glojo

Hi everyone,
I have deliberately left out the year features of the models because the US year lives in a different time zone to everyone else

What I am after is the list of features that disappeared from the E-class in approximately August 2004. Puddle lights, charcoal filter switching etc. I have carried out a quick search but have failed miserably although I know it is out there somewhere.

Would this date represent a 2005 model in US talk?

Thanks for any help

John

benzmodz

If the C Class has a charcoal filter why wouldnt the E class have it ?

Most of the changes appear to be in the cluster. Due to the number of silly complaints there are now fewer default cluster functions.

glojo

Your reply is confusing. What cluster are you on about?

I am NOT referring to any type of E-class that has NOT been released I am merely refering to the 2004/2005 real date models

John

w212

i think Distronic, SBC Hold, SBC Stop, Easy Entry, Parameter Steering ..

more to come ..

HELL ONA HARLEY

Easy entry (seats) were removed and don't forget the drive dynamic seats too...... Got to say, the drive dynamic seats are an awesome feature. Glad I have them.....

glojo

I have to be very careful on what I accept because hte items that are listed by both your very good self are still available on European 211's.

SBC Hold is still there, but I think the Hold has been removed. Parameter steering is still a basic feature on larger versions 320CDI and above. SBC will of course shortly be going.

Distronic is still available on all 211's

Dynamic seats... Still an option.

I have asked about Easy Entrance\Exit

I am 100% certain the list is available on this excellent forum, but I blowed if I can find it.

Many thanks for the contributions so far.

John

w212

here's a list of all availabe options for w211(euro edition) i got from my delar:


RHD Right hand drive version
SP Standard paintwork of your choice
MP Metallic paintwork of your choice
MD Designo metallic
MV Designo varicolor/mystic
MC Designo chromaflair
FU Fabrik upholstery of your choice
13X Twin leather (leather/man-made leather upholstery combination)
83X Leather upholstery of your choice
84X Single tone nappa leather (in conj w/ 954)
LDS Single tone designo leather uph - only in combination w/ 954, 955, 873 or 401 and 293
LDT Two-tone designe leather uph - only in combinatio w/ 954, 955 873 or 401 and 293
R66 Run-flat tyres - only in conj. w/ 633, 640 or 674; not in conj. w/ 450, 645, 669, 679; code 477 is part of package
U18 Automatic child seat recognition
W60 Designo burl walnut trim - only in combination with code 954
W66 Designo maple trim umbra grain - only in combi w/ 954 or 955 & LU, NL, LDS, LDT
W67 Designo trim cinnamora red-brown matt - only in combi w/ 954 or 955 & LU, NL, LDS, LDT
W68 Designo trim poplar brown - only in combi w/ 954 or 955 & LU, NL, LDS, LDT
Y80 Designo leather, extended specification - in conj w/ NL or LDS, LDT and code 540
Y84 Roof linings in designo alcantara pebble beige - only in combi w/ 954 or 955 & 413 & 414
Y87 Roof linings in designo alcantara etna grey - only in combi w/ 954 or 955 & 413 or 414
Y88 Roof linings in designo alcantara orion grey - only in combi w/ 954 or 955 & 413 or 414
Y95 Steering wheel in leather/designo wood
Y96 Two-tone designo leather steering wheel & designo leather shift/selector lever

213 Parameter steering
219 DISTRONIC proximity control - in combi with code 423
220 Parktronic system ( PTS )
228 Auxiliary heater (only for LHD) - incl remote control
231 Integral garage door opener in interior mirror
241 Front seat left, elec. Adjustable with memory feature (for RHD, in conj w/ 275)
242 Front seat right, elec. Adjustable with memory feature (for LHD, in conj w/ 275)
248 Rear seats with integrated child seat - leather
249 Automatically dimming interior and exterior mirrors (w/ 955, 954 incl.)
273 Pre-installation for mobile phone (wiring, loudspeaker and aerial for telephone)
275 Memory package
280 Leather steering wheel and leather shift lever - with 954 or 955 included
282 Ski back - in conj w/ 287, not in combi w/ 861
287 Through-loading facility
289 Wood / leather steering wheel and shift lever (only w/ 954, 955; not w/ W66, W67, W68, 428 or 443)
293 Sidebags and belt tensioners in rear
297 Sunblinds for the left and right rear doors, manual
301 Ashtray with cigarette lighter in front in place of stowage compartment
309 Cup holder
386 Pre-installation for mobile phone with universal interface (UHI)
388 Mobile phone with universal UHI interface & mobile phone holder
390 Linguatronic voice control system - English
401 Luxury front seats, heated and ventilated - in conj w/ leather or nappa leather
404 Multi-contour seat, front left
405 Multi-contour seat, front right
413 Panoramic glass roof electric - not in conj w/ 414
414 Glass tilting/sliding sunroof, electric - not in conj w/ 413
427 7-G-TRONIC 7-speed automatic transmission
428 Steering wheel gearshift buttons - in conj w/ code 280 or Y96; not w/ code 289 or 443
433 Multi-contour dynamic driving seat, left - in combi w/ 275, not w/ 405
434 Multi-contour dynamic driving seat, right - in combi w/ 275, not w/ 405
443 Multi-function steering wheel, heated - in conj w/ 280, 289 or Y96
461 Instrument with mileage display and English inscription
475 Tyre pressure control system
481 Underbody protection
482 Suspension for higher ground clearance - not in combination w/ 486 or 489
485 Comfort suspension - no in conj w/ 486 & 489 (w/ Classic & Elegance incl)
486 Sports suspensin - not in conj w/ 485 & 489
489 Airmatic DC (semi-active air suspension) - not in combination w/ 485 & 486
500 Electrically folding exterior mirrors, left and right
524 Paint protection for shipment
525 Audio 50 APS with CD-navigation system (w/ integral radio and CC, CD running gear)
526 COMAND APS without navigation system - w/ integral radio and DVD running gear
527 COMAND APS with DVD navigation system - w/ integral radio and DVD drive
540 Electric sunblind for rear window
543 Sun visors, extending, fold-away, with illuminated mirror - w/ Code 413 incl
550 Trailer coupling - manually folding - for LHD vehicles only
551 Anti-theft alarm system w/ anti-tow-away protection
573 ISOFIX child seat anchorage points in the rear
581 Automatic climate control, 4-zone, THERMOTRONIC
596 Tinted glass and infrared-reflecting glass all round
600 Headlamp cleaning system - w/ 954, 614, 615, 616 or 618 incl
613 Headlamps - for RHD
614 Bi-xenon headlamps w/ headlamp cleaning system - for LHD (w/ 954 incl)
615 Bi-xenon headlamps w/ Active Cornering Headlamp System, headlamp cleaning system & headlamp range adjustment (for LHD)
616 Bi-xenon headlamps w/ Active Cornering Headlamp System, headlamp cleaning system & headlamp range adjustment (for RHD) - in combi Classic or 955
618 Bi-xenon headlamps w/ headlamp cleaning system - for RHD (w/ 954 incl)
623 Gulf states version
633 5-spoke light-alloy wheels - in conj w/ 954 and 486 or 489
640 13-hole light-alloy wheels - in conj w/ 955 and 489 or 486
643 7-hole light-alloy wheels, set of 4, 7, 5J x 16 - only w/ Classic
645 M+S winter tyres set of 4
668 Freight packaging
672 5-twin spoke light-alloy wheels - only w/ Elegance or Avantgarde
674 5-twin-spoke light-alloy wheels, set of 4, 8.5J x 17 ET 38, size 245/45 R 17 tyres
682 Fire extinguisher installed
687 Type plate with model year
690 Collapsible spare wheel (minispare, black)
790 18" AMG light-alloy wheels - in conj w/ 954 or 955 and 486 or 489
806 Technical modifications
810 harman / kardon LOGIC7 surround sound system - in conj w/ 525, 526 or 527
816 Remote control for COMAND or COMAND APS - only in combi with code 861
819 CD changer behind control panel in centre console
860 TV tuner for analogue TV receiption - in combination w/ 526 or 527
861 TV screen in the rear - in conj. With 526 or 527 & 816 & 380 or 382, not with 282
872 Electrically heated rear seats - in conj w/ 873 or 401 and leather or leather Nappa
873 Heated front seats - part of the package with code 401
875 Heated screen wash system
881 Remote boot locking
882 Interior motion sensor - in conj w/ 551
884 Auxiliary boot lid lock
889 Keyless GO
915 Fuel tank with increased capacity - incl with 954
947 Pennant holder and staff on the left
948 Pennant holder and staff on the right
952 Sports package - in conj with 955
952A Sports Package - in conj with 954
953 Classic version
954 Avantgarde version
955 Elegance version
984 COC paper
986 Identification plate
987 Battery-circuit breaker
989 Identification label under windshield

glojo

Thank you very much indeed for posting that very informative list, and what a pain in the proverbial I am.

The list is something I would expect our Prime Minister to come out with, and I am NOT having a go at you.

I appreciate immensely the time and effort you have taken.

Let me explain where I am coming from.

Someone I know has just taken delivery of a new 211. It has folding mirrors... Just like your list shows.

BUT....

You cannot set them to fold once you have got out of the vehicle! That feature has been removed from European vehicles.

Your excellent list is right to say the vehicle still has folding mirrors, but they do not do what a 2004 model can do. (I hope I am explaining myself)

The lights in the base of the external mirrors (NOT the indicators) are they still there?

European\UK COMAND to the best of my knowledge has always had navigation as the only choice, only US vehicles have this option

Thermotronic is now a cut down version as is SBC

This is an interesting, if confusing topic and sadly, one I find interesting. The reason I have asked though is not morbid fascination. Someone has asked me what has been removed and I have lost the list that I once had.

Thank you very much indeed for what you have done, I appreciate it.

Very kind regards,
John

HELL ONA HARLEY

And here I thought you were doing comparative shopping for another car....

w212

maybe its just a software update .. maybe it can be enabled through star diagnose, am sure steve got the answer

lights ? do u have a pic ?

i heared SBC will be replaced with hydraulic brakes and keep some of its functionalities .. hopefully my beloved SBC H/S

heres a detailed list of all options available for all E models including prices. its pdf file, maybe u will find it useful.
http://www2.mercedes-benz.co.uk/cont...0W211%20PL.pdf

jangy

Mine is a late build '05 and I have the easy entry / exit seats and steering wheel. The dynamic seats are still an option as well..


As for the charcoal, the only drop is the option to turn it OFF. The only change is that the rest feature is no longer on the E.

Yes, I do also have the puddle lights under the mirrors.

HELL ONA HARLEY

May be so in the e55 not so on any other E....




These were dropped in the later part of 04s early 05s.... If you have them then count your your lucky stars....

benzmodz

Like i said .... you can code these things back into the car. Starting with the cluster coding.

HELL ONA HARLEY

So how can you "code" airbags in the seats for the drive dynamic feature when there not present and puddle lights also.... or am I missing something????

benzmodz

If you dont have the hardware then you dont need the coding. Puddle lights dont require coding instead they required lamps and a short cable. Its like $15 at most.

I assume you do have dynamic seats ? They can be added if you ask MBenzNL. If the airbag is not present then someone decided you dont need it. Other than that .... I can code it. I may give an error !

But if you do have memory seats and you want some options coded then some of those missing menu options can be activated.

glojo

The 'Folding Mirrors when Parking' is I believe a do-able task if you have access to Star Diagnostic equipment. It certainly begs the question WHY blank it out as an owner option.

I'm with Harley on the other omissions. Puddle lights are gone, but please do not read to much into this as there is still one set of these lights on each door. W212 has very kindly posted that very extensive list and the least I can do is take a picture of the mirror. Please bear with me on this because it will take some organising. (Because of my condition )

This quest has certainly backfired as I thought I had kept a copy of this interesting information.

Oh and yes the hydraulic system will I believe have the options that we have grown used to and hopefully the brakes will be as efficient. It will also have individual fog lights come on as you turn corners which I believe is in line with our ugly runt of a brother the CLS

Thanks everyone for the information

REST
Charcoal Filter switching
Puddles Lights
????
????

John
A beautiful cool, sunny morning in Torquay

MBenzNL

the puddle lights in the mirrors were already taken out a long while ago...together with the removal of these puddle lights mercedes started to use different door control modules in which the TWO PINS for the puddle lights are missing (eventhough the DCM itself STILL has the coding for it that can be activated).

The 2006 models no longer come with isolation material on the inside of the doorpanels...

The 2006 models do not have a clip on the backside of the HK badge anymore...MB saved 0.01 cent on that clip and just bend the 2 pins that go through the speaker grating

The (US spec) 2005/2006 models had quite some coding taken out of the instrument cluster...depending on model (211 - 219) and exact build date it differs per car but some of the previously available menus that were taken out are:
- changing from CELSIUS to FAHRENHEIT
- changing from AM/PM to 24H display
- easy entry for the seat (steering column is still there)
- limitted opening of the trunkcloser
- auto folding mirror feature when locking the car
...and some other basic menus that I already forgot about...

The climate control unit was changed a while ago as well - plenty of info on that on this forum...

the distronic setup was changed a while ago (somewhen during 2004)...
the parktronic displays were changed somewhen in 2004 (the newer displays have one additional LED on the inside)...

...and so on...

greetingz,

glojo

As usual the knight arrives on his silver charger.

Thanks very much indeed for your multiple words of wisdom for which I am extremely grateful.

Regards,
John

Still a sunny morning in Torquay

Boost&Cubes

I know what SBC is, but what is SBC Hold and SBC Stop ?
Also, what is Parameter Steering ?

FYI - I am a W211 USA owner.

glojo

Hi,
It is a couple of excellent options removed at the request of MBUSA

SBC Hold is where we simply give the footbrake a quick jab and this will then stop the car from rolling. Ideal if you are on any type of slope. You can take your foot completely off the pedal and the vehicle will not move until you press the throttle.

SBC Stop
Not used anywhere near as often and not as popular. It has now been removed on European vehicles. You set this when in very slow moving traffic and when you take your foot off the throttle the vehicle comes to a comfortable stop. Hence there is no need to apply the footbrake. This option automatically disconnects above a certain speed.

If you want I can copy out the full description of how each option works, but I have to have the keyboard resting on my chest and then type with one finger.

John
a sunny lunch time in Torquay

S65_AMG

What have they done to thermotronic?

glojo

My language was a bit strong and perhaps I should apologise. Here is a picture of the control layout, I have not forgotten W212's request but I am a bit poorly at present (number one son scanned the manual)



As can be seen there is a switch which can activate or deactivate the charcoal filter on the earlier models. It has simply been removed on newer versions. (Mine is a January 2004 build) and as can be seen is a 320CDI Estate. We can have every option that is available to any of the E-class range and we did indeed go daft with the specification.

John

a nice afternoon in sunny Torquay

calum

I seem to remember two more items from that old list:

o shelf in glove compartment

o pull-strap on fold-down rear armrest

Spartan

I was talking to the Merc rep and he told me they took out the seat movement on the easy entry because they were sued by someone who got out of the car and the kid in the back got his legs squeezed. I said squeezed, not cut.

It seems lawyers have far more power then common sense.

Anywho....

For all intents and purposes, that should be a software fix. Since the seats memory function is not deleted then it makes sense that the option is still buried there. When I go in for my service, I wll try to find out if I can get it re-installed.

I will let you guys know.

Spartan

Is there someway to acees the software?