Possible Modifications to 1991 300ce?
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My dad is test-driving the car for a week now. He says that it has strong pull above around 1.8k RPM, but that it has nearly no power at all until it reaches there. He also mentioned that it won't kick down under throttle unless the kickdown switch is hit.
AC is working, and nearly everything else has been taken care of so far (other than cosmetics and suspension bits).
Does anyone have any idea why the car would be dead that low in the RPM range but pull strong above that? I know the peak power comes in pretty late, but still, it should have SOME pull that low, right?
AC is working, and nearly everything else has been taken care of so far (other than cosmetics and suspension bits).
Does anyone have any idea why the car would be dead that low in the RPM range but pull strong above that? I know the peak power comes in pretty late, but still, it should have SOME pull that low, right?
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If your dad drives a V8, I think your car is normal. :P
I've mentioned this before, but even my car feels similar. Not NO pull, just not nearly as much as slightly later in the rev range.
As for the kickdown switch issue, is the car in E or S? In E, that's normal behavior!
I've mentioned this before, but even my car feels similar. Not NO pull, just not nearly as much as slightly later in the rev range.
As for the kickdown switch issue, is the car in E or S? In E, that's normal behavior!
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If your dad drives a V8, I think your car is normal. :P
I've mentioned this before, but even my car feels similar. Not NO pull, just not nearly as much as slightly later in the rev range.
As for the kickdown switch issue, is the car in E or S? In E, that's normal behavior!
I've mentioned this before, but even my car feels similar. Not NO pull, just not nearly as much as slightly later in the rev range.
As for the kickdown switch issue, is the car in E or S? In E, that's normal behavior!
You may have answered, but typically, what kind of 0-60mph/0-100kph numbers are you seeing in your car? I'm trying to get my dad to test that now so I can see if its improved or not at all empirically.
E or S? My shifter is simple: P - R - N - D - 4 - 3 - 2
I'm thinking that as well. I messed with it a while ago when I put in a new Throttle Position Switch and a new Switchover switch (the thing with the little caster wheels on it behind the throttle arm).
Perhaps after having all these items fixed the adjustments I made prior are putting things out of spec?
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I'll take a video of a 0-100 sprint in the car, but I have no accurate way to time it. I'll use a video program and measure from start to finish, I guess..
That little thing on the lower left of the shifter... You telling me you don't have that?
That little thing on the lower left of the shifter... You telling me you don't have that?
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Sweet! I don't need precise down to the millisecond, just a general ball-park video will give me an idea of whats realistic to expect from these cars 20+ years after leaving the assembly line.
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The 3.0 M103 when it was running 110% and strong was getting 9 sec (but had a shorter diff) so i think your M104 with the diff you have should make a similar acceleration time.
Didnt time the 3.4 amg yet as its not yet ready, waiting to my next vacation to go rebuild the fuel distributor with the gasket i showed you, and install the eha, try to pull some timing and we will see
Didnt time the 3.4 amg yet as its not yet ready, waiting to my next vacation to go rebuild the fuel distributor with the gasket i showed you, and install the eha, try to pull some timing and we will see
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Ah okay, good to get something in the ballpark.
The mech installed the new fuel distributor gasket you showed me
I also have a new EHA in there as well. He said injectors were fine, but somehow I'm doubtful.
The mech installed the new fuel distributor gasket you showed me
I also have a new EHA in there as well. He said injectors were fine, but somehow I'm doubtful.
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The E/S switch on the shifter was only used on Euro models, or rather, was never installed on any USA-spec cars. It's an Economy/Sport switch which acts as normal in E mode, but in S mode it tightens the Bowden cable a little to provide a higher part-throttle upshift RPM. It has no effect on WOT upshifts. You can retrofit the entire setup but some of the parts are not orderable in USA (has to come from an overseas vendor), and the Bowden cable is different (and expensive).
If there is really no power off-idle, it sounds to me like low fuel delivery off idle; generally cured by adjusting the EHA. But I wouldn't expect to need that with a new EHA. However, I'm not that familiar with CIS injection - sorry. You'll need some 0-60 stopwatch data to figure out if you have a problem or not.
If there is really no power off-idle, it sounds to me like low fuel delivery off idle; generally cured by adjusting the EHA. But I wouldn't expect to need that with a new EHA. However, I'm not that familiar with CIS injection - sorry. You'll need some 0-60 stopwatch data to figure out if you have a problem or not.
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The E/S switch on the shifter was only used on Euro models, or rather, was never installed on any USA-spec cars. It's an Economy/Sport switch which acts as normal in E mode, but in S mode it tightens the Bowden cable a little to provide a higher part-throttle upshift RPM. It has no effect on WOT upshifts. You can retrofit the entire setup but some of the parts are not orderable in USA (has to come from an overseas vendor), and the Bowden cable is different (and expensive).
If there is really no power off-idle, it sounds to me like low fuel delivery off idle; generally cured by adjusting the EHA. But I wouldn't expect to need that with a new EHA. However, I'm not that familiar with CIS injection - sorry. You'll need some 0-60 stopwatch data to figure out if you have a problem or not.
If there is really no power off-idle, it sounds to me like low fuel delivery off idle; generally cured by adjusting the EHA. But I wouldn't expect to need that with a new EHA. However, I'm not that familiar with CIS injection - sorry. You'll need some 0-60 stopwatch data to figure out if you have a problem or not.
Haha, thats alright. I weigh about 245 so I figure it'll about even out since Euro cars are lighter :P
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1. Different drill holes.
2. M103 tune is totally off for running an M104 head.
3. Threadjacker. :P
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How wide is the 300ce trunk?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/94-ME...item5ae233ceaa
I kinda want this, but I'm concerned it'll be too wide to mount properly on the 300ce trunklid.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/94-ME...item5ae233ceaa
I kinda want this, but I'm concerned it'll be too wide to mount properly on the 300ce trunklid.
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It appears to be similar to the AMG design used with the early GEN I kits which was pre-ducktail.
Seller indicates that it is for a W124 but also keep in mind that the coupe trunk has a slightly different contour then the sedan.
The width might be correct but it might need trimming to mount flat to the coupe trunk lid.
Ed A.
It appears to be similar to the AMG design used with the early GEN I kits which was pre-ducktail.
Seller indicates that it is for a W124 but also keep in mind that the coupe trunk has a slightly different contour then the sedan.
The width might be correct but it might need trimming to mount flat to the coupe trunk lid.
Ed A.
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Brett
It appears to be similar to the AMG design used with the early GEN I kits which was pre-ducktail.
Seller indicates that it is for a W124 but also keep in mind that the coupe trunk has a slightly different contour then the sedan.
The width might be correct but it might need trimming to mount flat to the coupe trunk lid.
Ed A.
It appears to be similar to the AMG design used with the early GEN I kits which was pre-ducktail.
Seller indicates that it is for a W124 but also keep in mind that the coupe trunk has a slightly different contour then the sedan.
The width might be correct but it might need trimming to mount flat to the coupe trunk lid.
Ed A.
My bodyshop guy should be able to handle pretty much anything to get it mounted properly, he did manage to make my WRX STI Vortex Generator fit pretty damned perfectly without much issue
I figure that while he has the car, it might not be the worst thing in the world to get this cosmetic mod done. Silly yes, but I think it'll complement the slight drop and new rotors nicely.
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Here are some supposedly 3000k Amber H1 bulbs I purchased for use in my c280 Sport.
Let me know if you guys think they come close to being yellow. For color reference, they're installed in the same housing as Sylvania Silverstars.
Let me know if you guys think they come close to being yellow. For color reference, they're installed in the same housing as Sylvania Silverstars.
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Here's another guy who dropped a C36 motor into a W124...
http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w124...cu-tuning.html
http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w124...cu-tuning.html
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Nice, thanks Dave.
Maybe if I ever get Bucky back I'll work on that :P
I think my housemate may be getting a C32 though, so at least someone in the driveway will have a supercharger and an engine displacement above 1.8L (disregarding the c280 Sport)
Maybe if I ever get Bucky back I'll work on that :P
I think my housemate may be getting a C32 though, so at least someone in the driveway will have a supercharger and an engine displacement above 1.8L (disregarding the c280 Sport)
