Advise on OEM parts VS after market parts
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2000 e430( w210),1979 240D (w123), 1992 300e(w124), 1990 mitsubishi galant VR4
Advise on OEM parts VS after market parts
hello guys
i need to replace my front disc brakes & pads
any advise? because if i will buy my parts from the dealer it would me very expensive, compare to some parts from NAPA or pepboys,
Does those cross drilled disc brake GOOD selling on Ebay ?
Thanks
i need to replace my front disc brakes & pads
any advise? because if i will buy my parts from the dealer it would me very expensive, compare to some parts from NAPA or pepboys,
Does those cross drilled disc brake GOOD selling on Ebay ?
Thanks
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The cross drilled ones on ebay from canada do great but most of the other ones(mostly the non crossed drilled ones that are just grooved) warp like hell. EBC is also a cheapish alternative that has the cross drilled type in oem size.
Dont ever buy pads from china and what not. A couple years ago a company was busted for using wood chips in the pad......I would get a set of the canadian disks and some locally found pads.
OR if you want some awesome huge brakes that arent super expensive K-sport sells Big brake kits for 1500-1600 for either the front or the rear in 13 and 14" form.
Dont ever buy pads from china and what not. A couple years ago a company was busted for using wood chips in the pad......I would get a set of the canadian disks and some locally found pads.
OR if you want some awesome huge brakes that arent super expensive K-sport sells Big brake kits for 1500-1600 for either the front or the rear in 13 and 14" form.
Last edited by Max Hughes; Oct 17, 2008 at 06:26 PM.
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Go to Tirerack.com and ask about their Brembo drilled or slotted rotors. Good high quality from a recognized brand and backed by a solid warranty and company. They will not warranty the drilled ones for track use but the grooved ones are Ok. Both do an excellent job and are fitted for what you have now. If you have 3100.00 for the front get the Brembo big brake set up. They are fantastic at high speed events. Otherwise the stock replacement is everything you need for the street. My wife's car has the cryo treated slotted rotors and has never complained. I have driven it many times and the stopping power is spot on. I run the two piece Brembo on my car and at speed it halls it right down repeatedly from 100-150. It is all about time and money. Tire Rack will give you good advice based on your needs. The self replacement is not that hard and there are several threads in the DIY section here that can assist.
good luck.
good luck.
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rotors akebono pads from tirerack if you like less dust and have or are getting custom rims you like to keep clean.You do not need thousands of dollar big brake kits,even if you track your car you will not run out of brake with the stock rotors.Slotted are fine for show,cross drilled crack unless you get high quality thicker and that means modded calipers etc,not ebay
You don't want napa or pep boys.
$3100 brembo big brake kit for a 9 grand street car
You don't want napa or pep boys.
$3100 brembo big brake kit for a 9 grand street car
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If you want higher performance brakes, I have no advice.
If you just want to perform maintenance, I would suggest the step inbetween the dealer and Pep Boys. That is a supplier like autohausaz which supplies replacement pads which are built to manufacturer's specs and use the same pad compound. A set for the front is about $70 plus a couple of dollars for grease and sensors.
If you just want to perform maintenance, I would suggest the step inbetween the dealer and Pep Boys. That is a supplier like autohausaz which supplies replacement pads which are built to manufacturer's specs and use the same pad compound. A set for the front is about $70 plus a couple of dollars for grease and sensors.
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Try this company...as I understand it, they use OEM rotors then slot and or cross drill them. they have have a lifetime warranty so if they do warp..you will get them replaced.
http://brakeperformance.com/site/bra...0408&ad=google
http://brakeperformance.com/site/bra...0408&ad=google
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Since you have several Mercedes, but posted your question here, I'll assume you are inquiring about the 2000 E430.
OEM is about as good as it gets, with the possible exception of the brake dust. MB has developed a harder and lower dust pad, that you might want to investigate further.
On the other hand, if you can find an after-market pad, or rotor, made by the same manufacturer and buy it from a reputable place like autohausaz.com I see no problem with taking that route. You'll see a lot of those parts available, they just don't come in a box with the 3-pointed star.
OEM is about as good as it gets, with the possible exception of the brake dust. MB has developed a harder and lower dust pad, that you might want to investigate further.
On the other hand, if you can find an after-market pad, or rotor, made by the same manufacturer and buy it from a reputable place like autohausaz.com I see no problem with taking that route. You'll see a lot of those parts available, they just don't come in a box with the 3-pointed star.
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Try this company...as I understand it, they use OEM rotors then slot and or cross drill them. they have have a lifetime warranty so if they do warp..you will get them replaced.
http://brakeperformance.com/site/bra...0408&ad=google
http://brakeperformance.com/site/bra...0408&ad=google
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I always use these guys. They know Mercedes very well and have great prices and selection. You can IM with Rusty for advice
http://www.buymbparts.com/
http://www.buymbparts.com/
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another place with 30-40% higher prices for the same oem parts as autohausaz.com.People gotta shop around more
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An over generalization and not true. Bosch OEM Spark plugs, air filters, oil filters were cheaper. paid $120 for a passenger seat occupant sensor which was $60 cheaper then anywhere else. I always shop around. Free shipping for $100 orders. Air filters
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Air filter
@ is $10.69 cheaper,mass air sensor $50 cheaper. CPS $8 less autohausaz.com ships free over $50. You are correct about the oil filter,but if I need to spend over $100 bucks in filters to get free shipping to save the 40 cents that does not take me that long to figure out who has the better deals.
You get oe NGK 7090 plugs single side electrode for $2.89 at the local parts store.
If I had a seat sensor go out I have other sources
You get oe NGK 7090 plugs single side electrode for $2.89 at the local parts store.
If I had a seat sensor go out I have other sources
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bosch and NGK are oe.I like the NGK 7090 in design it is more like the original platin single side electrode plug and that lasted 100k the NGK is only $2.89 it will last 100k. The M112 and its big sister the M113 hate the multi tip plugs so you never ever waste your money on them.
Brake rotors even if they are oem and some company cross drills them there is not enough material and they will eventually crack and there is no need to worry about off gassing from pads so why risk a cracked rotor just for looks.And no company is going to warranty against warping.You could warp a 500 buck rotor just by being stupid and not torquing the rim properly or not bedding in the pads correctly and stopping from 120 mph and then sitting at a light with a red hot rotor and your foot on the brakes,during the break in period.
brembo slotted,oem,cryo treated all good.. cross drilled all show no go.
Brake rotors even if they are oem and some company cross drills them there is not enough material and they will eventually crack and there is no need to worry about off gassing from pads so why risk a cracked rotor just for looks.And no company is going to warranty against warping.You could warp a 500 buck rotor just by being stupid and not torquing the rim properly or not bedding in the pads correctly and stopping from 120 mph and then sitting at a light with a red hot rotor and your foot on the brakes,during the break in period.
brembo slotted,oem,cryo treated all good.. cross drilled all show no go.
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The manual lists both Bosch and NGK (and Beru) as OEM. Mercedes are shipped with both. The Bosch 7422 (Updated version of OE spark plugs F8DPER and F8DPP33) or the F8DPP33 is what you will get if you purchase at a dealer. You can get them online for about $4.89 each. The NGK 7090 is not the OEM plug listed in the manual (at least for my car) but it is very similar and sell for $2.89 at most autoparts stores. Ohlord uses them all the time and swears by them. I've spoken to MB mechanics that say only use the Bosch OEM. Also most MB enthusiast owned web sites seem to only sell Bosch plugs, including Autohauzaz and bymbparts.com. I purchased the Bosch although I haven't installed them yet. I have 95k mikes on my original plugs and the car runs like new and gets 30mpg
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http://ngk.com/results_app.asp?AAIA=1374184
7090
in a M113 that's 16 *$2 =$32 savings
M112=$24 savings
http://ngk.com/results_app.asp?AAIA=1374184
7090
in a M113 that's 16 *$2 =$32 savings
M112=$24 savings
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Guys, aftermarket drilled and/or slotted rotors will do nothing for you if you go with stock calipers. I have a good front set, and I can tell you that it makes no difference whatsoever (although I don't race around a track). It is purely cosmetic.
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http://ngk.com/results_app.asp?AAIA=1374184
7090
in a M113 that's 16 *$2 =$32 savings
M112=$24 savings
http://ngk.com/results_app.asp?AAIA=1374184
7090
in a M113 that's 16 *$2 =$32 savings
M112=$24 savings
We know you've been recommending and using 7090 for years. In fact if you google "Mercedes 7090 Plug" you pretty much come up with your glowing endorsement exclusively. That said, 1) my mercedes indy mechanic that worked on Mercedes for 25 years told me only to use the Bosch plug OEM plug 2) My marine mechanic used NGK plugs on his personal MB vehicle, and has since complained of a misfire problem and 3) most MB oriented websites exclusively sell the Bosch plug. I'm sure that I could use the 7090 plug and probably be just fine but I chose to invest an extra $24 for the OEM Bosch plug that everyone else recommends.
But, you're still my favorite Post-er and have given me (and everyone else around here) invaluable advice, :-)
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