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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 05:55 AM
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Can I use 0w-30 Longtec in my W210 E300TD?

I just got my car back from my Merc Service centre.
Oily foots prints on my drivers mat.
Anyway I noticed that the oil is different than what was pervious used.
Pervious oil was Castrol 10W40
Most recent oil is Castrol 10W80

Will the 10W80 be OK for my car ???

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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 06:48 AM
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It's hard to read the writing in the service booklet,
it is written as Castrol 0w80
I thought its was 10w80
but it also could be 0w30

The service printout says its Longtec Oil Part # 1532

I'm just worried they've put the wrong oil in.

Any advised much appriciated.
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 07:48 AM
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I've been researching and Ithink the oil they've used is
Castrol 0w-30 Longtec (1532)

I think this is ok to use with my engine.

Can anyone tell me if my 1997 E300TD has exhaust particulate filters???
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 10:09 AM
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Can I use 0w-30 Longtec in my W210 E300TD?

Can I use 0w-30 Longtec in my W210 E300TD?
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 10:50 AM
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I've just confrimed my car does not have a Diesel particulate filter.
So I think they have put in the wrong oil.

Can any one confirm ?
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by jamieh
Can I use 0w-30 Longtec in my W210 E300TD?

This oil carries the spec required by the engine mfr.
  • API SL/CF
  • ACEA A3/B3/B4
  • BMW Longlife-01
  • VW 502 00/503 01/505 00
  • MB 229.3/229.5
  • Approved in accordance with GM-LL-A-025/ GM-LL-B-025
This oil would NOT be suitable in the newest diesels fitted with DPF as it does not meet 229.51.


If you go to the Castrol UK website, they prescribe Magnatec 5W40 for your car. However, the 0W30 will work.

Cheers!
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 06:46 PM
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I would have prefererd Mobil 1 5w-40, but that oil is approved for your car too.
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Old Oct 25, 2007 | 04:29 AM
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thanks for the responses guys,

much appriciated
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I would have prefererd Mobil 1 5w-40, but that oil is approved for your car too.
Do you know why MB specifies synthetic engine oils while the heavy duty truck engines like the Duramax and Powerstroke do not?

I am happy using synthetics for my common rail engine.
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Do you know why MB specifies synthetic engine oils while the heavy duty truck engines like the Duramax and Powerstroke do not?

I am happy using synthetics for my common rail engine.
I would imagine that one significant factor, although not the only reason, is that the average customer of a Mercedes is more careful about maintainance, while many of the customers of American cars are not used to this level of maintainance, and would be put off by those requirements. The engines are then designed to accept mineral lubricants, but will certainly benefit from superior products.

In general, Mercedes engines will have higher output (per unit of volume) and lower tolerances than a GM or Ford engine.
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I would imagine that one significant factor, although not the only reason, is that the average customer of a Mercedes is more careful about maintainance, while many of the customers of American cars are not used to this level of maintainance, and would be put off by those requirements. The engines are then designed to accept mineral lubricants, but will certainly benefit from superior products.

In general, Mercedes engines will have higher output (per unit of volume) and lower tolerances than a GM or Ford engine.
Thanks for your reply.

However, the domestic 2500 or 3500 series trucks are not cheap. When equipped with leather, sunroof and all the goodies they are close to $70,000 before taxes in Toronto. As the Bluetec basic is about the same here they are certainly pricey. Most of the buyers of these USA trucks also work them hard and keep them for a long time (either for work or part time racing) and I think they would treat them with more care than the average sedan driver.
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Originally Posted by harkgar
Thanks for your reply.

However, the domestic 2500 or 3500 series trucks are not cheap. When equipped with leather, sunroof and all the goodies they are close to $70,000 before taxes in Toronto. As the Bluetec basic is about the same here they are certainly pricey. Most of the buyers of these USA trucks also work them hard and keep them for a long time (either for work or part time racing) and I think they would treat them with more care than the average sedan driver.
I am well aware that those trucks are not cheap, moreso I was addressing the US motorist. All you have to do it search these forums and you will find a lot of people driving MB that do not want to pay for premium gasoline or synthetic oil.

I just think that US auto companies design their products with this in mind.

Remember, until very recently the American flagship cars from Cadillac, Ford, and Chrysler were designed to run on regular unleaded and accepted mineral oil.

Those few who do care more about their cars will use the premium product regardless, but the manufacturers do not want to scare away customers with more strict requirements for care.

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Thanks for your reply.

However, the domestic 2500 or 3500 series trucks are not cheap. When equipped with leather, sunroof and all the goodies they are close to $70,000 before taxes in Toronto. As the Bluetec basic is about the same here they are certainly pricey. Most of the buyers of these USA trucks also work them hard and keep them for a long time (either for work or part time racing) and I think they would treat them with more care than the average sedan driver.
70 K? Are you kidding me? My C3500 HD Silverado LTZ MSRP'd for just under 50 K. It has everything you can get except Rear DVD and Nav.

One thing that still puzzles me; when I first started looking at the GL 320, I asked the SA how much the diesel option cost. I almost did a backflip when he said it was less expensive than the gas engine. The Duramax / Allison combination is a $8400 add on.
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Unfortunately true for Canadians

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70 K? Are you kidding me? My C3500 HD Silverado LTZ MSRP'd for just under 50 K. It has everything you can get except Rear DVD and Nav.

One thing that still puzzles me; when I first started looking at the GL 320, I asked the SA how much the diesel option cost. I almost did a backflip when he said it was less expensive than the gas engine. The Duramax / Allison combination is a $8400 add on.
The same car up north is much more expensive. Period. Canadians are subsidizing Americans in a way. Our market is one tenth of yours and some manufacturers like MB has a stranglehold on their franchise. Warranties are not honored sometimes and in order to get an import license the Canadian government requires that the manufacturer certifies the cars

I saw a GM 2500 Duramax with the Allison transmission with no navigation but leather and sunroof listed for CD$68,000.00 which at today's exchange is US$68,000.00 multiplied by 1.07.

Sad but true for us. You do not know you are living.

Canadians are like Swedes. Proud, left leaning but do not like Commies. Taxes are much higher than yours and unions still strong.
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MB is trying to move the diesels

It is true in Europe but since diesels are not popular here the price is lower.

I am not sure if shifting diesel is good on the long run for drivers. In England the government encouraged its citizens to shift to diesel and once the 60% shift was achieved the "chancer" (or is it chancellor of the Exchecker?) increased diesel taxes. Drivers are screwed!

Same will happen in the USA.
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Originally Posted by harkgar
It is true in Europe but since diesels are not popular here the price is lower.

I am not sure if shifting diesel is good on the long run for drivers. In England the government encouraged its citizens to shift to diesel and once the 60% shift was achieved the "chancer" (or is it chancellor of the Exchecker?) increased diesel taxes. Drivers are screwed!

Same will happen in the USA.
Possibly, but we are already paying the same tax for diesel as gas. Now that diesel cost as much or nearly as much as Premium, there's not much wiggle room for the politicians.
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Possibly, but we are already paying the same tax for diesel as gas. Now that diesel cost as much or nearly as much as Premium, there's not much wiggle room for the politicians.
Actually, if I remember correctly, I thought the federal excise tax on diesel is already double what it is for gasoline in the US.
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The Federal tax is $0.184 for both gas and diesel. The state's tax range from $0.13 to $0.33 with gas and diesel being equal or almost equal with a couple exceptions.

Check out you state's Gas Taxes

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Old Nov 4, 2007 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by scottybdiving
The Federal tax is $0.184 for both gas and diesel. The state's tax range from $0.13 to $0.33 with gas and diesel being equal or almost equal with a couple exceptions.

Check out you state's Gas Taxes
That site is missing something very important. The federal GAS tax is 18.4 cents per gallon, as stated at the top. But the Federal tax on diesel is 24.4 cents per gallon.

http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/ohim/mmfr/may07/may07.pdf

Check page 9, federal rate is at the bottom.
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Originally Posted by Untertürkheim
That site is missing something very important. The federal GAS tax is 18.4 cents per gallon, as stated at the top. But the Federal tax on diesel is 24.4 cents per gallon.

http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/ohim/mmfr/may07/may07.pdf

Check page 9, federal rate is at the bottom.
You are correct. I just checked the latest invoice where we purchased 1000 gallons of road diesel for our pickups. They actually show the price of the diesel, then add the state and Fed tax seperately. When I divide by the number of gallons it comes out to $0.244.

Funny thing, our water trucks are unregistered and uninspected and are used exclusively for off-roads. They are even transported from one project to another rather than driven on the road. The state comptroller says we can run red (off-road) diesel but the Feds say not. It's a gray area in their statutes and they interpret it that any vehicle that was manufactured for highway use, must run road diesel, regardless of it's use. In the big picture, it's not a money issue for us, just that we have to transport two differnet types of fuel. The amount of fuel these off-road trucks use is just a fraction of our total fuel consumption.

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Originally Posted by jamieh
I just got my car back from my Merc Service centre.
Oily foots prints on my drivers mat.
Anyway I noticed that the oil is different than what was pervious used.
Pervious oil was Castrol 10W40
Most recent oil is Castrol 10W80

Will the 10W80 be OK for my car ???

10w80 sounds wrong. thats almost gear oil!(well at least in corseness) probably a type-o

should be 10w40 or 5w40

I personally used 0w40 due to winter starts
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