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Old Nov 18, 2009 | 10:35 AM
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Arvindm, In your original post, you mention that you need to get your headlights adjusted. Why do you need to have them adjusted if everything fit in the original light sockets? I am really looking at making this investment. My stock lights suck.

I would really like to see some pictures if you can. You add the pictures below this posting screen. Click on the button for manage attachments. I have posted an example.

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Thanks for your interest Ray. I got a couple of photos that might help you. The headlights needed to be aimed properly after changing over to HID bulbs. The kit fits perfectly but you still have to adjust the height and aim it correctly to avoid glare to oncoming traffic.

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Old Nov 28, 2009 | 02:06 AM
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Arvindm,

I purchase the MTEC kit on eBay. I started by pulling the light on the passengers side. This was extremely hard to get out and get un-plugged. I was wondering which wire from the kit did you plug into the car headlight harness? I notice that one side of the plug has two wires and the other side of the plug has only one. Which is positive and which is negative?

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Old Nov 28, 2009 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by rsmith7
Arvindm,

I purchase the MTEC kit on eBay. I started by pulling the light on the passengers side. This was extremely hard to get out and get un-plugged. I was wondering which wire from the kit did you plug into the car headlight harness? I notice that one side of the plug has two wires and the other side of the plug has only one. Which is positive and which is negative?

Thanks,

Ray
Hi Ray
What model and what year is your car? I presume it is 2007 E 350. The MTEC kit comes with two sets of wires. The one that is already attatched to the Ballast(Two round black wires ) is the high voltage wire that connects to the HID bulb. The other one which has a plastic sheath around is the one that connects to your car headlight power socket.This is the power supply to the ballast. it actually has two wires within. Red is positive and black is negative or ground terminal. You have to thread the open wires first through the rubber grommet that is attatched to the wires coming from the HID bulb and attatch the metal tips. Then you have to push the metal tips into the pink/red socket that comes with the kit. This socket will plug into the headlight wire socket of your car. Note that this will remain within the headlight housing and will come out through the rubber grommet and the other end will plug into the ballast. You have to drill a 1" hole in the dust cap to fit the rubber grommet on the dust cap. This will allow the wires to and fro from the headlight housing to the ballast without allowing the dust to enter the headlight housing. The high voltage wires will go from the ballast through the rubber grommet to the HID bulbs. After you have all the connections are in place (Make sure the ignition is off or even better the battery is disconnected) fix the HID bulbs into the headlight housing socket, replace the dust cap, make sure everything is snug.The drivers side headlight is a bit tricky due to lack of space to work. You have to dismount the reservoir next to it , move it a little bit across after you remove the screw holding it. Be careul not to drop any parts into the engine compartment-this can be a real pain to retrieve with your hands. Also be very careful while you are installing the hid bulbs to not touch the bulbs. The retainer clip that is provided should be positioned correctly and hold it firm while fitting the bulb. if it dislodges and falls into the headlight housing it will be very hard to retrieve. You may have to remove the headlight housing if that happens which involves removing the front bumper! If you are not sure what you are doing please take it a aftermarket installer who can do this for a small fee. It usually takes them 15-20 min if they have done a few. I took everything out to relace the bulbs with 5000k bulbs and it took me less than 30 min to re do it.I hope this helps.
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Old Dec 3, 2009 | 07:34 PM
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I want to do this to my 07' E350. I know ap lace that sells 35w kits and 55w kits, I'd like to get a 55w kit. But he's telling me I need a special extra box that's $50 to get them to work for my Merc, and it doesn't matter if it's 35w or 55w. Huh??
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Old Dec 3, 2009 | 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by MasterMoparSB
I want to do this to my 07' E350. I know ap lace that sells 35w kits and 55w kits, I'd like to get a 55w kit. But he's telling me I need a special extra box that's $50 to get them to work for my Merc, and it doesn't matter if it's 35w or 55w. Huh??
I dont have much experience with the 55w kit. As far as I am concerned, the 35w kit works just fine. The HID bulbs are three times brighter than the halogen bubs at 35 watts and i am not sure you are going to get that much more light by connecting it to a 55 watt ballast. It may cause you more problems by overheating the bulbs and the wires. I would stick with the 35 watts, 4500k or 6000k HID bulbs.
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Old Dec 3, 2009 | 08:45 PM
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I dont have much experience with the 55w kit. As far as I am concerned, the 35w kit works just fine. The HID bulbs are three times brighter than the halogen bubs at 35 watts and i am not sure you are going to get that much more light by connecting it to a 55 watt ballast. It may cause you more problems by overheating the bulbs and the wires. I would stick with the 35 watts, 4500k or 6000k HID bulbs.
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Yea good call..I will be buying these:

http://gothidxenon.com/index.php?mai...roducts_id=123
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 09:42 AM
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Yea good call..I will be buying these:

http://gothidxenon.com/index.php?mai...roducts_id=123
Make sure you have the metal clips that hold the HID bulbs securely to the headlight housing. If you dont have these included in the kit, the HID bulbs will not fit the Mercedes headlight housing well!

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Old Dec 7, 2009 | 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by arvindm
I dont have much experience with the 55w kit. As far as I am concerned, the 35w kit works just fine. The HID bulbs are three times brighter than the halogen bubs at 35 watts and i am not sure you are going to get that much more light by connecting it to a 55 watt ballast. It may cause you more problems by overheating the bulbs and the wires. I would stick with the 35 watts, 4500k or 6000k HID bulbs.
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I use to think the same until I bought a 55w. If you think the 35w is good you'll be amazed with the 55w.. I have a 6k 55w on my E
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 08:00 AM
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Good day guys ! My friend has w211 E320, year 2003, i want buy him fog xenon lights and both headlight lamps, which H is there ?
cause i know only European version of H...it is for both headlights H7 and for H1 - is there a diff between American w211 and European in lights or i can take same kit for him ? H7/H7/H1 ?
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Old Dec 15, 2009 | 04:23 AM
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Hey guys

First of all thanks to the health services chap for taking the time to take photos and share knowledge.
I know how much extra it takes to write up etc as i have done a few for a toyota starlet

Ok well i have an e500 02 (japanese assembled)

here is my dilema, i am attacking the head light high beam and this is what i found



complete original light wth the plug holder (plastic bit)

another couple of shots but now with the bulb removed and hte holder exposed.






So it doesnt look like -
http://www.lifeandhealthplans.com/images/DSC07741.JPG

Am i supposed to be drilling this holder so that it can hold the unit in place ? and if i do then i have to cut the rubber bung that is supplied with the hid kit and work out a way to reseal the head light unit.

If i have to do that then i would probably want a spare set incase i have to put it back to standard, would you know if these are easily attainable ?

After solving this i think i will be ready to try make it work but i was also offered an 'error canceller' which also says capacitor on it which i assume is the same as your capacitor modification but just something offered as a kit from them.


My question with this is it is definitely supposed to be before the balast ?
The guy was telling me to use it after the balast inbetween the bulb and balast.

thanks for any help
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Old Dec 15, 2009 | 10:03 AM
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Hey guys

First of all thanks to the health services chap for taking the time to take photos and share knowledge.
I know how much extra it takes to write up etc as i have done a few for a toyota starlet

Ok well i have an e500 02 (japanese assembled)

here is my dilema, i am attacking the head light high beam and this is what i found



complete original light wth the plug holder (plastic bit)

another couple of shots but now with the bulb removed and hte holder exposed.






So it doesnt look like -
http://www.lifeandhealthplans.com/images/DSC07741.JPG

Am i supposed to be drilling this holder so that it can hold the unit in place ? and if i do then i have to cut the rubber bung that is supplied with the hid kit and work out a way to reseal the head light unit.

If i have to do that then i would probably want a spare set incase i have to put it back to standard, would you know if these are easily attainable ?

After solving this i think i will be ready to try make it work but i was also offered an 'error canceller' which also says capacitor on it which i assume is the same as your capacitor modification but just something offered as a kit from them.


My question with this is it is definitely supposed to be before the balast ?
The guy was telling me to use it after the balast inbetween the bulb and balast.

thanks for any help
Hi

Its generally not a good idea to put HID lights in the high beam as you will not be using it for majority of the time.It is illegal to use high beam in city traffic! HID Bulbs take a few seconds to light up, hence it is not recommended for flashing. The best way to get HID lights for high and low beams is the factory Bi xenon headlights which is way too expensive. My suggestion is to leave the high beam alone and do the HID for low beam and maybe the fog lights. Do not drill into the original sockets as you will not be able to put the original bulbs back without purchasing new sets of sockets from the dealer.

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Old Dec 15, 2009 | 03:33 PM
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hey bud
I get what your saying and it does make sense now why it is not hid from factory. I was dong it to match the low beams which to me look like they were factory fitted hids.
The city lghts/park light wedge bulb is yellow and so is the high beam bulb.

So i could just change the wedge bulb to an led type and the high beam to a look a like hid i suppose. fog light is not yellow but maybe i can try swap the kit for a h11 kit or just resell the kit.
Is there any point changing the factory hid system ?
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Old Dec 16, 2009 | 10:29 AM
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hey bud
I get what your saying and it does make sense now why it is not hid from factory. I was dong it to match the low beams which to me look like they were factory fitted hids.
The city lghts/park light wedge bulb is yellow and so is the high beam bulb.

So i could just change the wedge bulb to an led type and the high beam to a look a like hid i suppose. fog light is not yellow but maybe i can try swap the kit for a h11 kit or just resell the kit.
Is there any point changing the factory hid system ?
The factory HID lights are generally better than the aftermarket ones. I would not mess with it. The one in Mercedes is pretty complicated if it has the self levelling HID lights. Try the HID on fog lights instead of the high beams. The golden yellow spectrum has better luminence(brighter) and fog penetration than the blue or purple lights. Try to stick with 3000k if you want better visibility in foggy conditions or 4300k Bulbs if you just want it to look white. Higher than 5000k is not recommended for fogs as it causes too much glare.
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Old Dec 19, 2009 | 09:33 PM
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Thanks for your interest Ray. I got a couple of photos that might help you. The headlights needed to be aimed properly after changing over to HID bulbs. The kit fits perfectly but you still have to adjust the height and aim it correctly to avoid glare to oncoming traffic.

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Hi

I took a couple of photos after the HID lights were installed and properly aimed. I hope this helps
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Old Jan 9, 2010 | 01:50 PM
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So I went through 5 ballasts, but now I'm good. Yes, that's FIVE balasts, two sets and one other one (guy kept exchanging). The car was blowing them like nothing. The first couple of minutes they would work then they wouldn't come on anymore and the car would say it has a broken bulb.
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Old Jan 9, 2010 | 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by MasterMoparSB
So I went through 5 ballasts, but now I'm good. Yes, that's FIVE balasts, two sets and one other one (guy kept exchanging). The car was blowing them like nothing. The first couple of minutes they would work then they wouldn't come on anymore and the car would say it has a broken bulb.
MasterMoparSB - Please tell us the manufacture of your kit, so other do not make the same mistake. I would have to guess that the manufacture has a problem making a quality ballasts.

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Old Jan 10, 2010 | 01:30 AM
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MasterMoparSB - Please tell us the manufacture of your kit, so other do not make the same mistake. I would have to guess that the manufacture has a problem making a quality ballasts.

Ray
Actually, they make very high end stuff, made in germany. I kept installing the "CANBUS" ballasts that are specifically made for Audi/VW/BMW/Mercedes, and they kept burning. The seller said "lets try the older ballast for the german cars", we used that and they are 100% for weeks now.

Afterwards he said he won't be selling those other ballasts to Merc drivers haha. He's installed them on VW and BMWs though, no problems. So I guess they weren't ok for ours!
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Old Apr 28, 2010 | 06:47 PM
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Sweet write up! Got my kit at DDM tuning with the Error code eliminator kit. will post pics soon

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Old Apr 28, 2010 | 09:32 PM
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Sweet write up! Got my kit at DDM tuning with the Error code eliminator kit. will post pics soon


Wow super cheap...I'm getting HIDs for the foglights now. 9006s right?
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Old Apr 28, 2010 | 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by MasterMoparSB
...I'm getting HIDs for the foglights now. 9006s right?
Manual for my '07 says the fogs are an H1.
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Old Apr 28, 2010 | 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by MasterMoparSB
Wow super cheap...I'm getting HIDs for the foglights now. 9006s right?
This is for 2004 e320
Low beam headlamp: H7
High beam headlamp: H7
Fog/Driving light: 9006

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Old Apr 29, 2010 | 10:54 AM
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Manual for my '07 says the fogs are an H1.
That's why I ask...hmmm

I guess I gotta go under there. Maybe H1s are on the AMG facia and 9006 on normal ones?
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Old May 2, 2010 | 01:14 PM
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Has anyone done this by taking the Headlights out or taking the bumper off?
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Old May 2, 2010 | 03:10 PM
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Has anyone done this by taking the Headlights out or taking the bumper off?
Has anyone done what?

If you are referring to HID headlights, many have done it without removing the bumper or headlights. I believe that you have to remove the bumper in order to remove the headlight assembly.

If you are installing HID for the fog lights, I believe you must remove the protective shield underneath the front of the car. I do not have any experience with the fog lamps.
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Old May 25, 2010 | 08:45 PM
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Has anyone done what?...If you are installing HID for the fog lights, I believe you must remove the protective shield underneath the front of the car...
True...
I believe there are 6 or 7 hex head screws holding it up, and can be taken off easily without being on ramps or a lift - if you have a goose-neck extension for your screw gun / screwdriver. Also have to crank the wheels to the side to get your head down and under the bumper.
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