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Old Dec 29, 2007 | 02:49 PM
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Just got a 99 E430, want more power Hp/ Tq, what are my options?
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Old Dec 29, 2007 | 03:23 PM
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u can drop in the 5.5L supercharged V8 M113 motor
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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 10:08 PM
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ML320, Looking for my S4
1. kleemann cams
2. full exhaust ex. headers, high flow cats, x pipe, true duel exhaust, eisennman muffler
3. gruppe m intake
4. hps super charger
5. kleemann super charger
6. renntech airbox
7. amg airbox ex. e55, clk55, c43, n/a s55, n/a cl55
8. ecu ex. kleemann, renntech, powerchip, speed tuning usa
9. nos!
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Old Dec 31, 2007 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by TommyGunn
1. kleemann cams
2. full exhaust ex. headers, high flow cats, x pipe, true duel exhaust, eisennman muffler
3. gruppe m intake
4. hps super charger
5. kleemann super charger
6. renntech airbox
7. amg airbox ex. e55, clk55, c43, n/a s55, n/a cl55
8. ecu ex. kleemann, renntech, powerchip, speed tuning usa
9. nos!
and then some...
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Old Jan 1, 2008 | 02:09 AM
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Originally Posted by TommyGunn
1. kleemann cams
2. full exhaust ex. headers, high flow cats, x pipe, true duel exhaust, eisennman muffler
3. gruppe m intake
4. hps super charger
5. kleemann super charger
6. renntech airbox
7. amg airbox ex. e55, clk55, c43, n/a s55, n/a cl55
8. ecu ex. kleemann, renntech, powerchip, speed tuning usa
9. nos!
Good lord almighty! And what would the bill run on that???

For those of us with kids and a mortgage, what would be a good, inexpensive starting point?? (as I'm also the proud owner of a new to me 99 E430)

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Old Jan 1, 2008 | 03:16 AM
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For those of us with kids and a mortgage, what would be a good, inexpensive starting point??
Sell it and buy:
-E55
-M3 4dr
-C36
-WRX

Modifying your E430 is pointless and costly. You will lose 100% of the money you spend on mods, if you don't put it back to stock when you sell the car, and resell your mod parts.
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Old Jan 1, 2008 | 03:22 AM
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i have a lorinser/fortech charger on my 320 v6 --- its ok but not like an amg of course-but i can drive it with 11l/100km if i dont press it this is not possible with a v8 5.5 - but in the us gas costs are secondary i belive
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Old Jan 1, 2008 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by dsmith
Sell it and buy:
-E55
-M3 4dr
-C36
-WRX

Modifying your E430 is pointless and costly. You will lose 100% of the money you spend on mods, if you don't put it back to stock when you sell the car, and resell your mod parts.
indeed, but a WRX certainly isn't the answer.

Neither is an E36 4door M3.

I would say get an M5, E55, or something like a corvette.
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Old Jan 4, 2008 | 01:44 AM
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One of my other cars is an M3 which I love and have owned for the past 14 years, I may never sell my car as I'm accustom to buying cars that I have a passion for, this is the first car that I have bought for my self since the purchase of my M3 and was hoping that I could get maybe 325-350hp/315-325tq
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Old Jan 4, 2008 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by bendx
One of my other cars is an M3 which I love and have owned for the past 14 years, I may never sell my car as I'm accustom to buying cars that I have a passion for, this is the first car that I have bought for my self since the purchase of my M3 and was hoping that I could get maybe 325-350hp/315-325tq

It would appear that the naysayers are telling us to forget about juicing the E class

I sold my '05 M3 Vert in mid '07 and miss it. Don't sell yours!
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Old Jan 5, 2008 | 01:06 AM
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Sell??? Never.
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Old Jan 5, 2008 | 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by bendx
Sell??? Never.
hehehehe....good man.
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Old Jan 5, 2008 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by TommyGunn
1. kleemann cams
2. full exhaust ex. headers, high flow cats, x pipe, true duel exhaust, eisennman muffler
3. gruppe m intake
4. hps super charger
5. kleemann super charger
6. renntech airbox
7. amg airbox ex. e55, clk55, c43, n/a s55, n/a cl55
8. ecu ex. kleemann, renntech, powerchip, speed tuning usa
9. nos!
Pay for shipping and Tommy will send it to you
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Old Jan 12, 2008 | 12:26 PM
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Pay for shipping and Tommy will send it to you
nope, threw out all parts except for the gruppe m, who will have a new home in a nogaro blue s4. Persoanly I considered an e55 but I learned from my mistakes. Mercedes are unreliable, and have poor interior quality.
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Old Jan 12, 2008 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by TommyGunn
Mercedes are unreliable, and have poor interior quality.
JUDAS!!!
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Old Jan 12, 2008 | 12:59 PM
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Now,we go from being regaled with every story in the world about killing everything from porches to M cars to Audis with there tractor engines at speeds beyond 163 mph in a 6banger with some HA mods,to Dissing the marque as
"Mercedes are unreliable, and have poor interior quality."
Tommy please do us all a great service and find that pastel blue tractor engined Audi S4 quickly so we can visit the S4 forum and continue having a good laugh daily when you wow them with you tales of legerdemain and how many poc mercedes you killed that day.
Just make sure the little old lady in the silver E320 is not doing her nails and drinking a latte at the same time so she gives you a fair chance


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Old Jan 12, 2008 | 04:41 PM
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since when is a twin turbo 2.7l v6 a tractor engine?
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Old Jan 12, 2008 | 05:08 PM
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First of all, a 2.7L motor doesn't have enough torque to be an efficient tractor. Secondly a 2.7L s4 is one of the most feared sedans on the road for having limitless power, and having a very liner power band. Stage 2 s4's can put down 300AWHP after a 25% drivetrain loss = 375bhp. Its N-O-G-A-R-O blue btw, but I can understand someone on medicare being short on vision. Anyway, I will be sure to get the pictures to you as soon as I get the car and then we can meet up and make a video of your E320 vs my S4 and post it on youtube for everyone to see.
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Old Jan 12, 2008 | 05:11 PM
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oh yeah, this is a stage 3 s4 WAGON. http://youtube.com/watch?v=4igKYor1Qeo

now lets see what it takes for your pos to do this.

0-60 in 4 seconds
0-100 in 9 seconds
0-120 in 12 seconds

and do a 11.9 second quarter mile time.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=cqn5GPpD7RQ

BTw whenever you get the chance to find a tractor motor that can run 9.5 on a track, please tell me.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=2lf76UYuBXs&feature=related

oh yeah, the guys at ssp tuning are all friends of mine.

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Old Jan 12, 2008 | 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by TommyGunn
Mercedes are unreliable, and have poor interior quality.
Regardless of your last 2 posts, I still say: Judas
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Old Jan 12, 2008 | 06:05 PM
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blue it is.20/15 vision.Maybe with the 4 wheel drive you will be able to keep it heading the correct way down the road
just read your last post,if and if you can ever afford a stage 3 s4 and you mod it real ricey,as you are sure to do,I have no worries. Either you will blow it up or reck it before I could ever drive all the way back to my childhood street racing haunts.
Please check back in when you have a membership on the S4 forum,We need a good laugh
everyone who believed your inline 6 E320 could do 163mph at jones beach on 220 rwhp will surely be impressed with how fast you can go in your s4 with 300 rwhp
I already sent word for them to order their boots
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Old Jan 12, 2008 | 06:15 PM
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Now,we go from being regaled with every story in the world about killing everything from porches to M cars to Audis with there tractor engines at speeds beyond 163 mph in a 6banger with some HA mods,to Dissing the marque as
"Mercedes are unreliable, and have poor interior quality."
Tommy please do us all a great service and find that pastel blue tractor engined Audi S4 quickly so we can visit the S4 forum and continue having a good laugh daily when you wow them with you tales of legerdemain and how many poc mercedes you killed that day.
Just make sure the little old lady in the silver E320 is not doing her nails and drinking a latte at the same time so she gives you a fair chance


As far as the 2.7t B5 S4 goes you just about know Squat. Having been in the S4 Tuning business for the past year and a half with SSP Tuning, I can tell you that a 2.7t with the proper mods will not only trounce any AMG/ M but also high end super cars. http://youtube.com/watch?v=aWviVmRykPI
Our shop is working with a highly similar setup on a sedan but with more powerful tuning.

Mercedes are unreliable, I have one, and know a good number of people that own them as well which have nothing but problems. Maybe this is changing as of recent times due to Mercedes investment in quality, but the general consensus is that for the past decade these cars have been highly problematic. Out of all people you should know that the fake Mbtex leather and and plastic "wood" trim in your car is not quality .

You know what would do this forum a great service? If you got a life man. Take your **** poor grammar and punctuation elsewhere, as far as I'm concerned you're nothing but a useless taint on this forum.

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Old Jan 12, 2008 | 06:32 PM
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blue it is.20/15 vision.Maybe with the 4 wheel drive you will be able to keep it heading the correct way down the road
just read your last post,if and if you can ever afford a stage 3 s4 and you mod it real ricey,as you are sure to do,I have no worries. Either you will blow it up or reck it before I could ever drive all the way back to my childhood street racing haunts.
Please check back in when you have a membership on the S4 forum,We need a good laugh
everyone who believed your inline 6 E320 could do 163mph at jones beach on 220 rwhp will surely be impressed with how fast you can go in your s4 with 300 rwhp
I already sent word for them to order their boots
ohlord
Too bad you're a withered old man with a group of old cars living in the *** end of the States. It's pretty sad when an 18 year old like Tom can afford what you can on his own accord. Seeing you can recall his dyno number so easily its easy to conclude his car made plenty impact on you. (Other than it hitting a wall ) That and the fact that the second his name pops up anywhere on the forum you can't help but to bust your nut to insult him. Pretty sad, for a withered old man.
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Old Jan 12, 2008 | 06:38 PM
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since nobody cares what you are concerned about on this forum,I have no worries.What did tommyboy do call in his big brother from up in his kill forum to come to his defense?I always wondered why a forum member was more concerned with what somebody thought about his ricey s4 and now I guess I know.
I have a great life.Now why don't you run back up to your b.s. forum and try to impress them with your most recent kill.
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Old Jan 12, 2008 | 06:57 PM
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is very easy to recall those numbers and lots of the members here can also recall them.We laugh every time he pops in and the b.s. flows like water.How can anyone forget his famous kills?
As for you. Do you ever offer anything other then X car v.s. Y car posts or defenses of tommyboys claims?You two related or dating?
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