oil and coolant leak with PICS
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oil and coolant leak with PICS
Hi,
I have several questions about my problem.
1. I tried to bleed the cooling system so I opend the coolant cap, uncrew the bleed bolt on top of thermostat housing, and started the car.
When I started the car, it took several seconds to start the car and whole car shook really bad while doing it. Is this normal?
2. I found coolnat leak here. What is the name of the hose and what is the part number?
I also found oil leak under the car. I don't know what are these parts. Any advices?
This is right below the power steering pump
The top one is passenger side of oil pan.
I also noticed oil drips on the front swaybar.
While I was under the car, oil didn't drip or form after I wiped the area. I guess it's a slow leak, but I want to know about it.
Thank you.
I have several questions about my problem.
1. I tried to bleed the cooling system so I opend the coolant cap, uncrew the bleed bolt on top of thermostat housing, and started the car.
When I started the car, it took several seconds to start the car and whole car shook really bad while doing it. Is this normal?
2. I found coolnat leak here. What is the name of the hose and what is the part number?
I also found oil leak under the car. I don't know what are these parts. Any advices?
This is right below the power steering pump
The top one is passenger side of oil pan.
I also noticed oil drips on the front swaybar.
While I was under the car, oil didn't drip or form after I wiped the area. I guess it's a slow leak, but I want to know about it.
Thank you.
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On any old car an oil pan gasket has the chance of being a problem. Just gotta take care of them thats all.
Those lines that you are talking about are transmission cooler lines. I dont think those are leaking though. I think the oil is dripping down and decieving you into thinking that they are leaking.
Those lines that you are talking about are transmission cooler lines. I dont think those are leaking though. I think the oil is dripping down and decieving you into thinking that they are leaking.
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The first picture you posted of the back of the radiator is the return line from the radiator to your engine. If it is leaking, it is likely a broken inlet for the hose. The plastic on these becomes very brittle over the years, and WILL crack eventually. You can slow the process by making sure the clamp that holds the hose to the inlet is as close to the base as possible, and making sure to use distilled water to prevent rust corrosion.
But alas, you will need a new radiator in the not too distant future. I would say that if you have a local junkyard and you happen to see a good one, nab it and swap it in even if it's still holding up. Decent ones are not hard to come by, until you absolutely need it.
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Thank you so much for all the advices.
Rivcal4life, thank you for the detail information. I touched the hose and I could feel plastic thing inside of the hose.
So are you saying that I can't just replace the hose? I have to replace the whole radiator?
If I just replace the hose, do I have to drain the coolant? I just flushed coolant system...I hope I don't have to drain it again.
One more thing that I noticed...the coolant leak only happens when I open the coolant cap when engine is warm. When I opened it, the coolant level went up.
Any ideas?
Rivcal4life, thank you for the detail information. I touched the hose and I could feel plastic thing inside of the hose.
So are you saying that I can't just replace the hose? I have to replace the whole radiator?
If I just replace the hose, do I have to drain the coolant? I just flushed coolant system...I hope I don't have to drain it again.
One more thing that I noticed...the coolant leak only happens when I open the coolant cap when engine is warm. When I opened it, the coolant level went up.
Any ideas?
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Gravity always forces an oil leak down, trace it up to the highest point of the leak and inspect. Judging by pictures it may be higher, kinda hard to tell... My 2 cents
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I was checking where it's from, but I couldn't trace it....maybe next time, I will just stay under the car and watch it....
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It's not valve cover gasket because when I bought this car it was leaking like crazy. Oil all 6 spark plugs, wires, etc so I changed it 1 week ago and no leak around that area...
I was checking where it's from, but I couldn't trace it....maybe next time, I will just stay under the car and watch it....
I was checking where it's from, but I couldn't trace it....maybe next time, I will just stay under the car and watch it....
As for the first pic, you can just replace that hose. Maybe first just try pulling it off completely, cleaning it up and retightening it. If its cracked though, ditch it.
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First I would Wash Ur engine really well then look for leaks. Get simple green spray the engine really well then pressure wash it off let the simple green soak for 3 minutes. Leave engine running. Then find all leaks
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Thank you for your suggestion.
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I have been searching for this and I found a smiliar thread, and it was timing chain guide seal leaking. I hope it's not my case. I guess you are right ps2cho. m104 engine also has timing chain area oil leak problem. Do you guys check oil level and add oil when it goes low?
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Of course add oil! You do not want to run low on oil in ANY engine....its about the worst thing you can do. You'll start to get engine knock if you run it low on oil. If its leaking and you are losing a lot of oil, I'd make it your #1 priority to fix. Just make sure you are carrying a bottle of oil in your trunk at all times. Soon as that light comes on, you better throw in a quart.
Nah, on these engines just keep the air flap and spark plug's covered and don't spray anywhere near the battery or fuse box and you'll be fine. I recommend going to Walmart and buying their brand engine degreaser. You can get a can for $1.50 IIRC...its dirt cheap and works great. Just spray all over and let it sit for 10 minutes before hosing off.
Nah, on these engines just keep the air flap and spark plug's covered and don't spray anywhere near the battery or fuse box and you'll be fine. I recommend going to Walmart and buying their brand engine degreaser. You can get a can for $1.50 IIRC...its dirt cheap and works great. Just spray all over and let it sit for 10 minutes before hosing off.
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I have the same problem on my car....for the coolant leak you just need to buy new clamps for it...the oil leak is probably the front timing cover...i need to put a qt every 3k miles....
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It would be nice if it was just a clamp or the hose itself, but so far every leak with these radiators (and those of most other cars Ive owned) has proven to be broken mounting points for the houses. The plastic inlets and outlets get brittle and break on almost every car at some point.
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It would be nice if it was just a clamp or the hose itself, but so far every leak with these radiators (and those of most other cars Ive owned) has proven to be broken mounting points for the houses. The plastic inlets and outlets get brittle and break on almost every car at some point.
Thanks.
YNVDIZW124, I guess it is timing chain cover leak. I will check the oil level and see how much I need to add every oil change. I just have owned this car for 2 weeks and it's been sitting in my garage to be fixed. I heard that leaky timing cover seal needs to be fixed with HG, correct?
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You can't order just the inlets. At least not anywhere that I know of. If would be worth looking for though if the body of your radiator is still good.
If you look at the photo closely, you'll notice where the metal ends, and the plastic begins. The metal is clamped around the plastic reservoir every couple inches or so. I suppose if you find a decent plastic reservoir at the junkyard or online, you could bend back the metal tabs and swap it out with yours, but you may end it with a bigger leak than you have now, and will have ruined a potential replacement in the process.
If you look at the photo closely, you'll notice where the metal ends, and the plastic begins. The metal is clamped around the plastic reservoir every couple inches or so. I suppose if you find a decent plastic reservoir at the junkyard or online, you could bend back the metal tabs and swap it out with yours, but you may end it with a bigger leak than you have now, and will have ruined a potential replacement in the process.
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Thank you for the good info rivcal4life.
I still don't get the inlet thing. So if the plastic thing is broken, how can I fix it? There is no part to order, then...
I guess I have to take out the hose and see it myself. Am I going to loose lot of coolant by doing it?
The leak seems only happen when I open the coolant reservoir cap when the engine is warm or little hot. Usually nothing leaks there.....isn't it strange??
I still don't get the inlet thing. So if the plastic thing is broken, how can I fix it? There is no part to order, then...
I guess I have to take out the hose and see it myself. Am I going to loose lot of coolant by doing it?
The leak seems only happen when I open the coolant reservoir cap when the engine is warm or little hot. Usually nothing leaks there.....isn't it strange??
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( and i am sure that is not engine oil because it is very clear and the level is allright)
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Yes, your transmission cooler is in the radiator. Engine coolant cools the transmission fluid. Ck trans fluid level again to see if it has dropped. The only fix for this is a new radiator.
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I believe I may be having the same issue as you. I flushed my coolant system two days ago and noticed a lot of brown gunky material in there that had formed a gelatin like substance under the radiator cap. After flushing for about 10 minutes the water began running clear, but, when I'd wait about 2 minutes then I'd start to see some of this redish brown substance slowly trickle out the hose. At some point the brown color fluid became so insignificant I just said to hell with it and finished flushing and replenishing radiator fluid. I notice my transmission fluid is quite low actually. I'm planning to replace the transmission pan gasket, drain torque converter and trans, replenish, replace trans mount, and trans oil seal on Monday. Was thinking about trying to figure out what the deal with that brown gunk in my radiator reserve was then. Anyone have any ideas? At first I thought maybe a blown head gasket? But then theirs no smoke coming out from under my hood and no billows of white smoke. I have noticed that theirs a bit of blueish white smoke coming from my exhaust that smells very rich with fuel. Anything to with a failed Air Mass Meter by chance? Oh, and I'm doing a valve cover gasket change Monday as well, as I have an inside and outside leak.
I believe I may be having the same issue as you. I flushed my coolant system two days ago and noticed a lot of brown gunky material in there that had formed a gelatin like substance under the radiator cap. After flushing for about 10 minutes the water began running clear, but, when I'd wait about 2 minutes then I'd start to see some of this redish brown substance slowly trickle out the hose. At some point the brown color fluid became so insignificant I just said to hell with it and finished flushing and replenishing radiator fluid. I notice my transmission fluid is quite low actually. I'm planning to replace the transmission pan gasket, drain torque converter and trans, replenish, replace trans mount, and trans oil seal on Monday. Was thinking about trying to figure out what the deal with that brown gunk in my radiator reserve was then. Anyone have any ideas? At first I thought maybe a blown head gasket? But then theirs no smoke coming out from under my hood and no billows of white smoke. I have noticed that theirs a bit of blueish white smoke coming from my exhaust that smells very rich with fuel. Anything to with a failed Air Mass Meter by chance? Oh, and I'm doing a valve cover gasket change Monday as well, as I have an inside and outside leak.
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To both of you, I would say it is most likely an internal radiator leak between your coolant and ATF chambers. I believe this is the only place those two particular fluids could ever come in contact with eachother...
