childofjuly

i wonder what factory part is on that e420 amg to push the horses to 312? https://mbworld.org/forums/mercedes-vehicles/253172-fs-my-e400-amg-s3.html

GEDaggett

Probably just some exhuast items deleted and a little better asparation (maybe cam stuff). For years Japan has had much lighter emissions and dmv rules allowing cars to use different parts aimed more at performance. The Japanese version of the Subie STi Had about 25 hp more than the US for a couple of years. That'spart of the apeal of a euro/asian version of alot of cars.

POS

If AMG wanted to tweak an engine without going crazy, they would polish and port the heads, add a hotter cam, and redo the exhaust.

childofjuly

My e420 is a 4196 cm3 putting out 275 HP that is .0655 hp/cm3. as to a 5.0 m119 that is 4973 cm3 pushing 326 HP (in early models) which is the same right at .0655 hp/cm3.. that 400e amg had 312 HP which is at .075 and change HP/cm3, given the same treatment to the 500e it would come out to be 373 HP! that cant be right! because the late 500es only had 315 HP...also the gains from a port and polish job really wont show unless it has better intake and exhaust, and the intake appears to be stock to me.. i need to find out what has been done to that 4.2!

rivcal4life

The intake manifolds look stock, but whos to say they didnt use different higher flowing filters? Regardless, a higher flow intake wouldnt make much difference to a stock engine. My bets are that they did do engine work. P&P would be standard. Possibly modified compression.

Or we could have a case of the everpossible exaggerating owner.

The only way to know for sure: BUY IT! haha and have that puppy shipped to the states.

childofjuly

.. yeah kind of like a mail order wife! except this one wont cook or clean!

CDP

You can't see the intake manifolds...

childofjuly

OK... check this out.. found 2 more of them for sale in japan..

http://n-benz.ruhenheim.com/details.php/525/

and this one..

http://page9.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/k52568856

both said 312 HP but on the second link.. in one of the pictures it had a AMG tag.. with 230kW/5750 RPM and 425Nm/4000 RPM.. i guess the owner wasn't BSing.. damn, that's 37 more HP than my car! P & P wont do much if the engine is not breathing any better.. and even if it was its got to have hotter cam to even get the full benefit of head work.. it just don't make sense because if you are going to do all that why didn't they just throw the 5.0 crank in it or better yet just buy a 500e! i think there is still a lot of hidden power in the m119..

rivcal4life

I know I know. "Manifolds" wasnt the word I should have used. I should have said tubes so people like you wouldnt be mean about it

cap'n jasper

Spec..

VIN WDB1240341C179620
Model E420
Chassis 1240341C179620
Engine 119975 12 020407
Transmission 722366 04 045610
Order 0 4 839 99446
Approx. year 1994
Dealer Japan (839)
Interior leather black / anthracite (271)
Paint
199 metallic blue-black (с 01.01.1983)
Options
240 outside temperature indicator (с 01.03.1982)

244 sports seats, front (с 01.07.1986)

253 radio MB-Exquisit - Japan (с 01.07.1992)

260 elimination of model designation on rear lid (с 01.05.1968)

289 wooden/leather steering wheel (dia. 390 mm)
wood-/leather steering wheel (ш 390mm) and leather gearshift (с 01.02.1993)
multiple contour backrest for right rear single seat

341 additional lamp (с 01.09.1982)

412 electric sliding roof with tilting device (с 01.07.1983)

441 steering column, electrically adjustable, W202 manually adjustable (с 01.07.1984)

498 Japan version (с 01.07.1970)

543 sun visor with vanity mirror, illuminated, left and right (с 01.11.1978)

570 folding armrest front w202/210 stowage box front with armrest (с 01.04.1970)
front folding armrest w202 - housing at front with armrest

581 automatic climate control (с 01.01.1977)

593 heat-insulating glass, all-around, heated rear window pane (single-sheet safety glass), band filter
green heat-insulating glass all round, heated rear window, single pane safety glass - tinted strip (с 01.01.1972)

600 headlamp wiper/washer (с 01.08.1971)

615 lamp unit, asymmetrical l.h. traffic, and front and rear door courtesy lamps
like 610, and with type 107 bifocal bulbs
611 + 613 (с 01.11.1978)

805 Change of year of model, last figure shows new model year

814 active bass loudspeaker system (с 01.10.1989)

873 seat heater for left and right front seats (с 01.02.1984)

877 reading lamp in the rear (с 01.11.1963)

987 battery cut-off switch for vehicles to be shipped (с 01.02.1993)

cap'n jasper

What's the advantage over an E500?

childofjuly

none i can think about... except there is only probably a handful ... i just got this link from the UK sealer

http://www.geocities.jp/w124ridaz/page070.html