Confused on Terry Cloth vs. Microfiber Towels
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Confused on Terry Cloth vs. Microfiber Towels
Hi, I recently took delivery of a 2005 SL600 with a black exterior that looks fantastic right now, but I know the challenges of a black car. I have been reading about drying towels and have become totally confused as to what to use. Some say just terry cloth towels, ofthers say microfiber towels, which there sees to be many varieties. I would like to hear some specifics of forum members recommendations. Any help or suggestions will be appreciated.
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Originally Posted by StephenK
Hi, I recently took delivery of a 2005 SL600 with a black exterior that looks fantastic right now, but I know the challenges of a black car. I have been reading about drying towels and have become totally confused as to what to use. Some say just terry cloth towels, ofthers say microfiber towels, which there sees to be many varieties. I would like to hear some specifics of forum members recommendations. Any help or suggestions will be appreciated.
If you would like to check out my SL600 feel free to click the link to see some photos. Photos of 2005 SL600
If you would like to check out my SL600 feel free to click the link to see some photos. Photos of 2005 SL600
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what do you think of this one, i have been thinking of trying this
http://www.microfiberplus.com/better.htm
http://www.microfiberplus.com/better.htm
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~One man’s opinion / observations~
Bear in mind that I’m very biased towards natural micro fibre fabrics (DF Towels) but there are some excellent synthetic Microfiber cloths/towels around
Microfiber (micro fibre):
Micro fibre by definition (very small; involving minute quantities or variations) is not a fabric; it is a yarn, spun into thread, which is then used to weave a fabric. These ultra-fine yarns (2X as fine as silk and 100X finer than a human hair) are made form various sources They can be made from nylon, polyester, nylon by-products or a natural material such as cellulose (a plant carbohydrate) both linen and cotton are natural plant fibres.
Micro fibres are never used alone but spun together with other yarn to form a less dense weave (100% micro fibre would be very dense, non-absorbent and almost satin like)
The smaller the diameter of the yarn, the softer the fabric will feel, however this does not mean that its non-abrasive and will not cause scratches (this softness can also be chemically induced) Most Microfiber that originates from Asia and the far east is fabricated from nylon, polyester or nylon by-products. Because the label says Microfiber is no assurance that the material is safe to use or that it is non-abrasive.
Its scratch resistance has a lot to do with the way the fibres are processed and spun, there are too many factors to be able to say conclusively that natural fibres will not cause scratches and artificial fibres will. In my opinion, however, natural fibres are far less likely to scratch.
The most important criteria for any fabric used on a vehicle surface is its quality and scratch resistance. Natural cellulose can be spun with long staple cotton and then woven into a 100% natural terrycloth type fabric. This is very soft, absorbent, and non-abrasive and will not cause scratching. Once this type of fabric is washed two or three times, to remove any short fibres it will not leave a lint trail.
Quality towels edge bindings are sewn with cotton thread, not polyester. To ensure your towels and buffing clothes provide long-term use, wash them frequently in a liquid soap (Micro Restore) in hot (120oF<) water, add a teaspoon per towel distilled white vinegar, the vinegar doesn't coat the fibres but instead works to eliminate detergent residue and finally a thorough cold rinse. Always wash micro fibre separately and only with other micro fibre fabrics
CD Scratch Test- with a micro fibre cloth, using medium to heavy pressure rub the surface of a CD. If there are no scratches then it probably wont scratch the vehicles paint surface.
Burn Test- to test a material for polyester content, light a thread, if it emits a black wisp of smoke and then shrivels up into a black hard ball, its polyester and can scratch your paint.
~Hope this helps~
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Bear in mind that I’m very biased towards natural micro fibre fabrics (DF Towels) but there are some excellent synthetic Microfiber cloths/towels around
Microfiber (micro fibre):
Micro fibre by definition (very small; involving minute quantities or variations) is not a fabric; it is a yarn, spun into thread, which is then used to weave a fabric. These ultra-fine yarns (2X as fine as silk and 100X finer than a human hair) are made form various sources They can be made from nylon, polyester, nylon by-products or a natural material such as cellulose (a plant carbohydrate) both linen and cotton are natural plant fibres.
Micro fibres are never used alone but spun together with other yarn to form a less dense weave (100% micro fibre would be very dense, non-absorbent and almost satin like)
The smaller the diameter of the yarn, the softer the fabric will feel, however this does not mean that its non-abrasive and will not cause scratches (this softness can also be chemically induced) Most Microfiber that originates from Asia and the far east is fabricated from nylon, polyester or nylon by-products. Because the label says Microfiber is no assurance that the material is safe to use or that it is non-abrasive.
Its scratch resistance has a lot to do with the way the fibres are processed and spun, there are too many factors to be able to say conclusively that natural fibres will not cause scratches and artificial fibres will. In my opinion, however, natural fibres are far less likely to scratch.
The most important criteria for any fabric used on a vehicle surface is its quality and scratch resistance. Natural cellulose can be spun with long staple cotton and then woven into a 100% natural terrycloth type fabric. This is very soft, absorbent, and non-abrasive and will not cause scratching. Once this type of fabric is washed two or three times, to remove any short fibres it will not leave a lint trail.
Quality towels edge bindings are sewn with cotton thread, not polyester. To ensure your towels and buffing clothes provide long-term use, wash them frequently in a liquid soap (Micro Restore) in hot (120oF<) water, add a teaspoon per towel distilled white vinegar, the vinegar doesn't coat the fibres but instead works to eliminate detergent residue and finally a thorough cold rinse. Always wash micro fibre separately and only with other micro fibre fabrics
CD Scratch Test- with a micro fibre cloth, using medium to heavy pressure rub the surface of a CD. If there are no scratches then it probably wont scratch the vehicles paint surface.
Burn Test- to test a material for polyester content, light a thread, if it emits a black wisp of smoke and then shrivels up into a black hard ball, its polyester and can scratch your paint.
~Hope this helps~
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TOGWT - very informative post, as usual. Thanks for all that you bring to these forums.
Something I read on a detailing forum once has stuck with me ever since, ‘Each one teach one”
I have always tried to find out not just “How it works, but also “Why” it works. With that in mind I probably respond with more detail than some think is necessary. But try to write in a way that helps the reader to understand not only "How" to do something, but "Why" they are doing it.
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Originally Posted by TOGWT
Thank you.
Something I read on a detailing forum once has stuck with me ever since, ‘Each one teach one”
I have always tried to find out not just “How it works, but also “Why” it works. With that in mind I probably respond with more detail than some think is necessary. But try to write in a way that helps the reader to understand not only "How" to do something, but "Why" they are doing it.
Knowledge unshared is experience wasted
justadumbarchitect / so I question everything/ Jon
Something I read on a detailing forum once has stuck with me ever since, ‘Each one teach one”
I have always tried to find out not just “How it works, but also “Why” it works. With that in mind I probably respond with more detail than some think is necessary. But try to write in a way that helps the reader to understand not only "How" to do something, but "Why" they are doing it.
Knowledge unshared is experience wasted
justadumbarchitect / so I question everything/ Jon