Possible Modifications to 1991 300ce?
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Nevermind, housemate got a 2007 CLS63, black on black, P2 package + AMG Development package.
I have to quite humbly say that he has the most amazing car in the driveway by far.
I have to quite humbly say that he has the most amazing car in the driveway by far.
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However, I think El Bucko has had quite the recovery after 6 or so months in surgery. Not quite done yet, but here is my latest progress report
All comments, criticisms, etc welcome. I still have plans, this is but one step closer to realizing my final vision for Bucky.
Also, the H&R Sports + Koni Yellows (4/5 firmness) with the upgraded swaybars has yielded a carfeel like nothing else. This car is now. It still feels like the 3600lb beast it is (especially after becoming used to the nimble feel of the c280 Sport) but it is direct, with almost no roll & lean, and just feels glued to the road.
All comments, criticisms, etc welcome. I still have plans, this is but one step closer to realizing my final vision for Bucky.
Also, the H&R Sports + Koni Yellows (4/5 firmness) with the upgraded swaybars has yielded a carfeel like nothing else. This car is now. It still feels like the 3600lb beast it is (especially after becoming used to the nimble feel of the c280 Sport) but it is direct, with almost no roll & lean, and just feels glued to the road.
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However, I think El Bucko has had quite the recovery after 6 or so months in surgery. Not quite done yet, but here is my latest progress report
All comments, criticisms, etc welcome. I still have plans, this is but one step closer to realizing my final vision for Bucky.
Also, the H&R Sports + Koni Yellows (4/5 firmness) with the upgraded swaybars has yielded a carfeel like nothing else. This car is now. It still feels like the 3600lb beast it is (especially after becoming used to the nimble feel of the c280 Sport) but it is direct, with almost no roll & lean, and just feels glued to the road.
All comments, criticisms, etc welcome. I still have plans, this is but one step closer to realizing my final vision for Bucky.
Also, the H&R Sports + Koni Yellows (4/5 firmness) with the upgraded swaybars has yielded a carfeel like nothing else. This car is now. It still feels like the 3600lb beast it is (especially after becoming used to the nimble feel of the c280 Sport) but it is direct, with almost no roll & lean, and just feels glued to the road.
BUCKY really looking the goods mate ! (that Oz slang for looking fantastic)
Love what you've done - looks like he is fresh off the car lot !
Interesting detail on the qwheels how/what did you do to them.
They appear bronze/gold centre on silver rims.
Anyway that's is no doubt a beautiful car my friend !
EDIT : OH PS I'll shoot you of you put roof racks on it !
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Because the whistles got a little woo woooo.
Thanks man! It needs much more attention, IE AMG kit and ducktail but that is much later down the road :P Thanks, Dmitry did an amazing job rehabing the paint and fixing my rust and various dings and other imperfections.
My idea was to simply paint the whole wheel the color my hematite trim faded to from Black/Silver to this very sublime bronze. He disagreed, then called my Dad on Saturday simply saying "Don't worry, I've got it under control. Pick it up tomorrow." He decided to do the bronze over a polished lip look and I think its fantastic. I'll be changing out the center caps for the MB Laurel style caps as I think the blue will offset the bronze quite nicely. That is actually my father's idea, I can't take credit for it
You can shoot me after I find a set, I still need some hauling capacity with this car, we got rid of all our SUVs so its either roof racks or a trailer hitch or both. Bucky will need to branch out into CUV territory (Coupe Utility Vehicle)
BUCKY really looking the goods mate ! (that Oz slang for looking fantastic)
Love what you've done - looks like he is fresh off the car lot !
Interesting detail on the qwheels how/what did you do to them.
They appear bronze/gold centre on silver rims.
Anyway that's is no doubt a beautiful car my friend !
Love what you've done - looks like he is fresh off the car lot !
Interesting detail on the qwheels how/what did you do to them.
They appear bronze/gold centre on silver rims.
Anyway that's is no doubt a beautiful car my friend !
My idea was to simply paint the whole wheel the color my hematite trim faded to from Black/Silver to this very sublime bronze. He disagreed, then called my Dad on Saturday simply saying "Don't worry, I've got it under control. Pick it up tomorrow." He decided to do the bronze over a polished lip look and I think its fantastic. I'll be changing out the center caps for the MB Laurel style caps as I think the blue will offset the bronze quite nicely. That is actually my father's idea, I can't take credit for it
You can shoot me after I find a set, I still need some hauling capacity with this car, we got rid of all our SUVs so its either roof racks or a trailer hitch or both. Bucky will need to branch out into CUV territory (Coupe Utility Vehicle)
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Wow, project appears quite successful, the body looks sharp, the wheels look...really incredible. A great idea that I'd avoid for the gamble. Dmitri is either lucky or good.
I'd consider adding a bump to front and reducing a bit in rear, no?
It is always an experience to "refresh" the suspension on such an older car, the ride comes back or in your case, the ride is better than Bucky offered when new.
I still might delete headlight washer arms, and body match the grill too.
Are you color matched? Hard to tell from pics, I think not. On my 92 sportline, I painted the black bumper strip to match the lower cladding, it looked more modern I thought.
Every time I do a significant upgrade, I tend to want to enjoy it more than do more stuff..but you asked.
I'd consider adding a bump to front and reducing a bit in rear, no?
It is always an experience to "refresh" the suspension on such an older car, the ride comes back or in your case, the ride is better than Bucky offered when new.
I still might delete headlight washer arms, and body match the grill too.
Are you color matched? Hard to tell from pics, I think not. On my 92 sportline, I painted the black bumper strip to match the lower cladding, it looked more modern I thought.
Every time I do a significant upgrade, I tend to want to enjoy it more than do more stuff..but you asked.
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I still might delete headlight washer arms, and body match the grill too.
Are you color matched? Hard to tell from pics, I think not. On my 92 sportline, I painted the black bumper strip to match the lower cladding, it looked more modern I thought.
Every time I do a significant upgrade, I tend to want to enjoy it more than do more stuff..but you asked.
Are you color matched? Hard to tell from pics, I think not. On my 92 sportline, I painted the black bumper strip to match the lower cladding, it looked more modern I thought.
Every time I do a significant upgrade, I tend to want to enjoy it more than do more stuff..but you asked.
And Saijin, spoiler, honestly. you have a classy colour.
I think a little bib spoiler on the trunk rather than something large.
Similar to the Zender bib I want to put on mine - just enough to stand out, not enough to insult the overall shape !
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I think a little bib spoiler on the trunk rather than something large.
Similar to the Zender bib I want to put on mine - just enough to stand out, not enough to insult the overall shape !
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Based on the photos, I'd go up 2 bumps in the front, and see if that even does anything. It's possible the car is sitting on the strut shaft stop buffers, and if so, thicker spring pads may not change anything. This would also be why it feels glued to the road. The rake will also skew the weight balance even more to the front, and these cars are already front-heavy.
Have you measured the ride height, front & rear, from wheel center to bottom of the fender lip? When you do this, note the amount of fuel in the tank, as the rear ride height will vary about 0.5" between full tank & empty tank. Any idea what pads were on the car stock?
Looks sharp though! Any news on the engine performance issues? Get your 0-60 down to factory specs yet?
Have you measured the ride height, front & rear, from wheel center to bottom of the fender lip? When you do this, note the amount of fuel in the tank, as the rear ride height will vary about 0.5" between full tank & empty tank. Any idea what pads were on the car stock?
Looks sharp though! Any news on the engine performance issues? Get your 0-60 down to factory specs yet?
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Ducktail rocks! no other thing can match a ducktail, its even a lot better in person than in pictures!
Good to see bucky back!
now tell us whats up with the performance after the engine refresh and you were experiencing a lack of power low down...what went with that?
Good to see bucky back!
now tell us whats up with the performance after the engine refresh and you were experiencing a lack of power low down...what went with that?
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Based on the photos, I'd go up 2 bumps in the front, and see if that even does anything. It's possible the car is sitting on the strut shaft stop buffers, and if so, thicker spring pads may not change anything. This would also be why it feels glued to the road. The rake will also skew the weight balance even more to the front, and these cars are already front-heavy.
Thanks man Yeah, I do like the ducktail, especially if I can keep my badging No firm numbers for engine performance, buttmeter says still slow as ****.
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Looks good but I agree with Dave. You are sitting or close to sitting on the bump stops on the shocks. If you want to be close to that low you will need to put the 129 upper shock mounts on.
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Thanks man. What do you mean by the r129 uppers? Is that in conjunction with larger spring perch pads, or is that by its self?
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looks like both sheets are after springs installed, since no change in camber front and rear
should handle well but going to be hard on tire tread life till you get the negative camber values down on both ends
here are amg specs on a 300e which should be pretty close to the coupe
Front suspension
-camber -0 degree 45'
-caster 10 degrees 10' (straight ahead position)
-toe-in 0 degree 20'
Rear Suspension
-camber -1 degree
-toe-in is 0 degree 20'
these came from this link
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...300ce-amg.html
should handle well but going to be hard on tire tread life till you get the negative camber values down on both ends
here are amg specs on a 300e which should be pretty close to the coupe
Front suspension
-camber -0 degree 45'
-caster 10 degrees 10' (straight ahead position)
-toe-in 0 degree 20'
Rear Suspension
-camber -1 degree
-toe-in is 0 degree 20'
these came from this link
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...300ce-amg.html
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car looks great
always been on the fence with the side pinstripes
with the stripes, they create a panel look on the side, braking up the styling
without the stripes, they let the styling sweep to the roof as i think was the intention, much cleaner
btw ~~~ i believe all the pinstriping was aftermarket and not factory applied, just another dealer money maker
always been on the fence with the side pinstripes
with the stripes, they create a panel look on the side, braking up the styling
without the stripes, they let the styling sweep to the roof as i think was the intention, much cleaner
btw ~~~ i believe all the pinstriping was aftermarket and not factory applied, just another dealer money maker
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looks like both sheets are after springs installed, since no change in camber front and rear
should handle well but going to be hard on tire tread life till you get the negative camber values down on both ends
here are amg specs on a 300e which should be pretty close to the coupe
Front suspension
-camber -0 degree 45'
-caster 10 degrees 10' (straight ahead position)
-toe-in 0 degree 20'
Rear Suspension
-camber -1 degree
-toe-in is 0 degree 20'
these came from this link
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...300ce-amg.html
should handle well but going to be hard on tire tread life till you get the negative camber values down on both ends
here are amg specs on a 300e which should be pretty close to the coupe
Front suspension
-camber -0 degree 45'
-caster 10 degrees 10' (straight ahead position)
-toe-in 0 degree 20'
Rear Suspension
-camber -1 degree
-toe-in is 0 degree 20'
these came from this link
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...300ce-amg.html
car looks great
always been on the fence with the side pinstripes
with the stripes, they create a panel look on the side, braking up the styling
without the stripes, they let the styling sweep to the roof as i think was the intention, much cleaner
btw ~~~ i believe all the pinstriping was aftermarket and not factory applied, just another dealer money maker
always been on the fence with the side pinstripes
with the stripes, they create a panel look on the side, braking up the styling
without the stripes, they let the styling sweep to the roof as i think was the intention, much cleaner
btw ~~~ i believe all the pinstriping was aftermarket and not factory applied, just another dealer money maker
I don't mind the pinstripes, they've been on the car since I've first seen it so I've grown rather accustomed to them. But I see what you're saying about it splitting the side profile up.
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If you're interested in the shortened rear LCA's for camber correction, there's a group buy in the works at 500Eboard.com for the RDM TEK units (which are out of production, but the mfr will build 10 pairs at a time on special order). These will reduce rear camber approx 1.25°, so if you are a -2.25° now, it would change to approx -1.00°. Also keep in mind that rear camber is a function of ride height, so if you change the spring pads, the camber will change too... and this will also require the rear toe to be adjusted.
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I think I have no choice but to get in on that Dave. Would you mind PMing me the relevant info? I hope they're not too expensive, I'm already tapped out from having the car rebuilt :C
Do you have any further info about what whipplem104 said above?
Thanks!
Do you have any further info about what whipplem104 said above?
Thanks!
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Email sent about the rear camber correction kits - let me know if you didn't receive it.
I am not familiar with the R129 strut mount modification... but would like to know more about it. Note that if the front wheel is allowed to travel further upward, you may have rubbing issues between the tire and the inner fender liner or sheet metal. The R129 was originally designed for a lower ride height & wider wheels, but the W124 was not.
Got measurements on your ride height yet, btw? And have you checked to see if the front end is sitting on the stops as shown here? (It's hard to check this, as the car can't be jacked up to check... need a flashlight & something to lift the dust boot with so you can see what's going on in there.)
I am not familiar with the R129 strut mount modification... but would like to know more about it. Note that if the front wheel is allowed to travel further upward, you may have rubbing issues between the tire and the inner fender liner or sheet metal. The R129 was originally designed for a lower ride height & wider wheels, but the W124 was not.
Got measurements on your ride height yet, btw? And have you checked to see if the front end is sitting on the stops as shown here? (It's hard to check this, as the car can't be jacked up to check... need a flashlight & something to lift the dust boot with so you can see what's going on in there.)
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Email sent about the rear camber correction kits - let me know if you didn't receive it.
I am not familiar with the R129 strut mount modification... but would like to know more about it. Note that if the front wheel is allowed to travel further upward, you may have rubbing issues between the tire and the inner fender liner or sheet metal. The R129 was originally designed for a lower ride height & wider wheels, but the W124 was not.
Got measurements on your ride height yet, btw? And have you checked to see if the front end is sitting on the stops as shown here? (It's hard to check this, as the car can't be jacked up to check... need a flashlight & something to lift the dust boot with so you can see what's going on in there.)
I am not familiar with the R129 strut mount modification... but would like to know more about it. Note that if the front wheel is allowed to travel further upward, you may have rubbing issues between the tire and the inner fender liner or sheet metal. The R129 was originally designed for a lower ride height & wider wheels, but the W124 was not.
Got measurements on your ride height yet, btw? And have you checked to see if the front end is sitting on the stops as shown here? (It's hard to check this, as the car can't be jacked up to check... need a flashlight & something to lift the dust boot with so you can see what's going on in there.)
I'll check rideheight and the stops soon.
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The R129 front strut mounts won't change camber at all, only suspension travel limits. If you want more camber adjustment up front, you'll have to try and score one of the RDM TEK adjustable strut mounts (were $499/pair when available new), but those are gone and not likely to ever be produced again. Your front camber didn't look bad, btw... I'd leave that alone since you autocross, and a tad more negative won't hurt.
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The R129 front strut mounts won't change camber at all, only suspension travel limits. If you want more camber adjustment up front, you'll have to try and score one of the RDM TEK adjustable strut mounts (were $499/pair when available new), but those are gone and not likely to ever be produced again. Your front camber didn't look bad, btw... I'd leave that alone since you autocross, and a tad more negative won't hurt.
Rear might be an issue, though visually (I know it means nothing visually) the c280 Sport looks to be as negative in the rear as the 300ce, as does the 500e.
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I agree with you on colour matching the grille, keep it black for contrast.
I'd lose the stripes though, and raise the front just a little, leaving the rear as is.
Your car is looking like the dogs danglies.....
I'd lose the stripes though, and raise the front just a little, leaving the rear as is.
Your car is looking like the dogs danglies.....