300E Performance
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93 300E 2.8
I have not had the pleasure time and money to do performance upgrades, but I do have a few audio upgrades.
Also, it will be obvious if your belt or tensioner are bad,
Check for looseness/cracks on drive belt, inner and outer,
The squeak should be fairly high pitched, maybe worse in damp weather, or worst at start up of car
Also, it will be obvious if your belt or tensioner are bad,
Check for looseness/cracks on drive belt, inner and outer,
The squeak should be fairly high pitched, maybe worse in damp weather, or worst at start up of car
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Well, dont get me wrong, the W124 is a great car. The only thing is, it just cant keep up with modern day V6 and/or V8s. Ofcourse unless you own the 500E, then most modern v8s cant even run with you.
The squeeking sound doesn't really bother me, but it is kind of embarassing. And if you didn't know cars well, you would hear that noise, and think its a P.O.S. (Piece of S***)
This car doesn't deserve to be called a P.O.S because it is possibly the best Mercedes Benz ever built.
IN MY OPINION:
The car has everything you could possibly look for:
Good looks
Fast
Perfect Handling
Comfortable
Reliability
The only thing this car lacks..Is acceleration.
People automatically think its a horrible car when they hear the 0-60 is 8.4s.
Imagine the kind of respect this car would get if the acceleration was atleast 7s or faster.
I dream for a day that Mercedes will bring back the W124 chassis that is just as reliable, and is packing the 5.4L twin turbocharged engine.
The squeeking sound doesn't really bother me, but it is kind of embarassing. And if you didn't know cars well, you would hear that noise, and think its a P.O.S. (Piece of S***)
This car doesn't deserve to be called a P.O.S because it is possibly the best Mercedes Benz ever built.
IN MY OPINION:
The car has everything you could possibly look for:
Good looks
Fast
Perfect Handling
Comfortable
Reliability
The only thing this car lacks..Is acceleration.
People automatically think its a horrible car when they hear the 0-60 is 8.4s.
Imagine the kind of respect this car would get if the acceleration was atleast 7s or faster.
I dream for a day that Mercedes will bring back the W124 chassis that is just as reliable, and is packing the 5.4L twin turbocharged engine.
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Oh thats not good. Thats not good at all. Ok ill get my parents to take it in some time this month. Im not about to lose one of my favorite cars ever built!
Maybe its only worth 5 grand. But to me its worth more. I wouldn't sell my car for $15,000.
Well it my parents money..maybe i should let it blow. The more new parts the better. =P
Love your car by the way. 500E is IMO is great looking.
Throw some BBS LM's on there and you'll have the sexiest car ever built!
http://media.photobucket.com/image/5...l4Life/lms.jpg
Oh, and that reminds me of an important question.
Your for lights on the front bumper of the 500E, can i cut my bumper out like than and install those lights? Or can you not do that?
Because that would be a fun project, and it would look great.
Maybe its only worth 5 grand. But to me its worth more. I wouldn't sell my car for $15,000.
Well it my parents money..maybe i should let it blow. The more new parts the better. =P
Love your car by the way. 500E is IMO is great looking.
Throw some BBS LM's on there and you'll have the sexiest car ever built!
http://media.photobucket.com/image/5...l4Life/lms.jpg
Oh, and that reminds me of an important question.
Your for lights on the front bumper of the 500E, can i cut my bumper out like than and install those lights? Or can you not do that?
Because that would be a fun project, and it would look great.
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Of course you can try. On the 500e those lights are fogs whereas the interior lights (by the grille) are auxiliary driving lights.
You have to be sure you want another set of fog beams, you already have 2 such lights.
But yes, I want to do this as well, my only stipulation being that they must be amber.
You have to be sure you want another set of fog beams, you already have 2 such lights.
But yes, I want to do this as well, my only stipulation being that they must be amber.
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Yeah i definately want a set off those fog lights. They make the car look much better i think.
And anyways i never use the lights that are closest to the grille. Those things look so nasty, they are yellow and all, ewww. I wanted to replace those with white light bulbs, but im afraid that would make the lights look too big.
Then i really like the fenders on the 500E. The fenders in the front come out much wider, and kind of give it a more aggressive looking stance. Also the back 2 wheels have are wider, whereas mine doesnt have any fenders coming out in the back.
Can i make mine wider in the front, and get some in the back so it looks like the 500E.
And anyways i never use the lights that are closest to the grille. Those things look so nasty, they are yellow and all, ewww. I wanted to replace those with white light bulbs, but im afraid that would make the lights look too big.
Then i really like the fenders on the 500E. The fenders in the front come out much wider, and kind of give it a more aggressive looking stance. Also the back 2 wheels have are wider, whereas mine doesnt have any fenders coming out in the back.
Can i make mine wider in the front, and get some in the back so it looks like the 500E.
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First, you can't just simply swap out the bulb on the fogs to get white light. There is an amber glass dome inside the housing to make it amber. Second, amber fogs are designed for a reason: http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasc...9/phy99xx4.htm
My final reason though is that the amber fogs really give this car a early 90s DTM look and I just dig it.
The front fenders are hard to come by, expensive, and require that your current ones be taken off the car. Not a cheap proposition. The rears will have to be done similar and again, would not be cheap by any means.
My final reason though is that the amber fogs really give this car a early 90s DTM look and I just dig it.
The front fenders are hard to come by, expensive, and require that your current ones be taken off the car. Not a cheap proposition. The rears will have to be done similar and again, would not be cheap by any means.
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Oh thats not good. Thats not good at all. Ok ill get my parents to take it in some time this month. Im not about to lose one of my favorite cars ever built!
Maybe its only worth 5 grand. But to me its worth more. I wouldn't sell my car for $15,000.
Well it my parents money..maybe i should let it blow. The more new parts the better. =P
Love your car by the way. 500E is IMO is great looking.
Throw some BBS LM's on there and you'll have the sexiest car ever built!
http://media.photobucket.com/image/5...l4Life/lms.jpg
Oh, and that reminds me of an important question.
Your for lights on the front bumper of the 500E, can i cut my bumper out like than and install those lights? Or can you not do that?
Because that would be a fun project, and it would look great.
Maybe its only worth 5 grand. But to me its worth more. I wouldn't sell my car for $15,000.
Well it my parents money..maybe i should let it blow. The more new parts the better. =P
Love your car by the way. 500E is IMO is great looking.
Throw some BBS LM's on there and you'll have the sexiest car ever built!
http://media.photobucket.com/image/5...l4Life/lms.jpg
Oh, and that reminds me of an important question.
Your for lights on the front bumper of the 500E, can i cut my bumper out like than and install those lights? Or can you not do that?
Because that would be a fun project, and it would look great.
You want an AMG front bumper that is sporty and comes with fogs. Plenty of info on this forum about that.
The 500E has a widened front and rear suspension by Porsche, lowered too. The fenders were designed and assembled onto the car by Porsche, at their factory, to accomodate the extra width.
The front fenders are very rare, and need a special wider bumper. The rears have to be welded on by a bodyshop, and again, a wider bumper is needed too. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Auxillary Highbeams are cool, though!
Check out the 500E on Wikpedia.
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Check out these sites for DIY mods.
http://www.2phast.com/default.htm
http://www.sg-motorsports.com/default.htm
http://www.2phast.com/default.htm
http://www.sg-motorsports.com/default.htm
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Sweet thanks. And yeah i did some research on the 500E and i have read the 500E article on wikepedia.
And i wanted the AMG 2nd Gen front bumper(i think thats what its called, the one ZorroAmg has) but i believe its like $1500 and thats unpainted too.
Another worry is, my friends think since the car is 17 years old, i wouldnt find any matching paint.
Also that exhaust on your car on that picture you posted looks amazing (i think?) but i can't really see it too well.
Will that exhaust fit my car, and where did you find it?
And i wanted the AMG 2nd Gen front bumper(i think thats what its called, the one ZorroAmg has) but i believe its like $1500 and thats unpainted too.
Another worry is, my friends think since the car is 17 years old, i wouldnt find any matching paint.
Also that exhaust on your car on that picture you posted looks amazing (i think?) but i can't really see it too well.
Will that exhaust fit my car, and where did you find it?
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Sweet thanks. And yeah i did some research on the 500E and i have read the 500E article on wikepedia.
And i wanted the AMG 2nd Gen front bumper(i think thats what its called, the one ZorroAmg has) but i believe its like $1500 and thats unpainted too.
Another worry is, my friends think since the car is 17 years old, i wouldnt find any matching paint.
Also that exhaust on your car on that picture you posted looks amazing (i think?) but i can't really see it too well.
Will that exhaust fit my car, and where did you find it?
And i wanted the AMG 2nd Gen front bumper(i think thats what its called, the one ZorroAmg has) but i believe its like $1500 and thats unpainted too.
Another worry is, my friends think since the car is 17 years old, i wouldnt find any matching paint.
Also that exhaust on your car on that picture you posted looks amazing (i think?) but i can't really see it too well.
Will that exhaust fit my car, and where did you find it?
Any halfway decent bodyshop can paintmatch for you. If they can't, find another one who can.
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Sweet thanks. And yeah i did some research on the 500E and i have read the 500E article on wikepedia.
And i wanted the AMG 2nd Gen front bumper(i think thats what its called, the one ZorroAmg has) but i believe its like $1500 and thats unpainted too.
Another worry is, my friends think since the car is 17 years old, i wouldnt find any matching paint.
Also that exhaust on your car on that picture you posted looks amazing (i think?) but i can't really see it too well.
Will that exhaust fit my car, and where did you find it?
And i wanted the AMG 2nd Gen front bumper(i think thats what its called, the one ZorroAmg has) but i believe its like $1500 and thats unpainted too.
Another worry is, my friends think since the car is 17 years old, i wouldnt find any matching paint.
Also that exhaust on your car on that picture you posted looks amazing (i think?) but i can't really see it too well.
Will that exhaust fit my car, and where did you find it?
My exhaust is a Lorinser, $1,000 used - you could get a whole Magnaflow exhaust with high-flow Cat, for that
money. It would look sharp too.
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What can i do about the different color paint by the way? As in, my car is white, but at the bottom its more of a tanish/grey color. How much would that cost to get it painted the same as the rest of my car (white).
Because I'm not a big fan of the tan/grey..whatever you want to call it.
Which magnaflow exhaust would i want to get? I mean which ones could fit on the W124?
And i would prefer an exhaust system that sounds like the stock one, just a tiny tiny bit deeper, and a little louder.
I am interested in the exhaust more for the looks and the little performance it gives. And i love the way my car sounds stock, just a tiny bit deeper, and a little louder would be nice.
Because I'm not a big fan of the tan/grey..whatever you want to call it.
Which magnaflow exhaust would i want to get? I mean which ones could fit on the W124?
And i would prefer an exhaust system that sounds like the stock one, just a tiny tiny bit deeper, and a little louder.
I am interested in the exhaust more for the looks and the little performance it gives. And i love the way my car sounds stock, just a tiny bit deeper, and a little louder would be nice.
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YOU would need to call a few paint shops for estimates to paint the lower cladding to match the upper body.
YOU should check MagnaFlow website, use the phone number to contact a sales consultant, tell him what car you have, what you want, and he will give you a product recommendation and price.
Or...
Saijin might do that for you.
YOU should check MagnaFlow website, use the phone number to contact a sales consultant, tell him what car you have, what you want, and he will give you a product recommendation and price.
Or...
Saijin might do that for you.
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Oh guys i just thought about this. What if i got some gills on my hood to let some of the warm air out.
Because the nice cool air will come through the grille, and then try to find a way out. So the air will flow out of the hood, and then more cool air can flow in. This would atleast help keep the air from heating my air intake pipes.
I know this wouldn't give me much power, but it might make my can run better? And maybe keep from losing HP from warm air from sitting in the engine bay?
I just thought it would be a good way to make it run better maybe? At the least it will make my car look better. (IMO)
Then the curb weight of a 320E is 3505, so the 2.8L edition is probably 2400 lbs? Or is it heavier. Anyways is curb weight including a full tank of gas?
Because i was thinking....If i take out the jack and tools, and spare tire, and remove the back seat i can lose 40 lbs or so.
Then the tank holds close to 20 gallons of gas. So if i run 5 gallons, thats 15 less, and gas weighs 6 lbs a gallon. So figure 90 lbs less from running 5 gallons.
In total thats 130 lbs gone off the curb weight. So now we are down to somewhere between 3250 and 3350 lbs. Depending on how much the car weighs.
So, i would assume (with stock power) that i could do 0-60 in like 8.3s. Only .1 second better, but it wold be free. That can be the difference in winning and losing.
Because the nice cool air will come through the grille, and then try to find a way out. So the air will flow out of the hood, and then more cool air can flow in. This would atleast help keep the air from heating my air intake pipes.
I know this wouldn't give me much power, but it might make my can run better? And maybe keep from losing HP from warm air from sitting in the engine bay?
I just thought it would be a good way to make it run better maybe? At the least it will make my car look better. (IMO)
Then the curb weight of a 320E is 3505, so the 2.8L edition is probably 2400 lbs? Or is it heavier. Anyways is curb weight including a full tank of gas?
Because i was thinking....If i take out the jack and tools, and spare tire, and remove the back seat i can lose 40 lbs or so.
Then the tank holds close to 20 gallons of gas. So if i run 5 gallons, thats 15 less, and gas weighs 6 lbs a gallon. So figure 90 lbs less from running 5 gallons.
In total thats 130 lbs gone off the curb weight. So now we are down to somewhere between 3250 and 3350 lbs. Depending on how much the car weighs.
So, i would assume (with stock power) that i could do 0-60 in like 8.3s. Only .1 second better, but it wold be free. That can be the difference in winning and losing.
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These are all things you need to decide for yourself.
None of this is new stuff.
Search the forum, all this has been discussed before.
I know everyone would be interested in the actual results if you report back on it.
Try any ONE thing that you have talked about, and let us know.
Post some pictures of your Dad's car, please. There is a picture thread at the top of the 124 page.
None of this is new stuff.
Search the forum, all this has been discussed before.
I know everyone would be interested in the actual results if you report back on it.
Try any ONE thing that you have talked about, and let us know.
Post some pictures of your Dad's car, please. There is a picture thread at the top of the 124 page.
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These are all things you need to decide for yourself.
None of this is new stuff.
Search the forum, all this has been discussed before.
I know everyone would be interested in the actual results if you report back on it.
Try any ONE thing that you have talked about, and let us know.
Post some pictures of your Dad's car, please. There is a picture thread at the top of the 124 page.
None of this is new stuff.
Search the forum, all this has been discussed before.
I know everyone would be interested in the actual results if you report back on it.
Try any ONE thing that you have talked about, and let us know.
Post some pictures of your Dad's car, please. There is a picture thread at the top of the 124 page.
My Dad's car huh?
Well maybe, but i drive it all the time he never drives it.
So im going to stick with MY CAR if you don't mind =)
I didn't think gills would work too well, i just thought maybe they would. Idk
I will try to run as little gas as i can though, and take out the spare tire and back seat. I mean the spare tire must weigh 20 lbs, the back seat 10-15 lbs.
And then i will run a little bit of octane booster in there and see how much faster my car can do 0-60.
I know it wouldnt do 0-60 any faster than 8.2 figuring the stock is 8.4. But hey .2 seconds is .2 seconds.
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It'll be your car eventually :P
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Sounds like you are planning mods, but are not in a position to do that, though.
Post some pics, regardless.
Oh, and don't waste your money on Octane Boost.
Octane actually retards detonation, and does NOT add one bit of power.
Read up on that in Wiki.
For your car it is a waste. Don't be ripped off!
Post some pics, regardless.
Oh, and don't waste your money on Octane Boost.
Octane actually retards detonation, and does NOT add one bit of power.
Read up on that in Wiki.
For your car it is a waste. Don't be ripped off!
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Well see i just want a fast car. I mean driving in my friends' cars going 100+ mph makes me want to do the same. And i know my MB will easily do 135-140, its just the acceleration that is not as quick as most cars. I mean 8.4 isn't really much to be proud of =(.
7 second acceleration and a top speed of 140 MPH is pretty good in my opinion. See i just don't want to be the person that is left like 1/4 mile back from everyone else.
Although i know the 300E 2.8L has a decently quick 0-124 mph time of 34-35 seconds.
For example a stock Civic Si is about 42 seconds 0-124 and my car would be 35 or so..i guess my car would fighting back at 70MPH or so then.
But when you are on the streets not many people are going to race you up to over 120 MPH. Which is why 0-60 and 1/4 mile times are pretty important.
If i could just get a list of the TOP 5 performance upgrades for under $1,000 each part. I need an idea of what i can buy, and i will just buy the top 3 performance upgrades for under $1,000 per upgrade.
For example:
Exhaust System-$1000. 15 HP.
Those numbers arnt exact i just made those up, its just as an example if anyone doesn't mind please making me a list of these TOP 5 performance upgrades.
Thanks =)
7 second acceleration and a top speed of 140 MPH is pretty good in my opinion. See i just don't want to be the person that is left like 1/4 mile back from everyone else.
Although i know the 300E 2.8L has a decently quick 0-124 mph time of 34-35 seconds.
For example a stock Civic Si is about 42 seconds 0-124 and my car would be 35 or so..i guess my car would fighting back at 70MPH or so then.
But when you are on the streets not many people are going to race you up to over 120 MPH. Which is why 0-60 and 1/4 mile times are pretty important.
If i could just get a list of the TOP 5 performance upgrades for under $1,000 each part. I need an idea of what i can buy, and i will just buy the top 3 performance upgrades for under $1,000 per upgrade.
For example:
Exhaust System-$1000. 15 HP.
Those numbers arnt exact i just made those up, its just as an example if anyone doesn't mind please making me a list of these TOP 5 performance upgrades.
Thanks =)
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Let's be realistic, based on your age, you are in no position to really be talking about going at anything over 80mph here. Let alone the fact it has now been established it isn't even your car LOL, nor do you have any money. Who's to lay down how long it will be before the car is totaled? I do hope you don't take out anybody else in the process of doing so though.
"If you pay peanuts, you get monkey's"
"If you pay peanuts, you get monkey's"
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I've taken the car way over 80 MPH before with my parents in the car. I just wanted a list of the TOP 5 parts that i can get for performance.
These cars handle very well, so i would think im in a position to go over 100 MPH when the times are right. Not on an every day bases but every now and again ill push it into the 100s
These cars handle very well, so i would think im in a position to go over 100 MPH when the times are right. Not on an every day bases but every now and again ill push it into the 100s
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Smart thing to do. What speed rating are your tires? How are the rims? What about your brakes, last time those were changed? How is the subframe, swaybars, shocks, and springs?
All in top form so you are safe to go 100+?
All in top form so you are safe to go 100+?
