MB bluetec lawsuit in USA
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2009 GL 320
Not yet - was scheduled for Thursday last week but was delayed because "parts were not in the system yet". Now scheduled for Wednesday this week... also trying to get a quote for doing oil cooler seals if the intakes do indeed come of as a part of EMC5. Dealer could not confirm if the intakes come off last I spoke with them, I will ask when I drop the vehicle off.
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2010 GL350 Bluetec
My 2010 is at the dealer this week doing EMC5. Been there since yesterday, and should be done Thursday. While we were going over things the service manager brought up the oil cooler leaking issue and said they are replacing seals once they get in there for an extra hour labor plus parts.
All things considered Id be around 300 bucks for labor, parts and an oil change/Filter...told them to go ahead and do it.
All things considered Id be around 300 bucks for labor, parts and an oil change/Filter...told them to go ahead and do it.
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Walmart, similar to Costco do have occasional deals, when they buy high volume of certain items and sell them at good price. Once they are gone, they are gone and no guarantee they will be available again. When all indication show that the HT is relabeled AP, it shows out of stock for last year, so better seek it somewhere else.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/seort/964022238
https://www.walmart.com/ip/seort/964022238
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2014ML 350 Blutec
My 2010 is at the dealer this week doing EMC5. Been there since yesterday, and should be done Thursday. While we were going over things the service manager brought up the oil cooler leaking issue and said they are replacing seals once they get in there for an extra hour labor plus parts.
All things considered Id be around 300 bucks for labor, parts and an oil change/Filter...told them to go ahead and do it.
All things considered Id be around 300 bucks for labor, parts and an oil change/Filter...told them to go ahead and do it.
I would say you hit the jackpot, hoping something like will happen while mine is under the emissions warranty and Imwill,do the same thing!
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GL350
GL350 immediately started excessively burning oil after AEM
My 2016 GL350 started to excessively burn oil right after AEM was done 03/2021
I brought my GL350 back 06/21 for excessive oil burn as it failed oil consumption test. dealer replaced the turbo, and tech that replaced the turbo creates other issues because I noticed a strong smell of burning oil or diesel coming from the car when I picked it up it ended up a leaking fuel injector. And in addition to that car still excessively burns oil.
Dealer did another oil consumption test October 2021 and oil consumption was 0.1 away from failure so the didn’t do anything to fix oil burn.
I wish I knew this GL350 will be such a hot mess in terms of emissions and oil consumption I think it’s time for me to get represented by an attorney.
I brought my GL350 back 06/21 for excessive oil burn as it failed oil consumption test. dealer replaced the turbo, and tech that replaced the turbo creates other issues because I noticed a strong smell of burning oil or diesel coming from the car when I picked it up it ended up a leaking fuel injector. And in addition to that car still excessively burns oil.
Dealer did another oil consumption test October 2021 and oil consumption was 0.1 away from failure so the didn’t do anything to fix oil burn.
I wish I knew this GL350 will be such a hot mess in terms of emissions and oil consumption I think it’s time for me to get represented by an attorney.
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GL350
Tbh im getting the AEM driving my 40k miles and listing it for sale with a warranty. I don't see things getting better with the emissions and eventually DPF failure again. Rip Mb Diesels
unless i find a 04 e320 cdi
unless i find a 04 e320 cdi
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GL350
I call this a smart move, it’s what I should have done right after I did the AEM. MB should be sued, we should all get gasoline replacements to our diesels.
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R350
Oil cooler leak
And want to charge 2.5 hrs labor for it.
How many folks get the same call from dealer during AEM?
Only 2 possibility here: oil cooler gasket is easy to leak, or dealer want earn some profit.
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E250 4M
May be sold out there now.
https://www.google.com/aclk?sa=l&ai=...ww8Igws&adurl=
Last edited by Mawk1; Feb 1, 2022 at 09:46 PM.
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Sprinter is Mercedes, yet I need separate license for it. Additionally the 5 years old models usually are still not included.
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GL350
Update on my EMC5: Gl350 12'
1. Dealer calls a few days ago after 20 days in the shop asking if I have spear key
2. Dealer called today saying hey Your EIC is bad we cant start the car. I'm like hey I brought you in a working car with a working ignition. He claims the ECU upgrade can fry the ignition. Wanted me to pay 1250. I loled and said ill be calling mbusa.
here we go!
1. Dealer calls a few days ago after 20 days in the shop asking if I have spear key
2. Dealer called today saying hey Your EIC is bad we cant start the car. I'm like hey I brought you in a working car with a working ignition. He claims the ECU upgrade can fry the ignition. Wanted me to pay 1250. I loled and said ill be calling mbusa.
here we go!
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2009 GL 320
Sorry to hear about your troubles and hope the dealer or MBUSA takes responsibility. I dropped my 09 GL320 off on the 26th and talked to them on Tuesday, still haven't touched it and waiting for parts. Have a loaner though so thankful for that.
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R350
The AEM almost changed the entire emmision system. If it is done in MB factory, maybe half dozen technicians get involved, and each one of them have months of training.
So in short, the assembly quality is highly doubtful. If you count in the MB historical reliability on newly designs, this AEM will go wrong sooner or later.
That is why I opt out from the bigger class, and joined a smaller class.
My class is graduating now. The money part can cover the inflation factor for at least a decade.
And I hope if something goes wrong, I can get attention from my attorney at the low teacher to student ratio class.
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E250 4M
The purchase price of the scanner covers ONE MANUFACTURER indefinitely. If you want to use the scanner with additional makes, you will need to pay about $20 for each of those manufacturers and they MUST BE RENEWED each year. So, my advice would be to buy an additional scanner(s) for the other make(s) you have in your garage because down the road, a $49 one time purchase will work out to be much less over time than $20/year per additional make, if you plan to keep your non-MB car(s) for more than a couple years.
So, basically, get an HT200/AP200 for every make of car you own that you plan on keeping for more than two years.
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Isn't that because it's 6 volts?
Walmart currently has this for $52.95.
I thought it was for one year, renewable every year for $19.95, same price as adding another make.
Regardless, both of the cars I want to cover are Benzes.
[edit] Apparently, there is a MaxiAP AP200, then there is the AP200C/H/M series. The AP200M is the most powerful of the three and gives you a free year for one manufacturer. Not sure if the AP200 has the same range of functionality. There is no mention of renewing the service, so I assume it's free for life.
Walmart currently has this for $52.95.
The purchase price of the scanner covers ONE MANUFACTURER indefinitely.
Regardless, both of the cars I want to cover are Benzes.
[edit] Apparently, there is a MaxiAP AP200, then there is the AP200C/H/M series. The AP200M is the most powerful of the three and gives you a free year for one manufacturer. Not sure if the AP200 has the same range of functionality. There is no mention of renewing the service, so I assume it's free for life.
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2009 GL320 Bluetec
@lancemurdock , can you give us an update on how the AEM went? I am taking mine in this coming week.
By the way, my dealer wants $549 to do the oil cooler leak without an oil change.
How much time and parts is it really once they're in there for the AEM? I'd much rather pay $300 than $500.
By the way, my dealer wants $549 to do the oil cooler leak without an oil change.
How much time and parts is it really once they're in there for the AEM? I'd much rather pay $300 than $500.
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R350
@lancemurdock , can you give us an update on how the AEM went? I am taking mine in this coming week.
By the way, my dealer wants $549 to do the oil cooler leak without an oil change.
How much time and parts is it really once they're in there for the AEM? I'd much rather pay $300 than $500.
By the way, my dealer wants $549 to do the oil cooler leak without an oil change.
How much time and parts is it really once they're in there for the AEM? I'd much rather pay $300 than $500.
I asked them: you can't do aem and waiting for parts, then how do you know it is leaking???
That guy paused for 10 seconds, then whispered: of course we see oil leaks!
My second question: is it actually 0.5 hr job to replace a gasket?
He said: yes
My next question: why you charge 2.5 hrs?
He said: I can't change it!
So in short, sounds like a scam to me. But hope no worry about this most expensive repair in the future. ( I spent $2700 4 years ago to repair the same problem)
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Stuck between some sunk cost fallacy where trading it in is a huge loss or taking a big loss to do all the upcoming major maintenance. Starting to realize the mpg savings of this diesel compared to something like an lx570 doesn't outweigh the maintenance cost. Feels a lot more fragile than the legendary mb diesels of the past...
