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"Brake - Visit Workshop" message = stop light switch = $10 part / 10 minute Easy DIY
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As I explained to you in my PM answer to your question: this message is a generic message and can be triggered by different underplaying issues. Why guessing and replacing parts which don't need to be replaced when it could be as simple as a quick readout with Star Diagnosis. It will tell what's wrong. Bring them a 6 pack and a pack of salty pretzels and they will do it for free most likely.
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turned out to be lack of brake fluid to the front left caliper-used a vacuum hand pump, got fluid to the caliper, everything is fine now. No warning lights, etc. Checked with dealer here, thought SBC unit might be the cause. They informed me that SBC warranty had already been done on car(before I purchased it with 38K miles on it) and I could pay 300 to have them do a diagnostic on car plus parts. If it tuned out to be SBC unit-all work would be covered. I solved problem myself for $40-I can see now why so many people on this site work on their own cars-if MB service at dealers wasn't so damn expensive, I would have never entertained working on my car at all. And parts-don't even get me started on that-I know MB cars are nice, but do you have to be a millionaire to have them serviced? I have already saved over $400 on parts and service by doing it myself-I'll only use the dealer as a last possible resort for anything-parts or service.
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So I bit the bullet and took my E500 to the dealer to have it diagnosed. This after replacing the brake light switch but to no avail. The dealer told me there was nothing wrong with the SBC and just re-programmed it to remove the error message. It's been a couple days and the error message hasn't reappeared since.
So what could've caused the error message to appear in the first place? A bug in the SBC software?
So what could've caused the error message to appear in the first place? A bug in the SBC software?
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So I bit the bullet and took my E500 to the dealer to have it diagnosed. This after replacing the brake light switch but to no avail. The dealer told me there was nothing wrong with the SBC and just re-programmed it to remove the error message. It's been a couple days and the error message hasn't reappeared since.
So what could've caused the error message to appear in the first place? A bug in the SBC software?
So what could've caused the error message to appear in the first place? A bug in the SBC software?
What you should have done was telling your SA to get a printout from the mechanic when he read out the error message. It's no secret and you would have known the answer to your question. We won't be able to answer it since we weren't there looking at the mechanic's laptop screen while he ran the quick test in DAS.
And he didn't re-program anything. He hit 2 simple buttons, turned the ignition off after about 12 seconds and turned the ignition back on and the error messages were all erased in your car's different control modules. Now that's how it's been done nowadays
Sir, we got your car washed and cleaned as a complimentary service. The register is over there. Your car will be out here shortly. Your bill is going to be $140 for a quick 5 minute check! Thank you for your business. See you again sooner than you think! Haha!!!
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Anyway, can I erase the error messages myself? What are the two buttons I need to push?
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After a recent visit to the car wash. My brake light came on along with a loud beeping noise. I turned the car off and began to restart when I noticed would wouldn't gear into drive. I since manually put the car into drive and notice the car wouldn't get out of 1st gear. The speedometer is frozen as well. Someone help me understand what's going on.
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After a recent visit to the car wash. My brake light came on along with a loud beeping noise. I turned the car off and began to restart when I noticed would wouldn't gear into drive. I since manually put the car into drive and notice the car wouldn't get out of 1st gear. The speedometer is frozen as well. Someone help me understand what's going on.
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I also have the "Brake Service Visit Workshop" message. If it is the brake switch, would the brake lights still come on?
I bought the car used, is there a way I can find out the original in-service date to see if the SBC pump is still under warrantee?
I bought the car used, is there a way I can find out the original in-service date to see if the SBC pump is still under warrantee?
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Yes you can ask your dealerahip. They have a centralized database (VMI) showing all work done on a car even at different dealerships. Not showing work done by Indy shops not connected to MBUSA though.
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If you take it to the dealer, you would ask for the VMI which I believe stands for Vehicle Master Inquiry. Another way to tell would be to look up the carfax, it usually has the date of when the car was first registered which would tell you the in service date. For a 2005, it's borderline. You could also look at the date on the car which is on a plate in the driver's door, but that's just the date the car was made, not when the warranty started.
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I took some pictures of the end product can post those here if someone is interested in seeing them.
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"Brake - Visit Workshop" message : requires simple fix - replace brake light switch
When this was occurring, were the brake lights on car still working when pedal was depressed? Have a 2006 E350 and this same warning is appearing on my control system.
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Why in the world would you ask such a dumb question and wait until someone might tell you the answer when your car can give you the answer right there????
Back into a parking stall at a strip mall and press the brake pedal and watch in the mirror if you see the lights come on in the storefront window or ask someone to stand behind your car while you press the brake pedal! Old enough to drive a car, immature enough to disconnect the obvious!
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Brake lights were working as they should. If your brake lights are not working it is most likely the module or switch.
Good luck!
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He would still get a message in his cluster. SAMs are very sophisticated and detect these things through various checks. With these issues best thing is always to get the fault memories read out with a Star Diagnosis System. We can guess all day long when the solution lies most likely at his finger tips.
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He would still get a message in his cluster. SAMs are very sophisticated and detect these things through various checks. With these issues best thing is always to get the fault memories read out with a Star Diagnosis System. We can guess all day long when the solution lies most likely at his finger tips.
This thread has been helpfull thanks everyone
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I just replaced the switch but the message(in white letters) is still there. I will have to wait to get a diagnostic done, I just spent money on new struts this week.
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If you want to share with the boards where you are located, you might convince someone with Xentry/STAR DAS to read the codes for you. I would certainly do it for you if you were nearby. Otherwise, have the dealer read codes for you and request a printout. Don't let them tell you everything is fine and not tell you the codes. If they give you codes only come back here and someone will help you.
You might want to check this thread out
https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...reached-2.html
Replacing SBC is not cheap. The alternative is to consider various ways to reset the counters which at least to me creates one hell of a dilemma. On one hand, there is no doubt a significant margin was built in between the predicted life of the SBC unit and actual failure times. I can easily argue that resetting the unit back by 25% would most likely be safe. I have seen adds from repair shops in the UK advertising this as a service. On the other hand, I have read when SBC does fail, braking power is reduced by 90%. Then I think about the HP our cars are making and the notion of setting back the counter makes my butt pucker.
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Good write up and I can tell you it is safe to reset it. I have done so for customers before and no complaints at all. It is a myth that SBC could fail and you're out of a working brake system if it's been reset. You will always have a brake. The only think that could happen is that you don't have power braking but at this point you would have to go in and get it replaced anyway. And this CAN happen even if your SBC unit has NOT reached the threshold!
