the papers. It is just their automated inventory tracker
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Jun 15, 2021 | 06:57 PM
  #85  
Good discussion.

However I would suggest that if they are using the dealer site as you suggest, they do have a “Sold” status/designation available for their use.

I am NOT a attorney but this practice smacks of the age old “bait and switch” don’t you think.

Look at us like sharks in the water looking for inbound/available BS units.

We call or go into the dealership to get one before they are gone only to be told “Oh that one is sold but we can get you one”

Not a very professional business practice.

Stay tuned.



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Jun 15, 2021 | 07:05 PM
  #86  
Quote: Hey, they're not for sale, I was there speaking with my guy yesterday. Obviously you can look in the system and see what salesman was involved with the car and talk to them and I was told thats what he would do for me. Im fine paying over within reason. I don't think this is a $500k+ car like the SLS black series simply bc they made way less of those. They wouldn't sell any ordered cars OVER, only cars in inventory. They don't wanna **** off customers, but some cars like they have 1 G manufaktur right now, whatever special edition it is, they're asking $100k over for the red g63. We've all owned plenty of mercedes, very few in history have risen in price. SLS black series, C63 black series,G63, thats about it off the top of my head. Hell even my SLR I bought with 2200 miles and it was $531k in 2009 and i paid $350k in 2021. Paying over sticker for a mercedes is a losing proposition in most instances even these black series, very cool cars, very exclusive but the GTR pro is 95% of this car for 1/2 the price. With that said, I love it and hopefully can work something out for a decent price. There was 1 allocation on ebay a few months ago for $40k over, but it was gone within a day. So i dont think you will see these with astronomical asks.
I came to that same conclusion which is why I bought a GT R PRO. And when compared to a GT3 RS it's an absolute bargain! Actually the PRO will be the more exclusive car in the US market with only (150) imported vs the anticipated 300+ BS. Don't get me wrong I think the BS is sick and congrats to all that have one on the way! Cheers.
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Jun 15, 2021 | 10:24 PM
  #87  
Quote: Hey, they're not for sale, I was there speaking with my guy yesterday. Obviously you can look in the system and see what salesman was involved with the car and talk to them and I was told thats what he would do for me.

I guess I’m not the only condescending , negative , questioning turd out there.

btw, Orcbolg kiss my butt.
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Jun 16, 2021 | 07:38 AM
  #88  
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Jun 16, 2021 | 09:35 AM
  #89  
I have the only Night Black Magno GT Black Series coming to the US as of now, and the car is still available.

MSRP + market premium.

Please send me a message if you are interested.

Thanks!
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Jun 16, 2021 | 10:59 AM
  #90  
Quote: I have the only Night Black Magno GT Black Series coming to the US as of now, and the car is still available.

MSRP + market premium.

Please send me a message if you are interested.

Thanks!
Hmm, pretty ballsy to post that in the open.

My guess is that if it's a paint to sample can it isn't a dealer order, and being the only one in the US means that MB can now trace it back to the owner who's trying to flip it.

Not judging it, just saying that there might be consequences ... it's not unheard of for a manufacturer to pull someone''s allocation if they get wind that they're trying to flip it.

All that aside, that color should look epic.
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Jun 16, 2021 | 11:03 AM
  #91  
Quote: Hmm, pretty ballsy to post that in the open.

My guess is that if it's a paint to sample can it isn't a dealer order, and being the only one in the US means that MB can now trace it back to the owner who's trying to flip it.

Not judging it, just saying that there might be consequences ... it's not unheard of for a manufacturer to pull someone''s allocation if they get wind that they're trying to flip it.

All that aside, that color should look epic.
It will be an epic car, no doubt.
I am a dealership, not the end consumer purchaser.
Cheers
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Jun 16, 2021 | 11:28 AM
  #92  
Quote: Hmm, pretty ballsy to post that in the open.

My guess is that if it's a paint to sample can it isn't a dealer order, and being the only one in the US means that MB can now trace it back to the owner who's trying to flip it.

Not judging it, just saying that there might be consequences ... it's not unheard of for a manufacturer to pull someone''s allocation if they get wind that they're trying to flip it.

All that aside, that color should look epic.
Yeah, either a dealer or allocation getting revoked LOL
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Jun 16, 2021 | 01:07 PM
  #93  
Quote: It will be an epic car, no doubt.
I am a dealership, not the end consumer purchaser.
Cheers
But is it your order or are you trying to move one of your P1 customer’s order?
Cause I had been informed paint to sample was only available to them.

Again either way I personally don’t have an issue with it, but MB might if it’s the latter and that’s usually why these things don’t usually get posted in public.
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Jun 16, 2021 | 02:22 PM
  #94  
Quote: Hmm, pretty ballsy to post that in the open.

My guess is that if it's a paint to sample can it isn't a dealer order, and being the only one in the US means that MB can now trace it back to the owner who's trying to flip it.

Not judging it, just saying that there might be consequences ... it's not unheard of for a manufacturer to pull someone''s allocation if they get wind that they're trying to flip it.

All that aside, that color should look epic.
MBUSA doesn't care.
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Jun 16, 2021 | 02:29 PM
  #95  
Quote: MBUSA doesn't care.
They actually do, and will pull an order or punish the dealer by not giving future allocation of specialty vehicles. I am not privy to discuss, but there was an order for a GT BS that was pulled from a dealer because the client was no longer taking the car. The dealer had to sign documents stating the vehicle will only be sold to so and so and to be returned to MBUSA if client does not take delivery.
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Jun 16, 2021 | 02:29 PM
  #96  
Quote: But is it your order or are you trying to move one of your P1 customer’s order?
Cause I had been informed paint to sample was only available to them.

Again either way I personally don’t have an issue with it, but MB might if it’s the latter and that’s usually why these things don’t usually get posted in public.
Night Black Magno is a Mercedes color, not a custom paint to sample.
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Jun 16, 2021 | 02:39 PM
  #97  
Quote: Night Black Magno is a Mercedes color, not a custom paint to sample.
But It’s not a selection for the MBBS. So to get it you would have to have a PTO approval unless it is offered as an option in countries outside the US.

Also, may have missed it but it isn’t listed in Burt’s paint option post either.
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Jun 16, 2021 | 04:18 PM
  #98  
Quote: But is it your order or are you trying to move one of your P1 customer’s order?
Cause I had been informed paint to sample was only available to them.

Again either way I personally don’t have an issue with it, but MB might if it’s the latter and that’s usually why these things don’t usually get posted in public.

It is an available unit in our inventory.

You do not have to be a P1 client to process a designo Manufaktur Custom Order.

Also, it was listed in Burt's orginal post....
  • 056 Nacht Black Metallic Magno 1
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Jun 16, 2021 | 05:30 PM
  #99  
That’s actually new info that many of us wish we had known earlier.

Like many others I was told that paint to sample wasn’t available to me.
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Jun 16, 2021 | 07:44 PM
  #100  
Quote: It is an available unit in our inventory.

You do not have to be a P1 client to process a designo Manufaktur Custom Order.
Also, it was listed in Burt's orginal post....
  • 056 Nacht Black Metallic Magno 1
.

Many of us as BS purchasers were told that after checking with MB distribution.

BTW: You aren’t really saying that your dealership has this car in their possession now are you?

Thanks. It’s there and I did miss it in Burt’s post.

Regards

Jerry
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