Marshall_K

Can this be done?
I know the mpg would suffer but what would be needed to accomplish this?
Bigger turbo's? Intercooler?
thx

240D 3.0T

Lots and lots of money.

Andy0331

Having owned both, my guess is that it's "possible", but very unlikely due to cost or the level of custom work that would have to be done.

My '05 CDI had a Kleemann KD box, that certainly enhanced performance & was comparable (or better) to an E500, IMO.

The biggest hurdles with the CDI would be a much larger turbo & intercooler and better programming in the transmission (or different transmisison altogether). Also a limited slip differential & headers would be pretty much required as well.

My CDI would pull hardest (per my "seat of the pants" dyno) at around 2000-3200 rpms. The shifts were pretty slow & weak for sports car performance. The E55 pretty much pulls through the whole range.


My CDI was 6000 miles away from going out of warranty & these thoughts did cross my mind, but finding someone to do the work made it entirely cost prohibitive. I spoke with Cory @ Kleemann about additional mods & he said there just isn't enough demand for a larger turbo/intercooler/headers etc. for Kleemann to pursue it. Plus there really aren't that many CDI's running around the US.

Just my $.02

My KD Box is for sale; great starting point for someone

https://mbworld.org/forums/classifieds/214168-fs-kleemann-kd-box-e320-cdi.html

Untertürkheim

If you want a lightning fast diesel, get an E420 CDI. The only requirement is that you live in Europe.

Marshall_K

Thx for your responses. Just wondered if there was any sporting potential to the E320 diesel.

Umm, not moving to the EU for the E420.

99e320

get the tuning box, take off the 2 stock cats, and leave the 2 stock mufflers that should give you a kick in the pants

tuikku

.
Like 240D… wrote, it can be done.
Annual vehicle inspection might be some kind of happening….

Big wallet.
Big cooler.
Big VNT-charger.
Bigger injectors.
Big exhaust pipes.
1600bar and remapping.
Lots of time.
Lots of smaller mods.

Here is one version.
W124, OM603, tuned pump, Garrett 42VNT, boost/egp ~3bar.
+420hp/+600nm.
Too much power and torque for that car.
Horrible to drive and crazy driver.
Yes, I have been inside that car…..

Here

240D 3.0T

That is a 37VNT. (GT3788V)

tuikku

Yes, you are right.
I remembered incorrectly.
It is that "smaller".

MB Dave

look here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORPWDn2UD6s this will tell all
and this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ep-soNJ8D8Y and this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWCmf...eature=related

i love older mercedes diesel's

007_e350

Guys, I've had a diesel before it was a 2.0L naturally aspirated toyota engine - great torque but very sluggish ... I hope the E320 CDI isn't sluggish My E350 (gasoline) use to give a kick in the nuts once you hit it - do you get the same thing with the CDI ? Also, is bluetec more powerful than CDI ? I hate turbos coz of the lag, really wanna know how CDIs perform ... thanks

240D 3.0T

Yes, its actually faster until the upper speeds when the g@sser's RPM produces more horsepower.

No. Its a poorly designed engine made around meeting emissions limits. It gets less MPG, isn't rebuildable, and has a very expensive particulate filter in the exhaust that eventually will clog.

lkchris

Yes, get an E63 and put E320CDI badges on it.

sunny_j

what will taking the 2 stock cats off do?

240D 3.0T

Uck, don't waste money on naturally aspirated crap.
MB was well right to abandon that engine this year.

Allow the engine to breathe efficiently.

sunny_j

will it effect the sound of the engine, would it throw any faults and would i still pass the emissions test if i remove the cats?

thanks

240D 3.0T

To remove the cat, no. To remove the DPF, you need special programming for that.

WRC7732

What's the DPF??

240D 3.0T

Diesel Particulate Filter.