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Old May 2, 2012 | 03:01 PM
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Hi there!

About to buy my first Benz! A E220 Touring from 2000, facelift. Looks quite good but it sure does need to be lowered asap!

Will be buying a set of wheels aswell, but since I haven't got the car yet I'll ask so the right size will be ordered...

This is what I want! (Sorry for the use of this photo, I'll remove it if neccesary)


What kind of offset would you think this one's got?

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Old May 2, 2012 | 03:03 PM
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Another thing I haven't considered is the possibility of another rear-suspension setup since the car above is an AMG.

Mine is just a plain original diesel :P
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Old May 2, 2012 | 10:10 PM
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300E a couple 1994 w124wagon E320 Wagon/,1971MGB Track/Rally, MG Midget Autocross ,2000 E320 wagon.
Run w210 amg rims in 35 et rear

30 et front with 235 and 265 in proper profiles for 18's.
or for a nice ride and still performance and look 17's in above sizes
235/45/17 and 265/40/17 within 1 rev per mile front and rear,and your speedo will remain accurate.
The picture you display is not so much a matter of offset or tire size as it is lowering springs and that is a whole nuther kettle of worms.
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Old May 3, 2012 | 06:01 AM
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What do you mean by that? Real hassle to drive with lowering springs?
I've been thinking about buying a 50/40mm lowering spring set? Any opinions on that? Too high/low?

Yea, that 17 inch thought ain't dumb. Looks good with some decent 17 wheels with the correct amount of lowering.... Plus the wheels might get lighter so the car won't loose any power/performance.
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Old May 3, 2012 | 07:11 AM
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300E a couple 1994 w124wagon E320 Wagon/,1971MGB Track/Rally, MG Midget Autocross ,2000 E320 wagon.
5cm

drop is a bunch. Negative camber issues,camber links needed. Rolled fenders. Maybe even fender spacing needed to drop it the low.
H/R or eibachs w210 kit and play around with pads to fine tune.
Camber eccentrics front and K-mac camber bushings for the rear.
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Old May 3, 2012 | 07:27 AM
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Damn! That much issues for only a 5cm drop
Might consider going for a set that lowers 40/40 then, is that easier on the car?

Holy f*ck, didn't know there were such a project to make the W210 driveable when dropped to the ground...
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Old May 4, 2012 | 10:30 AM
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Got ahold of some 18inch wheels now, ET is 35. Might use some spacer if I'm not satisfied. Swapped the original 16 inch wheels for them so this went smooth, just need a few new tires :P

Not entirely convinced on the wheels yet, here's a pic:



Anyone tried these on a wagon? Ü
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Old May 4, 2012 | 12:21 PM
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does your wagon have the self leveling suspension? if so lowering the rear is not as complicated from what I understand https://mbworld.org/forums/e-class-w...uspension.html
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Old May 4, 2012 | 03:11 PM
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That I am not sure of, how can I check that?
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Old May 5, 2012 | 02:24 PM
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Just shooting in the dark here, but I believe it's running a little cold. About 80'C.

Is this the normal running temperature for this engine(220CDI) or should I swap to a new thermostat?
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Old May 5, 2012 | 08:57 PM
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Use the following with your 18 inch wheels:
H&R spring set from TireRack.com about 250$
KMac rear adjustable eccentrics for camber adjustment check price on Ebay. Otherwise inner edge of tire is gone in 8K miles or less
Bilstein Sport shocks, made shorter for dropped suspension, available from TireRack.com
all wagons in post 99' production came with self leveling rear suspension. Do not readjust rear self leveling as it will adjust itself within a few miles of driving new setup.
With 18s and ET35 you can go 18x8.5 inch wheel in front with up to 245-40-18 tire and no rub. Overall spring drop will be about 1.60 inch front. more than that and you might encounter rub issues. No fender roll is needed.
Use either 265 or 275-35-18 on rear on an 18x9.5 inch wide wheel or up to 265-35-18 on 8.5 inch wide rear wheel. If wheels are 18x8 inch all around and not staggered then use same size front and rear and go 235-40-18 all around.
Do not forget 4 wheel alignment after set up is installed and driven 20-50 miles for settling of new springs.
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Old May 6, 2012 | 01:23 AM
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Ej, thanks for sharing the know-how. What about an 01 wagon w 19"s? same springs?

Thanks
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Old May 8, 2012 | 02:38 PM
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Cheers for the info mate! Great to know how to make it right in the first place!
I got the car today, I'll post some pics later. Looking a bit sad atm :P
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Old May 8, 2012 | 04:50 PM
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Will a Pioneer 2-din player fit in my car? I've got a Commander at the moment but I'm missing the possibility to play music off my phone.

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Old May 10, 2012 | 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucs23
Ej, thanks for sharing the know-how. What about an 01 wagon w 19"s? same springs?

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As Oh Lord has stated before and I agree, I would not recommend 19s on the W210. The car was designed and suspension tuned for 16-17 inch wheels. With 19s you cannot get a tall enough tire to work without screwing up your geometry and throwing everything out of whack. There needs to be so much give in the tire for the suspension to work as originally designed. Going to 18s is the outside of the envelope on this suspension design. Having said that others have put 19s on but in my opinion they do not fit the look of the car and the suspension was never designed to handle and work with such a short tire. You would be compromising alot in suspension geometrics and performance. If you must do it and I understand that, then go to TireRack.com and check for the proper tire aspect ratios to run with 19s and keep your speedo calibrated.

As a foot note to my above post you are buying only the front Bilstein Sport shocks and keeping the original self leveling set up entirely intact.
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Will a Pioneer 2-din player fit in my car? I've got a Commander at the moment but I'm missing the possibility to play music off my phone.

You are on the wrong thread with your question. Check the thread in the index as that has been addressed many times and with different possible options. It will give you more choices to view. Hope that helps.
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Old May 10, 2012 | 03:37 PM
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Wink Thanks a bunch

Ej thanks for taking the time. Unfortunatelly I'm hell bent on the 19's as the bulky wagon body just requires me to. I've seen a wagon runing on 20s around town and I wonder how they got away wi it because the same reasons you mentioned before. My tire dealer assured me (buy back warranty) that with 30s and 35s tires It would keep my warning lights off. I do not want to mess with the rear suspension.
Is there a way of manually or electronically controlling the ride height?

Have you published more pics of your avatar? Love to see more of the white wagon.

Thanks again.

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Old May 10, 2012 | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucs23

Have you published more pics of your avatar? Love to see more of the white wagon.

Thanks again.
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I wanna go 19 aswell, but the money say "nay" so I'll probably end up with the 18s I posted earlier.
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Old May 10, 2012 | 07:56 PM
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Location?

Where are you located? My 19"s tires were not any more expensive than the 18"s I was going to buy.
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