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Old May 11, 2009 | 11:26 AM
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MAF ???

Hello,

It is time for me to get a new MAF for my 01 E430. I am looking at several options.

1. Get it thru the dealer, price I don't know.

2. Advance auto parts, $328.00 OEM replacement (I think the brand is Cardone)

3. Ebay, $181.00 incl shipping (BOSCH, New)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Merce...Q5fAccessories

4. Ebay, $61.99 shipped (Don't know what the brand is but definitely not BOSCH)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/AIR-M...Q5fAccessories

Any opinions on what I should get? Does the MB original brand works better?

Any advice is highly appreciated.

Thanks....
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Old May 11, 2009 | 12:02 PM
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germanstardotnet has genuine bosch insert for $130, and they seem to work fine.
autohausazdotcom has the complete maf unit for $150. i would personally go with the complete maf (housing + insert) from autohausaz for $150.
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Old May 11, 2009 | 12:11 PM
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Per above

www.autohausaz.com free shipping over 50 bucks
BTW never ebay parts usually clones or fakes or chinese knock offs.So Caveat Emptor.
Have you ran your obd2 scanner and posted the codes?So we can be sure it is the maf you need to be r/r ing?
have you cleaned it first per the diy over on www.benzworld.org
w210 diy section....crc brand maf cleaner only,please
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Old May 11, 2009 | 01:24 PM
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Thanks for the quick reply. The code reader showed:

P2017 Self adaptation of mixture formation from bank1/2 of cylinder is at
P2086 max/min limit at idle speed

I cleaned the MAF with the MAF Cleaner (yes CRC). It ran good for 10 miles then it was back to where it was. Did the cleaning 2X and with the same results (goes crappy again after 10 miles).
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Old May 11, 2009 | 02:17 PM
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Autohauz AZ @ 154.99, like ohlord says, with free shipping for orders over $50. I've been getting all of my parts from there (shocks, clips, misc parts, etc.) for a great price. Plus you'll know exactly what it is. Who knows what fleaBay offers...it's okay, but just know the associated risk. Good luck!

The link to the MAF is below:
https://www.autohausaz.com/search/pr...0Mass%20Sensor
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Old May 12, 2009 | 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by ghaffar23
Autohauz AZ @ 154.99, like ohlord says, with free shipping for orders over $50. I've been getting all of my parts from there (shocks, clips, misc parts, etc.) for a great price. Plus you'll know exactly what it is. Who knows what fleaBay offers...it's okay, but just know the associated risk. Good luck!

The link to the MAF is below:
https://www.autohausaz.com/search/pr...0Mass%20Sensor
+1 For Autohauz AZ price's are great and free shipping on orders ($50+) I ordered front wheel bearings and MAF from them. Few members in the AMG section swears by them as well

Also very easy to change MAF that was my first DIY


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Old May 12, 2009 | 04:11 AM
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maf

fuel trim codes p0170 and p0173 both banks affected.2017 would be an odd one.
Clear the code and see if it returns.
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Old May 13, 2009 | 05:20 PM
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Yep, I cleared them already and they came back.
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Old May 14, 2009 | 07:56 PM
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Get the new MAF, it will clear it up!
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Old May 17, 2009 | 10:44 PM
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I'm getting the new MAF today. Car runs crappy. Hope this works.
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Old May 17, 2009 | 11:48 PM
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So, what exactly do you do with the shredded coconuts? j/k.

Good luck with the MAF change.
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Old May 21, 2009 | 01:47 PM
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So, what exactly do you do with the shredded coconuts? j/k.

Good luck with the MAF change.
Mix it with vanilla ice cream "YUMMMM". Or you can bake it to make coconut cookies or macaroons.

BTW I replaced the MAF. No change. Got CEL this morning showing code 2017 & 2086.

Any advice?

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Old May 21, 2009 | 03:07 PM
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I'm on the same boat... in my case, its P410, P170 and P173. New MAF and same codes. I've even done a full tune-up. The car idles rough once in a while, and my gas mileage is crappy (at around 22 mpg). I've already ordered all 4 O2 sensors for $400. That goes in this weekend. The car is nearing 170K miles, fwiw.

BTW, you could also squeeze the milk out of your kudkud and make all other kinds of good stuff. Me, I just buy the can. It's easier. hahahah!!!
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Old May 21, 2009 | 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by ron m.
I'm on the same boat... in my case, its P410, P170 and P173. New MAF and same codes. I've even done a full tune-up. The car idles rough once in a while, and my gas mileage is crappy (at around 22 mpg). I've already ordered all 4 O2 sensors for $400. That goes in this weekend. The car is nearing 170K miles, fwiw.

BTW, you could also squeeze the milk out of your kudkud and make all other kinds of good stuff. Me, I just buy the can. It's easier. hahahah!!!
I agree, it is easier buying the can. But nothing compares to freshly squeezed kudkud.

Good luck on the O2 sensors.
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Old May 28, 2009 | 04:56 PM
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Problem not solved yet. I read in a different thread that changing the FUEL FILTER might solve the problem so that's what I'm doing. Eversince I bought the car, the fuel filter has not been replaced yet. I already got an OEM fuel filter. Good luck to me.
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Old May 28, 2009 | 05:23 PM
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did you check for vaccum leaks? if fuel filter doesn't fix anything, try to find a good indie in your area and have him connect the car to sds machine to read the values, and also check for vaccum leaks.
by the way where did you buy the maf and how much its cost?
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Old May 30, 2009 | 12:06 AM
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Fuel filter did not fix it.

www.autohausaz.com around $160.00

whats an INDIE and an SDS machine?
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Old May 30, 2009 | 01:07 PM
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indie is indipendent mechanic that knows how to work with mb. sds is mb star diagnosis system which can read the error codes and much more.
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Old May 31, 2009 | 12:35 AM
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Does your code reader read real time data?, if so look at the oxygen sensor outputs.

If not get one that does i use the u581 from e bay (£70) with a 16pin new style adaptor to our older 38 pin socket, works a treat.

I will bet you have a lambda sensor that is knackered and is switching to slowly hence the codes.

U581 here http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Car-Diagnostic...3A1%7C294%3A50

Works on mine 01 E430 and wifes 01 W203 c320 plus numerous other cars so very useful tool


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Old Jun 1, 2009 | 11:00 AM
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TIRONA, LYNALL,

Thanks for the info. I have this reader:

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