rough idle on cold start and some moke
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rough idle on cold start and some moke
i have a 98 E300 td , on cold start it idles rough for about a minute or less
is sounds like a glow plug i'ts not heating up but i don't get no glowplug indicator when the car is running like it should if a glowplug is bad , is it possible that the glowplug does warm up but not heat up enough , or could it be an injector problem? or what else can anyone sugest ? please any idea is respected and appriciated.
is sounds like a glow plug i'ts not heating up but i don't get no glowplug indicator when the car is running like it should if a glowplug is bad , is it possible that the glowplug does warm up but not heat up enough , or could it be an injector problem? or what else can anyone sugest ? please any idea is respected and appriciated.
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yes i did run the A/C test i did get many codes, i don't have them handy at the me moment but how do i translate these codes to realize what they mean ? and thanks for the info on location of the sensor .
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here i'm posting everything i got from the A/C test .
01-17 E61-226 thanks for your help
02-06 228
03-29 224
04-28 230
05-08 232
06-31 233
07-02 234
08-06 454
241
E FF
01-17 E61-226 thanks for your help
02-06 228
03-29 224
04-28 230
05-08 232
06-31 233
07-02 234
08-06 454
241
E FF
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don't you think if it's a bad pump the engine would not run well even when warm ?
an other thing is that i pulled out two of the glow plugs and made contact to the engine and turnd them on to heat up, i saw that they only heat up at the tip of it about 3/8 on an inch ,is that haw they should work or are they supposed to heat up all the way to the metalic part which is thicker?
these codes that i showed you are a bit old since i had the EC light staying on and ran the test , you are right i have low refrigirant , so the codes were taken i think before this problem started , but i will pull them out again and see if they show different. just if it would make a difference as well this problem started right after i used the diesel KLEEN product to clean the injectors , i did use some extra of it more then normal in fact but on the bottle it said i could use extra if i wanted faster results.
i'm sorry for writing so much. and thank you
an other thing is that i pulled out two of the glow plugs and made contact to the engine and turnd them on to heat up, i saw that they only heat up at the tip of it about 3/8 on an inch ,is that haw they should work or are they supposed to heat up all the way to the metalic part which is thicker?
these codes that i showed you are a bit old since i had the EC light staying on and ran the test , you are right i have low refrigirant , so the codes were taken i think before this problem started , but i will pull them out again and see if they show different. just if it would make a difference as well this problem started right after i used the diesel KLEEN product to clean the injectors , i did use some extra of it more then normal in fact but on the bottle it said i could use extra if i wanted faster results.
i'm sorry for writing so much. and thank you
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yes you are right , i apologize, i just wasn't sure of when, because it was a matter of a few days apart , but i should have made sure about that i will try to run the test again .
now i'm hoping it is a bad ECT rather then anything else . also note that i don't get good fuel economy anymore , i'm only getting about 24-25 mpg in average mix highway and city , which is not good at all compared to what others are reporting and to what i knew about these engines . maybe this will tell you something more on the problem i'm haveing .
now i'm hoping it is a bad ECT rather then anything else . also note that i don't get good fuel economy anymore , i'm only getting about 24-25 mpg in average mix highway and city , which is not good at all compared to what others are reporting and to what i knew about these engines . maybe this will tell you something more on the problem i'm haveing .
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Hi Plutoe or anyone else , i am back with the new diagnoses test values and here they are if anyone still wants to offer some help .
(1 16) (12 4.3)
(2 08) (20 0.0)
(3 26) (21 00)
(4 27) (22 00)
(5 19) (23 00)
(6 41) (24 11.4)
(7 03) (40 60 )
(8 15) (41 19)
(9 00) (42 00)
(10 0.8) (43- 112)
(11 1.8)
Just to make sure i ran the test the right way ! this is how i did it , i lowered the temperature settings to low on auto and by pressing and holding the rest button i was able to collect the values from 1 to 43 i not see the error sign E this time , could it be becouse i changed the CC unit , the first one had a blury screen is it posible that this one has not been able to collect the correct date yet even though it has been several days , even though the first one was taken from another car several months back . however any halp at all i appriciate , thanks again to Plutoe.
(1 16) (12 4.3)
(2 08) (20 0.0)
(3 26) (21 00)
(4 27) (22 00)
(5 19) (23 00)
(6 41) (24 11.4)
(7 03) (40 60 )
(8 15) (41 19)
(9 00) (42 00)
(10 0.8) (43- 112)
(11 1.8)
Just to make sure i ran the test the right way ! this is how i did it , i lowered the temperature settings to low on auto and by pressing and holding the rest button i was able to collect the values from 1 to 43 i not see the error sign E this time , could it be becouse i changed the CC unit , the first one had a blury screen is it posible that this one has not been able to collect the correct date yet even though it has been several days , even though the first one was taken from another car several months back . however any halp at all i appriciate , thanks again to Plutoe.
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Yes the car runs fine ones warm and also if do warm up the glow plugs a few times seems to run alittle better on the start or in a warmer weather
i'm in connecticut (north east usa ) and it gets cold here at night but in warmer days it runs better .
Thank you Plutoe.
i'm in connecticut (north east usa ) and it gets cold here at night but in warmer days it runs better .
Thank you Plutoe.
