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Old Apr 10, 2004 | 11:31 AM
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bad idea to install xenons into...

regular hagolen housing on a 1998 sclass or any mercedes with reflector housing? my service advisor has told me that the housing on the xenon equipped cars believe it or not are the same as the non xenon housings as both have textured surfaces and the only difference is one will have xenon bulbs and ballast?

i ask this question because i have read that in reflector based xenon installs, the light output is not that great and causes a noticable glare due to the way the xenon bulb will react to the reflectors.

anyone who has installed xenons into their mercedes with reflector halogen headlamps... do you have a noticable glare assoicated with them?
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Old Apr 10, 2004 | 10:48 PM
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i had installed a aftermarket hid kit into my headlights with no problem, it helped me see better at night, like the whole road, it just might suck for other people at night...oh well
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Old Apr 10, 2004 | 11:02 PM
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Using halogen housings will definitely cause light to scatter and glare right into oncoming drivers. While blinding other motorists may not matter to you, aftermarket xenon upgrades are now illegal for highway use, and not having an OEM or at least a correct setup will definitely make you more likely to get pulled over.

Before I upgraded to OEM Euro xenons, I had a Hella upgrade kit in my halogen lights. I got pulled over within a week. And that was before HID upgrades were outlawed...
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Old Apr 11, 2004 | 01:08 AM
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I've retro'd my halogen housings with some D2S bulbs with an H7 base glued to them.

The results are outstanding. I opted to try the retrofit mainly because the headlamps I have are in perfect shape and I wanted to see clearly at night. The fact that the xenons have a sweet color output was in my decision but not the main deciding factor.

I have stock Philips 4200K or so bulbs. I haven't had problems with these lamps at all. I've had others tell me they look like the stock xenons that are the read deal. I've been flashed every so often. But I'm sure others with proper xenon headlamps with the proper housings have been flashed as well just because some people don't like them and stare directly into the light. I've read the Philips auto lighting forums and there have been some odd issues with people complaining over non-sense.

If it makes any difference if there is a retrofit to be done, supposedly the H7 housings are the best. Their reflector designs closest resemble those of xenon-based reflectors. Hence the service advisor stating that they may be the same, except the the bulb mounting.
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Old Apr 11, 2004 | 02:37 AM
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Can you let me know where did you get the after market HID kit, how much did you pay, and was it straight plug and play ? Or do you have to reprogram the computer ?. Do you have any error message on the display panel regarding the light ?

How do you like it ? I'm looking at the Philips HID kid on eBay right now.
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i had installed a aftermarket hid kit into my headlights with no problem, it helped me see better at night, like the whole road, it just might suck for other people at night...oh well
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Old Apr 11, 2004 | 11:56 AM
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Originally posted by alexbenz
i had installed a aftermarket hid kit into my headlights with no problem, it helped me see better at night, like the whole road, it just might suck for other people at night...oh well
could you please take pictures of where you have the xenon ballast mounted, and how the whole install looks? thanks in advance!
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Old Apr 11, 2004 | 12:31 PM
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I got a set of the plug and play's for my E430 and the light output is great. I've never been flashed, in more than a year of driving, and the light is focused where it should be focused. There have been no issues with the computer accepting them as stock since I didn't get a bulb indicator warning from swap. I have the stock Xenon's in my E55 and the light from the aftermarket xenon bulbs in the stock E430 halogen ballast is better. No regrets, good luck!
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Old Apr 11, 2004 | 04:43 PM
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i am installing the w211 projectors along with a 8000k hid kit in the next couple days, i will post pics as soon as i can, but from my last kiti had to change the fuse and everything was okay.......
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Old Apr 11, 2004 | 10:41 PM
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Originally posted by alexbenz
i am installing the w211 projectors along with a 8000k hid kit in the next couple days, i will post pics as soon as i can, but from my last kiti had to change the fuse and everything was okay.......
Good Stuff Alex, can't wait to see the projectors on your ride!
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Old Apr 11, 2004 | 11:27 PM
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i saw a little of how it would look and it's nice, just need some projector or clear fogs
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Old Apr 11, 2004 | 11:30 PM
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Originally posted by alexbenz
i saw a little of how it would look and it's nice, just need some projector or clear fogs
HID fogs! I've got the local hook-up if you go that route.
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Old Apr 11, 2004 | 11:51 PM
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i have the kit but just need new housing, any ideas
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Old Apr 12, 2004 | 12:21 AM
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Originally posted by BlownV8
I got a set of the plug and play's for my E430 and the light output is great. I've never been flashed, in more than a year of driving, and the light is focused where it should be focused. There have been no issues with the computer accepting them as stock since I didn't get a bulb indicator warning from swap. I have the stock Xenon's in my E55 and the light from the aftermarket xenon bulbs in the stock E430 halogen ballast is better. No regrets, good luck!
was you plug and play kit aftermarket, or just the whole housing with the xenon ballast and bulbs in already?

got any pictures?
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Old Apr 12, 2004 | 02:22 AM
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Old Apr 12, 2004 | 07:16 PM
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could you please tell me how you wired up you ballast? did you just take the postive and negative wires from the headlight (yellowish and brownish wire) and connect them with the postive and negative wires from the ballast?

thanks in advance!
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Old Apr 12, 2004 | 09:58 PM
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"could you please tell me how you wired up you ballast? did you just take the postive and negative wires from the headlight (yellowish and brownish wire) and connect them with the postive and negative wires from the ballast?"

Yes, everything pluged in and there was no need to even splice the wires. I went with an 8000K Phillips kit.
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hi alexbenz,
Do you install the Clear Headlight (W211 style) and the philips 8000k HID to your car yet?

actually I am trying to install the w211 style headlight to my W210 too but recently I found out that the after market projection headlight is not DOT Aprroved.
I found two sellers who selling this projector headlight but one is claiming his headlight is made in germany(IN PRO) and the other claiming his is made in taiwan. When i looked at the picture, this two headlights look the same, nothing difference at all. the seller also said the headlight is not dot approved.
Do you think this headlight is legal? and what will happen if you install the after market xenon on it, do you think you will get pull over by the police?
any way, do you have any pictures of your new headlight?
thanks..
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Old Apr 14, 2004 | 09:37 PM
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Originally posted by ernestng82
hi alexbenz,
Do you install the Clear Headlight (W211 style) and the philips 8000k HID to your car yet?

actually I am trying to install the w211 style headlight to my W210 too but recently I found out that the after market projection headlight is not DOT Aprroved.
I found two sellers who selling this projector headlight but one is claiming his headlight is made in germany(IN PRO) and the other claiming his is made in taiwan. When i looked at the picture, this two headlights look the same, nothing difference at all. the seller also said the headlight is not dot approved.
Do you think this headlight is legal? and what will happen if you install the after market xenon on it, do you think you will get pull over by the police?
any way, do you have any pictures of your new headlight?
thanks..
I'm not sure if they are illegal where you are but the In-pro lights are made in Taiwan for sure, along with a lot of the other stuff In-pro sells (e.g. chrome trimmings) - I found the guys who exports them to In-Pro. As for whether the HID's will work on the projectors, we'll have to wait for Alex.....I'm guessing the projector lenses were never designed for the HID's and may have some rather undersirable effects.......over to you Alex

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Old Apr 14, 2004 | 11:40 PM
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Originally posted by ernestng82
hi alexbenz,
Do you install the Clear Headlight (W211 style) and the philips 8000k HID to your car yet?

actually I am trying to install the w211 style headlight to my W210 too but recently I found out that the after market projection headlight is not DOT Aprroved.
I found two sellers who selling this projector headlight but one is claiming his headlight is made in germany(IN PRO) and the other claiming his is made in taiwan. When i looked at the picture, this two headlights look the same, nothing difference at all. the seller also said the headlight is not dot approved.
Do you think this headlight is legal? and what will happen if you install the after market xenon on it, do you think you will get pull over by the police?
any way, do you have any pictures of your new headlight?
thanks..
Hit me up if you want to see how the W211 projectors look w/ Hella 8K kit...I'm in the Porter Ranch area, since we're neighbors. I've been pulled over by our local valley law enforcements twice since the 5 months I've had this setup...there has been no issues/violation with regard to the HID projectors and HID fogs...my friendly neighbor is a retired Sherrif captain, he provides me the proper decorum w/ the men in black. Also, I've seen the (In Pro) DEPO HID "prototype"...looks nice but don't expect it to be release in the US for awhile as the halogen sales lag.
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Old Apr 15, 2004 | 12:15 AM
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Those guys prob. won't know any better anyways.....will just think they're a new kind of light But if they're out to get ya, they can think of any excuse and you can't win........like at the recent Sth vs Nth meet....so I heard....sad. Check this out if you haven't already:

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Hi Richard,
i have some question regarding the projector headlight and the HID kits.
did you got pulled over twice because of the HID and the headlight or because you are speeding?
since i go to school at CSUN. You know, many police around CSUN and they like to give ticket. i don't want to give the police chance to find an excuse to give me a ticket.
what brand of the projector headlight do you got? mind to tell me where do you bought it? i try to shop around to get cheaper price for my headlight. Any way, i just bought 6000k philips HID kits from ebay. do you get error message when you install your headlight?
thanks for your help richard..
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Originally posted by ernestng82
Hi Richard,
i have some question regarding the projector headlight and the HID kits.
did you got pulled over twice because of the HID and the headlight or because you are speeding?
since i go to school at CSUN. You know, many police around CSUN and they like to give ticket. i don't want to give the police chance to find an excuse to give me a ticket.
what brand of the projector headlight do you got? mind to tell me where do you bought it? i try to shop around to get cheaper price for my headlight. Any way, i just bought 6000k philips HID kits from ebay. do you get error message when you install your headlight?
thanks for your help richard..
Both minor infractions were due to tinted windows & no legal front license plate...CSUN campus police are notorious for pulling over tricked-out cars, so I hear from friends & cousins that school there so be aware! I purchased the projectors through AP Sportline, the owner is a good friend so my cost was below $350.00..funny how I've seen the prices shoot up. There are aftermarket HID kits specifically for MB & Bimmers that can bypass the defective lamp message, I know of a local shop that stocks the H7s & H3 (for fogs)...if needed I can send you his info.

Good Luck
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Old Apr 16, 2004 | 12:20 AM
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Hi Richard,
I am interested to buy the projectors headlight, mind to tell where I can order it? do your friend still selling this headlight?
you are right, the price for this headlight is shoot up.
any way, i am also interested with the xenon H7s that can bypass the defective lamp message. please send me the info..
thanks richard..
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Old Apr 16, 2004 | 12:24 AM
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The price of the headlight is dropping fast here
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hi Whitey,
how much is the price of the projector headlight? and mind to tell me the website?
thanks..
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