MB bluetec lawsuit in USA




I think from legal point of view they should refuse AEM and deny the warranty as the result, but what's done is done.
Did you make the remote start working after AEM ?
my wife noticed the sunroof is not closing
smoothly after getting the car back. It closes in small increments. Called my service advisor and have an appointment to drop it off tomorrow.




in regards to the sunroof nonsense, the point I was trying to make was that I didn’t have an issue before dropping off the car for the aem update. It might be a coincidence or not but the dealership said to bring it back and they’ll fix it no charge.
And lastly maybe someone has a timeframe on payments going out, why would it hurt to ask




in regards to the sunroof nonsense, the point I was trying to make was that I didn’t have an issue before dropping off the car for the aem update. It might be a coincidence or not but the dealership said to bring it back and they’ll fix it no charge.
And lastly maybe someone has a timeframe on payments going out, why would it hurt to ask




my wife noticed the sunroof is not closing
smoothly after getting the car back. It closes in small increments. Called my service advisor and have an appointment to drop it off tomorrow.
Read the manual. But dealer should have it check.
It is always good idea to recheck the job.
Professional ethics in USA are vanishing. On 1 of my Sprinters the new NOx was just finger-tight when the module was hanging on loose screws.
Other Sprinter had SCR pipe replaced and new sensor wires were rubbing against sharp edge of heat shield.
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Read the manual. But dealer should have it check.
It is always good idea to recheck the job.
Professional ethics in USA are vanishing. On 1 of my Sprinters the new NOx was just finger-tight when the module was hanging on loose screws.
Other Sprinter had SCR pipe replaced and new sensor wires were rubbing against sharp edge of heat shield.




Remember VW ECU explicitly turn on/off their emissions system based on whether it was being tested on 2 or 4 wheel rolling road/dyno. While MB's issue is they turned off the emissions systems when vehicles were being driven in colder temperature, but the emissions system were working in warmer/normal operating temperature. What bother's me the most is EGR and other gasoline vehicle emissions systems are also turned off in colder temperature and yet we don't see EPA or CARB bouncing all over that!!! Which is why I think this entire issue is a political issue rather than an actual "we need to bring all vehicles into compliance", if they were after actual compliance, they would be after all other petro/gasoline vehicles as well which they are not. It's purely political.




My Bluteces pass annual NV smog tests with 0 recorded particles. Even the 1 with DPF delete.
It would be interesting to find what separate claims can bring. Sounds like 3-4 years process ahead?
My Bluteces pass annual NV smog tests with 0 recorded particles. Even the 1 with DPF delete.
It would be interesting to find what separate claims can bring. Sounds like 3-4 years process ahead?
The only danger is to get zero dollar for compensation.
The attorneys for the opt out has done it for vw cases before, so they know the risks better than me. They are confident to be profitable again in this case.
The only danger is to get zero dollar for compensation.
The attorneys for the opt out has done it for vw cases before, so they know the risks better than me. They are confident to be profitable again in this case.




The $3500 settlement can buy lot of good stuff today, even we see 20% + price increase in just last year.
What it will buy in 4 years?
Will potential $6000 in 4 years have higher value than $3500 today?
I just want attorneys on my side if the AEM thing causes major issue.
BTW, I heard many owners did not opt out, neither plan to do AEM. They think the $3500 is not enough for them to risk their car through the AEM thing.




I just want attorneys on my side if the AEM thing causes major issue.
BTW, I heard many owners did not opt out, neither plan to do AEM. They think the $3500 is not enough for them to risk their car through the AEM thing.




My guess is that the opt-out clients, especially those represented by a big firm like Stern, will be dealt with similar to a class-action suit, i.e. collectively rather than individually. This will save both plaintiff and defendant attorneys many, many hours and court-related expenses. Neither is looking to take each case to court. It's simply not cost-effective given the relatively small amount of damages in these cases. MB and Bosch will deal with Stern and try to settle with as many of Stern's clients as possible, out of court, and in one fell swoop. What they will offer is the question, because there are significant differences between this BlueTec case and the other manufacturers' cases. I think they're going to stand their ground quite a bit more than the other defendants did, especially since the AEM seems largely to be working properly, at least to this point.
Personally, I'm not necessarily looking for a buy-back (I love my car) or a monetary settlement, but rather a lifetime warranty for the exhaust and related systems of the car (as defined and listed in the settlement), for as long as I own it. Whether any counsel I might retain will proceed with that or not is the question. Hard to monetize a warranty and figure your 40% cut. I'm seriously considering proceeding self-represented and thus make it easier for MB and Bosch to settle with me. I don't want anything to do with the legwork that it would take to collect and present evidence, like Stern has the resources to do, in an actual courtroom proceeding, or even a backroom negotiation. My offer will be simple: You can make me go away without a buy-back, or any monetary award or even any legal fees/expenses for counsel on either side. Interested? I think they will be.
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My guess is that the opt-out clients, especially those represented by a big firm like Stern, will be dealt with similar to a class-action suit, rather than individually. This will save both plaintiff and defendant attorneys a lot of time. Neither is looking to take each case to court. It's simply not cost-effective given the amount of damages in these cases. MB and Bosch will deal with Stern and try to settle with as many of Stern's clients as possible out of court in one fell swoop. What they will offer is the question, because there are significant differences between the BlueTec case and the other manufacturers. I think they're going to stand their ground a bit more than the other defendants did, especially since the AEM seems to be working properly to this point.
Personally, I'm not necessarily looking for a monetary settlement, but rather a life-time warranty for the exhaust system of the car, for as long as I own it. Whether any counsel I might retain will proceed with that or not is the question. Hard to monetize a warranty and take your 40% cut...


